Post Reply The Current States of Affairs of /AMP/
Posted 4/18/13 , edited 4/19/13
Rather than to post and detract from the miniature /AMP/ thread within this group, I have decided to create a second thread existing only to discuss the problems that have occurred as of late.

As many of you already know, /AMP/ is currently in a lock-down due to excessive conflicts between the user-base and the moderators of the thread. The list of problems can be viewed here. Now, this is NOT a thread asking for the removal of the one week lock-down but a discussion of how we are to prevent further problems.

Many of the problems at hand stem from the following behaviors:

Notable Conflicts:

a. Antagonism: During cases in which a post is reported for any reason (usually sexual connotations) , the reported user creates a fuss about the incident. Some users join in and side with said user. Consequently, a witch hunt is formed in an attempt to crucify those who report posts.


Proposed Remedies:

a. Await jurisdiction: If your post is reported, take note of it and await further action. In the case that the post is deleted, it's a warning to not publish more material of the same nature. In the event nothing occurs to that post, carry on with whatever you're doing. There is absolute no need to aggravate issues by starting a witch hunt or being enraged by it. Acts of vigilantism only perpetuates the problem. If you feel a mod's action was unfair, you may always message them and question their reasoning for the post deletion.



This is a thread in process and will take time to process.

Edits:

4/19/13: Moved Sexual Connotations to the post below.
Posted 4/18/13 , edited 4/19/13
Since this is one of the major problems occurring in /AMP/, it shall receive its own post: The problem is a difficult one to solve and will require expansive elaborations between the conflicting groups.

Notable Conflicts:

Sexual Connotations: Occasionally an user will post a sexually expletive poster that breaks the PG-13 standards of Crunchyroll. The rules on sexual connotation can be found in Rule 3 and its subsections which state the following:



2. Crunchyroll’s forums are PG-13. Please keep this in mind when selecting your avatar as well as sharing information in your profile, forum threads & groups.

3. Adult content of any kind has no place in the forums. This includes avatars, user profiles, photos, forum threads & groups.This content will be deleted and can result in account deletion as well.

Extended rules of Rule 3:


Proposed Remedies:

b. Self Control: Refrain yourself from posting any obscene material. While Crunchyroll currently has no exact definition of PG-13, I shall assume that the standards are located in the subsections of Rule 3. Utilize those standards set and see them as a guideline in interpreting what would fall under sexualization.

The wording of the rules at this point are vague and can be loosely interpreted but I am communicating with moderators to better define it. I take that the rule is mainly applied to images and not text.
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Posted 4/18/13 , edited 4/18/13
A - antagonism

- Instead of a random report why couldn't the sniper just PM the poster and ask them to spoiler the image or explain why it was offensive to them...as stated by MULTIPLE posters, we would have NO problem with this and we would alter the offending post....we are not unreasonable...we know that all people are different and have different levels of tolerance for all things. Civilized discussion would be preferable to random and indiscriminate sniping. (I do recall awhile ago all of certain peoples post were being reported regardless of content....G rated posts mind you).

a - Await jurisdiction

- This would be an ideal course of action...but...90% of the time we do not know which moderator removes our posts. I personally have had posts removed...no reason why. It would be a great help if, when the post is removed...the mod that deleted it, personally pm'd the offending user and explained precisely why the offending mot was removed. This would help us learn from mistakes, to better our technique...and isn't that what we all want? To better ourselves?

- A note on what I have observed....

All too often when a post is deleted there are similar or even worse posts around it...now I'm not saying that the worse posts are malicious or sexual in content...I'm saying that maybe more skin is showing or there is harsher language....than the one post that was deleted.

And on a personal note....

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PONIES?!?!

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Posted 4/18/13

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A - antagonism

- Instead of a random report why couldn't the sniper just PM the poster and ask them to spoiler the image or explain why it was offensive to them...as stated by MULTIPLE posters, we would have NO problem with this and we would alter the offending post....we are not unreasonable...we know that all people are different and have different levels of tolerance for all things. Civilized discussion would be preferable to random and indiscriminate sniping. (I do recall awhile ago all of certain peoples post were being reported regardless of content....G rated posts mind you).


I contemplated this as a solution but from observations, it does seem to be of any help in reducing problems. Users will find themselves to be in the right and argue against each rather than let an outsider do the decision. This proposed solution only seems to perpetuate the conflict. Another problem with private messaging is that sometimes people do not check their messages. There is also a time limit in which one can delete their post (one hour). There's also a chance that someone may post a sexually expletive image and head off to bed stagnating the problem (if using the PM method) instead of resolving it quickly. Yes, private messaging is a viable option but I think it might be better for users to have self restraint.


a - Await jurisdiction

- This would be an ideal course of action...but...90% of the time we do not know which moderator removes our posts. I personally have had posts removed...no reason why. It would be a great help if, when the post is removed...the mod that deleted it, personally pm'd the offending user and explained precisely why the offending mot was removed. This would help us learn from mistakes, to better our technique...and isn't that what we all want? To better ourselves?

- A note on what I have observed....

All too often when a post is deleted there are similar or even worse posts around it...now I'm not saying that the worse posts are malicious or sexual in content...I'm saying that maybe more skin is showing or there is harsher language....than the one post that was deleted.


The solution of these problems are still in the works. I'm making attempts to communicate with moderators and I am waiting for responses. From what I can tell, there is a major lack of communication between the moderators and users of /AMP/. If your post is removed by an unknown moderator, it'd be best to visit the Chat with the Mods! thread detailing your problems and messaging them the image that was reported.

As for the "worse" posts, that is a subjective matter so it's hard to talk of the subject. The "harsher language" part is also tricky due to the obscurity of the rules; I mentioned it above as to whether it dictates over images as well as text.



And on a personal note....

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PONIES?!?!


One can argue that it is not anime related. Personally, I'm against MLP since the influx of MLP posts sort of detracts from /AMP/. The moderators did allow it in small quantities but I've seen users who post it every other page. I intend to add this problem of non-related anime pictures onto the list but I'm still processing ideas.
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Posted 4/23/13
After being away for a few days I was a bit confused why I couldn't see the thread. Thanks for this topic.
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