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Kill or be Killed...which button would you press!?
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Posted 4/29/13 , edited 4/29/13
be I'd press the be button. Because you can't kill what be.

The forum topic states: "You are only given two options" it says nothing about me not being able to create alternative options.

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i would press the most colorful of the two
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MorteIncaratum wrote:

i would press the most colorful of the two


Even if the other was more shiny?
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gah hard decision....well then the shiniest and most colorful
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This thread bears a certain similarity to this famous scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0

It's baffling just how many people are willing to take at face value what a sadistic kidnapper would tell them. Bear in mind, this is a person who (as presented) no doubt engineered the given scenario for their own amusement. You have no reason to actually trust that the red button will kill the other person, and it is safest to assume that you're being lied to about just who it will kill. A genre savvy person would press the blue button, because again, it's very likely that pushing the red button will only execute the person who pushed it. An easy way to see it would be like playing Russian Roulette, with a semi-auto pistol in your hand, and it's pointed at your head...whoever pulls the trigger first, loses. The scenario as presented here is an enticement to press the red button!

As for the scenario in the video, and an explanation for those who might need a spoiler:

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Spazticus wrote:

This thread bears a certain similarity to this famous scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0

It's baffling just how many people are willing to take at face value what a sadistic kidnapper would tell them. Bear in mind, this is a person who (as presented) no doubt engineered the given scenario for their own amusement. You have no reason to actually trust that the red button will kill the other person, and it is safest to assume that you're being lied to about just who it will kill. A genre savvy person would press the blue button, because again, it's very likely that pushing the red button will only execute the person who pushed it. An easy way to see it would be like playing Russian Roulette, with a semi-auto pistol in your hand, and it's pointed at your head...whoever pulls the trigger first, loses. The scenario as presented here is an enticement to press the red button!


You're assuming there are only two options available. There were two options "given." There are an infinite amount of options available to you, just not given.
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You're assuming there are only two options available. There were two options "given." There are an infinite amount of options available to you, just not given.

I can agree with that, to a point. I'm also inclined to believe that while yes, there are only two options given, the majority of the possible outcomes in this scenario are designed to end in your death, no matter what option is chosen. In this case, waiting out the full five minutes (for example) just enables the blue button to be pushed, so that's not even a third option - it's still just the passive one. It is no less a valid choice, of course.
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Spazticus wrote:

This thread bears a certain similarity to this famous scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0

It's baffling just how many people are willing to take at face value what a sadistic kidnapper would tell them. Bear in mind, this is a person who (as presented) no doubt engineered the given scenario for their own amusement. You have no reason to actually trust that the red button will kill the other person, and it is safest to assume that you're being lied to about just who it will kill. A genre savvy person would press the blue button, because again, it's very likely that pushing the red button will only execute the person who pushed it. An easy way to see it would be like playing Russian Roulette, with a semi-auto pistol in your hand, and it's pointed at your head...whoever pulls the trigger first, loses. The scenario as presented here is an enticement to press the red button!

As for the scenario in the video, and an explanation for those who might need a spoiler:



Obviously if it were a real life situation things would be different. The answer I gave is pertaining to the given situation with it being strictly how it is said to be. As in, you push the red button and the other person dies, resulting in exactly that. I see this question as being without lies or other options available. Two buttons. Life and death. It makes it a rather lame question to allow all the many variables that could occur in real life.
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Spazticus wrote:


spacebat wrote:
You're assuming there are only two options available. There were two options "given." There are an infinite amount of options available to you, just not given.

I can agree with that, to a point. I'm also inclined to believe that while yes, there are only two options given, the majority of the possible outcomes in this scenario are designed to end in your death, no matter what option is chosen. In this case, waiting out the full five minutes (for example) just enables the blue button to be pushed, so that's not even a third option - it's still just the passive one. It is no less a valid choice, of course.


I don't bother attempting to decipher the intent of a hypothetical. I'm much more interested in the constraints attributed to a hypothetical as then you can begin to deconstruct and manipulate a hypothetical in a manner favorable to you.

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This is exactly why I hate psychologists, they would justify support of a totalitarian form of government just so this sort of human experimentation could become reality.
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Purple button
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Red button sadly. But it's because it looks shiny.
Posted 4/29/13 , edited 4/29/13
Lol I see some very cute answers as to how one could go around the only 2 choices given to you.
If your were actually in this situation with a doctor next to you with a needle full of poison...would you really choose
not to press any button at all? In such a case it is logical to assume that a refusal to play will end up as a involitary-volitary(if there is such a thing)death.
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marcel20 wrote:

Lol I see some very cute answers as to how one could go around the only 2 choices given to you.
If your were actually in this situation with a doctor next to you with a needle full of poison...would you really choose
not to press any button at all? In such a case it is logical to assume that a refusal to play will end up as a involitary-volitary(if ther is such a thing)death.


I'm enjoying this hypothetical. In this scenario I would ask the doctor to unstrap me from the chair and he would kindly help me leave the room. I wouldn't touch the needle full of poison and I would advise the doctor to be careful before I leave because there is a needle full of poison next to him.

You stated nothing about the doctor having any malicious intent so I've decided that he was there to help me. I'm not sure why you would put a poison needle next to me and the docotor. That's just dangerous.
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