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Post Reply Would you rather live in a fascist country or a socialist country?
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Socialism is a broad movement, which generally advocate for the worker's ownership of capital through various means. Fascism includes a Far-RIght political programme which consisted of Authoritarianism, restriction of rights, Nationalism, and Racism etc. to State-intervention Capitalism (something that most nations already have), whereas Socialism, in itself, is nothing more than an Economic system, which can fit any political ideology. it is true that it is generally a Left-Wing movement, that Socialism do generally fit with Democracy, and most Socialists generally insist on more democracy, rather than less, but Socialism can also encompass Far-Right ideology, authoritarianism, etc.

Thus, we are comparing two things, one the political programme of Fascism, with the Economic Theories of Socialism- and answer is obvious, they cannot be compared because while the Authoritarianism, the Racism, and Nationalism of Fascism is intolerable, there is no political dimension within Socialism to compare it to, and the comparison of the economics of Fascism, being sort of mainstream, with that of socialism would be a measure of mainstream economics with Socialist economics.
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A socialist one. Because I already DO live in a Welfare state and it is something that has positively saved my life.
I don't understand how anyone can claim it to be a bad thing.


Does your nation have Workplace Democracy?


I don't know. Why?
Posted 5/6/13

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I'd rather be set ablaze and burnt to pure bone before living in either a pure Socialist or Fascist country. Both are absolutely heinous, degrading systems that eviscerate any shred of humanity and dignity.


Tell that to Norway!

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I live in a semi socialist country and I love it. We have such socialist things as a fire department, police force, and universal health care.
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sophie-ann wrote:

I live in a semi socialist country and I love it. We have such socialist things as a fire department, police force, and universal health care.


No one likes Canadians you're all too polite.
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They are both just types of slavery.
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Well, though I'm a fan of neither I would prefer fascism over the two. Though socialism in itself isn't a bad thing, its when it becomes communism that things change, and its that change that pushes me more towards fascism.
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-Vega- wrote:

They are both just types of slavery.


Are you saying the american model is so much better?
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Posted 5/12/13

Hairbelly wrote:

I'd rather be set ablaze and burnt to pure bone before living in either a pure Socialist or Fascist country. Both are absolutely heinous, degrading systems that eviscerate any shred of humanity and dignity.


And yet the nordic countries, all of which are socialist, are constantly voted as the best places to live and have the highest standards of living in the world.

Seriously, talk about being ignorant...
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Wouldn't it be better to compare fascism with communism? Socialism seems more like something you would contrast with capitalism (TBH though, I've never researched the terms specifically, so this is just my initial reaction to this thread).
Posted 5/14/13

Dont_Mind_Me wrote:

I'd prefer a socialist country. I'm not one for nationalism and I prefer the idea of working towards a better society rather than working towards a stronger state.
What a thoroughly retarded question. I think one day you'll come soberly, but firmly to the conclusion this question is so absurd that asking it is shameful.

Socialist.
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I don't like either so I would reject both. Fascist for obvious reasons and socialism because it really isn't possible. All I've seen are failed attempts to socialize which lead to an oligarchy that runs society for the elite and the masses suffer.

For your question, I'd live in a socialist society. And then id it over the head with reality.
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I'd live in a socialist country only if I was the ruler, then I'd make all you insects worship me.
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Posted 5/19/13

Iainfixie wrote:


Hairbelly wrote:

I'd rather be set ablaze and burnt to pure bone before living in either a pure Socialist or Fascist country. Both are absolutely heinous, degrading systems that eviscerate any shred of humanity and dignity.


Tell that to Norway!




Despite what everyone tells you, Norway, along with all the Nordic countries, are Capitalist Nation, in that they do indeed have private enterprise, and the workers are not, in fact, the owners and controllers of the capital, here taken to mean the tools and means of producing as well as the money.
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Posted 5/19/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:


Hairbelly wrote:

I'd rather be set ablaze and burnt to pure bone before living in either a pure Socialist or Fascist country. Both are absolutely heinous, degrading systems that eviscerate any shred of humanity and dignity.


And yet the nordic countries, all of which are socialist, are constantly voted as the best places to live and have the highest standards of living in the world.

Seriously, talk about being ignorant...


Only, the Nordic Countries aren't Socialists- they are Capitalistic- they may practice a more humane form of Capitalism, but that private enterprise exist at the hand of private individuals in a hierarchial structure, in which a Capitalist owns the Capital in said enterprise, already marks these Nordic Countries as capitalist.
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