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Criticize your favorite anime (Spoiler Warning!)
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I've been thinking about this for a while, watching so many verses threads, I just thought about how everyone is only criticizing the animes they dislike, and ignoring reasons listed against their favored anime, well it isn't everyone but is sure is a majority of people. Anyway if you could, list any criticisms or your own favorite anime in your own opinion? I'm most interested in 3 particular animes beginning in the letters O, B, and N. Anyway I guess it traditional for the thread starter to post the first example.

I can't really provide one, my current favorite is Death Note, and there is little criticisms I have for this anime. If anything I enjoyed the concept of the ending but I didn't like how it was carried out. I also thought some people were a little too susceptible to Light's trickery. Anyway I'd like to hear what CR has to criticize about their personal favorites. Anyway speak of the overall plot, pacing, animation, comedy, character personalities, ect...

Anyway here is a good example by ShenOkito


ShenOkito wrote:

Here:

A (Brief) Criticism of One of My Favorite Anime Series:

Series: Eflen Lied

Overall, from front to back, I found Elfen Lied to be one of the best series of Anime I have ever seen. From the opening theme to the end, I was entranced by the show and think it is one of the most "put together" Animes--- meaning that it was decent all around, from the ideas to the concepts to the music to the art.

That being said, there are some problems I had with Elfen Lied.

Perhaps the very first problem I had with the series was the voicing. In fact, I was tempted to stop watching after the third episode because whether I watched Dubed or Subed, the voices drove me insane. Luckily, this problem improved by the end of the series. Yet this is a minor problem. Let me continue to other problems.

As I progressed through the series, I became increasingly bothered by the Opening Theme. Most people are very familiar with the Opening of Elfen Lied: the song Lilium, accompanied with dazzling pictures that are-- in many ways-- disturbing. It was a powerful opening and also an upsetting one. However, my main problem was that the opening wasn't very original. Of course, it is unique. But I felt like I was watching plagiarized themes and ideas. I was listening to Biblical speeches scored before the paintings of Gustav Klimt. Together, the two were very fitting for the Anime, but I began think that the Anime, in theme and concept, is not particularly original.

I shall temporarily pause this argument in order to take up minor another. Not much need be said of the first seven minutes or so of Elfen Lied. We are all very familiar with it. And this intro was indeed powerful; it sent a message to the viewer right away. However, the first seven minutes is also discouraging and is inconsistent with the rest of the series. Why is it inconsistent? Notice, the next 320 minutes of the series contains significantly less bloodshed and violence. Why is it discouraging? I don't think anybody needs that explained.

Continuing where I left off, however....

My main problem is this lack of originality. The plot almost seems cliche, when you consider it closely-- especially among Anime. A poor, sweet, innocent, harmless child is completely and totally disparaged and belittled and--in a sense-- raped. Thus, he/she quickly turns from a naive little boy/girl into a confused killer. Instead of thinking things through rationally, this killer is rash and angry. This sounds like almost every killer. I hate to use Naruto as an example, but this even sounds almost like Gaara.
Moreover, Elfen Lied uses the typical female character found in every Anime-- soft and helpless. Both Nyuu and Yuka display these characteristics. Even Nana and Lucy (the killer side of Nyuu) display these characteristics-- despite being psychopathic killers, they both still have the ability to act sweet and caring when necessary, whether in from of Kohta or "Papa". I think Nyuu's existence, as a whole, provides evidence for this. Lucy's second personality is never explained and almost seems forced in order to intensify the plot.

I shall skip ahead, since I'm somewhat bored now...

"Overall, Elfen Lied is a very odd mixture of gratuitous gore, treacly sentimentality, and fan-service nudity. Nyuu (or Lucy) shifts from cringing innocent to articulate murderer and back for no apparent reason; Yuka nurtures a secret passion for Kohta, although he's her cousin. Inane, incoherent, and distasteful, Elfen Lied offers all the cliches that give Anime a bad name.

The End.

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thought they had a gay topic like this already
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Claymore-Bad ending
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faaang wrote:

Claymore-Bad ending


im sure they have a second season. there is so much unfinished.

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they didn't even complete the battle with priscilla (however its spelt)

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wolzen wrote:

thought they had a gay topic like this already


I searched and they don't have previous thread, and please lets be just a little bit more respective, I mean this isn't one of those versus thread, you can bring that attitude over there.
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Gurren Lagann killed the wrong person in the end. Nia should've lived & Shimon should've been the one to die. I really wanted to see a Shimon Jr. Thanks Gainax for killing my hopes & dreams for this ending. D:
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*spoiler-ish warning*

OMFG atm I'm watching Chrono Crusade and some idiot posted the spoiler of the ending...so yeh, now that I know that my fave couple and fave characters (Chrono x Rosette) are guna die...I'M PISSED OFF!!!!! Yeh sure, they said Rosettes life was guna be shorter, but I expected (well hoped) for a happy ending and hopefully Rosette and Chrono would find some loop-hole in their contract...but NNNOOO they have to die....THAT IS BLOODY MESSED UP!!!!!!! THAT TOTALLY RUINED THE ENDING!!!!!! I got so sad...it was such a let down, and don't you find that all the ood anime's are really short!!!?? Chrono Crusade is noly 24 episodes long, Fruits Baskets 26...FMA 52...IT SUCKS especially when the actual part of the anime is AMAZING but then they go and fuck up the ending.... For example....killing off your favourite characters!!! ARGH!!!!
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Favorite anime? Well I don't have a all time favorite so I'll just go with ones I REALLY REALLY loved.

Tantei Gakuen Q - They didn't concentrate much on Ryu's past or anything but about him and Pluto at all. They kind of made the story mysterious with Ryu and not actually concentrating on Ryu THAT much... The ending concentrated on him though! But you still don't learn much about him...

Death Note - What is with that dub? Ryuk REALLY sounds like a monster... well he is... Annoying fans? As to be expected... Passing on the the actual show, well they took out some parts from the manga and since the anime was so similar to the manga I was thinking it was going to be 100% loyal to the manga...

Prince of Tennis - Why do you make such a annoying character such as Sakuno seem like... she deserves the attention? I mean, the only advantage she has over the other Ryoma fan girls is that their coach is her grandmother. Gosh that annoys me so much...

Elfen Lied - They didn't explain much about Nyuu and how Lucy got her "other personality"... otherwise, O_O the awesomeness is blinding...

Well. I have more animes that I love equally as much as these and their all my favorites but I guess these are the only ones I can think of disses at the moment...
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anime_otaku-nerd wrote:

Favorite anime? Well I don't have a all time favorite so I'll just go with ones I REALLY REALLY loved.

Tantei Gakuen Q - They didn't concentrate much on Ryu's past or anything but about him and Pluto at all. They kind of made the story mysterious with Ryu and not actually concentrating on Ryu THAT much... The ending concentrated on him though! But you still don't learn much about him...

Death Note - What is with that dub? Ryuk REALLY sounds like a monster... well he is... Annoying fans? As to be expected... Passing on the the actual show, well they took out some parts from the manga and since the anime was so similar to the manga I was thinking it was going to be 100% loyal to the manga...

Prince of Tennis - Why do you make such a annoying character such as Sakuno seem like... she deserves the attention? I mean, the only advantage she has over the other Ryoma fan girls is that their coach is her grandmother. Gosh that annoys me so much...

Elfen Lied - They didn't explain much about Nyuu and how Lucy got her "other personality"... otherwise, O_O the awesomeness is blinding...

Well. I have more animes that I love equally as much as these and their all my favorites but I guess these are the only ones I can think of disses at the moment...


death note dub... dont tell me u watched it on YTV on friday
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Naruto, too many fillers
Bleach, not enough GOOD fights.
Detective Conan, can't find that many episodes online out there
Detective Academy Q, too short
Fruits Basket, same
Full metal panic, same
Full metal panic fummoffu, same
Full metal alchemist, same plus: depressing ending, death of major characters and incapacitation of major characters
Death note (not a favorite), 1 too many insane people killing good guys.
Bamboo blade, not coming out fast enough
.hack/sign, boring in places (too much talk, not enough action)
.hack/roots, probably same as above
Prince of tennis, Hmmm, can't think of anything at the moment.
Kenshin, can't think of anything again
D. Gray Man, too much sadness and dispair
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OMFG atm I'm watching Chrono Crusade and some idiot posted the spoiler of the ending...so yeh, now that I know that my fave couple and fave characters (Chrono x Rosette) are guna die...I'M PISSED OFF!!!!! Yeh sure, they said Rosettes life was guna be shorter, but I expected (well hoped) for a happy ending and hopefully Rosette and Chrono would find some loop-hole in their contract...but NNNOOO they have to die....THAT IS BLOODY MESSED UP!!!!!!! THAT TOTALLY RUINED THE ENDING!!!!!! I got so sad...it was such a let down, and don't you find that all the ood anime's are really short!!!?? Chrono Crusade is noly 24 episodes long, Fruits Baskets 26...FMA 52...IT SUCKS especially when the actual part of the anime is AMAZING but then they go and fuck up the ending.... For example....killing off your favourite characters!!! ARGH!!!!


*spoiler-ish warning*

actually the ending isn't that bad despite them both dying. It kind of suits it. Sorry someone spoilt it for you.

*spoiler-ish warning*

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mzheng489 wrote:

death note dub... dont tell me u watched it on YTV on friday


*cough* Not anymore, I was hoping they might have a good dub...watched 10 minutes. Screamed. Went back on to the computer and watched the REAL Death Note. ^-^
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gto-the ending was uhn-ish and definitely needs another season
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POSSIBLE SPOILERS, and some REAL SPOILERS ~~~~~~~~~~



HunterxHunter, hated the cliff hanger in the ending (ending of greed island)
DeathNote, Light had to die.....even though he's the bad one sorta..
Naruto, too many fillers
Bleach, dunno just gave up on this anime but i still somewhat watch it...
Code Geause... WTF i know 2nd season coming out but why do the bad guys ahve to be the smart and cool ones...
Eureka seven, ummm iono kinda sad?


blah i got way too much anime that are my favs and i wanna bad mouth them but im in a bad mood since i typed this -.-
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Evangelion is an absolutely fantastic anime I think, however, Anno could make alternative endings to further embellish the ideas presented in the anime. It would really give the story more dynamic, to know that it could lead to different outcomes.
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