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Post Reply Iron Man 3 Sucked.....Could have been so much more
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I have to say that I had high expectations for Iron Man. I walked in to to the theater and watched the intro and I felt it had a great start. Two main objections are as follows: the Mandarin turns out to be some kind of joke hoax, and actor with a drug problem, and Pepper Potts kills the bad guy at the end. Now to state my qualms. The Mandarin is Iron Man's nemesis, A main ruthless and power hungry, he relies on arcane powers to achieve his ends, while Iron Man's abilities quantified by science. This makes the Mandarin the perfect foil for Tony Stark, who in contrast is all about what he can explain and see from an empirical perspective. The Mandarin makes him face an enemy that he cannot quantify, but is forced to face. Someone who can use magic and calls on forces Tony does not understand but has to face anyway. This creates a depth that is so great between the characters that now can never be seen on film. It would be like Joker turning out to be a fake villain and Two Face just decided too make him up just to throw Batman off the trail+ some lame plot device allows it to unfold as such. This is the main reason I cant stand what they have done, Joss Whedon was pretty upset with what they did with this last film.
Qualm two: Many of the epic portions, where traded for humor throughout the film, Stark spends the majority of the time without the suite even being on and many of the scene loose momentum in the serious department accordingly. Pepper Pots was yet again well played except that at the end she gets super powers and kills the bad dude. Another sub issue is that they take two of Iron Man's villains and put them together, the glowing burning dude...cant remember his name....in this film he invents the Mandarin too throw off everybody from his true aims...which where lame= increase the industrial war complex by basically controlling terrorism, and then convincing the private sector and governments to buy his super soldiers....we have heard this before. Did I manage to tell you that the Mandarin Does Not Have any POWERS?MIND BLOWN They take the time to show the rings on his hand and give him a great persona equal to Bane and then....surprise I am a junkie actor being paid to be a terrorist to throw off the real bad guy's movements...utterly lame. I mean all the pieces where there, they just failed to move them on the board properly, and that pretty much makes it even more upsetting. Now there is no direct villain to challenge Stark and his belief in science, no direct antithesis. I feel as though so much depth was lost and what makes me upset as well is they took the time to flesh out other villains and make them real and they treat the biggest baddest villain that Iron Man meats on an individuals scale and turns it into a joke for laughs, I mean the gravity of the film just disappears half way through. I have to say that if you see it and agree that something was lost, :::::::::::::Them to make it all worse Stark takes out the ARC Reactor and destroys ALL the suits what the crap. Potts and Stark end up together and that s the end........my opinion is stated and or if you disagree and think it was the best movie ever made, comment and lets have a discussion, because everybody got out of the theater and we where all literally talking on the sidewalk all upset about the turn of evens , complete strangers where agreeing with these problems.

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I agree. Iron Man's arch nemesis wasn't even given a chance in this movie.
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what i want to know is that is he done being iron man? i know it said at the end that tony stark will return but does that mean they are planning on scrapping iron man? The ending though was not what i expected but i enjoyed the movie. Oh and i'm an Eiffel 65 fan so hearing Blue at the start of the movie was amazing. Probably one of the best ways to start a movie. I know that they released that single "Blue" song back in 1999 and the plot in the movie started on December 1999. The same year that song was released and became a huge hit. Glad they choose that song :).
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I do have to comment on this forum post. I have to completely and 100% AGREE with you on EVERYTHING that you have stated. First of all, I was not that knowledgeable on the facts of The Mandarin. I just knew that he was supposed to be Tony Stark's greatest nemesis...kind of like The Joker is for Batman. I didn't know that he was supposed to have 10 rings that were supposed to give him powers or anything...if that was the case. Either way,...never happened.

But here are the parts that I especially did not agree with or appreciate in any way, shape, or form. HE DESTROYED HIS SUITS and had the Arc Reactor removed from his chest. Now, granted. There is one thing you have to consider. Rhodes who plays Iron Patriot in Iron Man 3 does not have an Arc Reactor in his chest but is still able to use the suit that he has, so I take it that Tony Stark still has the ability to be Iron Man if he needs to be again. But he destroyed all of his suits and basically made it seem like he is done being Iron Man. This not only lets down a lot of the consumers who have enjoyed the Iron Man movies, but it leaves a MASSIVE hole in the plot. In 2015, they are coming out with The Avengers 2! The makers of The Avengers 2 said in an interview that Iron Man will play a very important role in the movie. That they will be focusing a lot of energy and effort into Iron Man. Ummm....how? How are they supposed to when there are no suits left and I can't see Tony Stark destroying every suit of his just to go back and build another one from scratch. I'm thinking he must have left at least one down in the bunker while all the others flew out. I mean...come on. It's Tony Stark. He has to have a backup plan just in case something like that happened again that happened in The Avengers. Either way, this is what happens when the director is changed up suddenly after two successful movies. Jon Favreau directed Iron Mans 1 and 2. Shane Black stepped in to direct the third one.

One other thing that upset me about the movie is in all the trailers and advertisements for Iron Man 3, the main suit that they actually focused on was the Mark 42 suit. They made it seem SO AWESOME in the trailers and advertisements. It was the most top of the line, revolutionary suit in the entire movie. Yet, when you actually watch the movie, it's glitchy, faulty, has a lot of problems, and Tony Stark is out of the suit more than he is in the suit for most of the entire movie! Why? Because in the movie, the suit in only a prototype and has a lot of mechanical problems. In the destruction of Tony's house, the flight thrusters didn't ignite because it was faulty, so he ended up falling in the ocean. The suit drains power a lot faster than any of the others. There is a scene where he has the suit rigged to some wires and batteries in some kid's garage, and also hooked to a battery that Stark is holding in his hand with a positive and negative wire going into the chest plate area of the suit while Tony Stark is walking around inside The Mandarin's house trying to gather information. Just the slightest bang against any part of the suit will make it collapse and fall apart. Tony Stark hit it with a rod of some sort in the bedroom when it tried to attack Pepper because of Tony Stark's dream, and also fell apart when it hit the side of the building when it was coming to the rescue at the end of the movie. Heck, he chose to have it destroyed and destructed at the end of the movie with Aldrich Killian in the suit. The suit was a prototype so it had a lot of mechanical defects is what they were trying to get across in the film. HELLO!!! THE MARK 2 and 3 IN IRON MAN 1 WERE PROTOTYPES AS WELL AND THEY STILL WORKED LIKE A CHARM!!! EVEN THE SCRAP METAL SUIT IN THE CAVE IN IRON MAN 1 RAN BETTER THAN THAT PIECE OF S**T MARK 42 ARMOR!! After so many years of building 42 sets of armor, what are the odds that Tony Stark would build a faulty suit of armor, much less USE it in the movie before all the bugs are worked out in it? Really?

Another thing that upset me is that he was focused on using the Mark 42 suit throughout the entire movie....what time he was able to use it. Most of the time, he was simply carrying it around and trying to fix it...make it work. Okay...fair enough. At the end of the movie, you see 41 suits come together for the finale of the movie. You see about 41 suits that he used to defeat Aldrich and everybody at the final scene. My thought at that time was....if he had THAT many suits, why didn't he just use one of them, or some of them for that matter when he absolutely needed one during the movie instead of walking around waiting for the Mark 42 armor to recharge all the time? Especially if they were able to fly to where he was with the help of JARVIS.

This movie was not only bad, it was terrible. It was BEYOND terrible. It was god-awful. I hope they make an Iron Man 4. All I can say is that if they do, JON FAVREAU....here's a message for you!! DIRECT IT AND GET RID OF SHANE BLACK AS WELL AS THE SCRIPT WRITERS!! THEY ALL ARE MORONS!!! Let's hope that Star Trek Into Darkness and Superman Man of Steel can make up for an utter flop. Very bad writing, very bad directing, and very bad story all together.
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Posted 5/5/13
i'm not watch it yet :'(
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Posted 5/5/13
Save your money and wait until it comes out on DVD.
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Thanks for all your comments. I wont deny that this movie was entertaining, but my expectations where much higher because they used the Mandarin's name falsely when it had NO RELEVANCE to the film whatsoever . I did not go to see an entertaining film, that is the byproduct of a good movie, I went to see the furthering of the Marvel Universe, when very little of that actually happened and they disrespected one of the best villains for Stark, No really good hero is complete without a really bad villain. I is the very frame that shows the hero's fortitude and abilities. I am not even sure I am happy with the way AIM was introduced. Thoughts?
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I could only pin my hopes on the movies you mentioned, I dont know how many more times I can go to the theater and spend good money only to come out with a sense of....well frustrated anger. I am really looking forward to Star Trek, although Comberbach....dont know how to spell his name is featured prominently in the preview as a villain I have heard that he too is in a reduced capacity, maybe is some sort of crazy stupid trend, because he is a spectacular talent as attested by his roll in BBC's HOLMES. Thank you for flushing out more points that I thought about but failed to mention, it really rounds out the points being made about the disappointment of IRON MAN 3
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Another detail:::::NOT A SINGLE AMERICAN ROCK POWER BALLAD IN THE WHOLE MOVIE, Iron man 1/2 featured classic rock tunes that really added to the ego of Iron Man's character. Iron Man is a rock star in the hero world, his identity is known so there is a certain amount of swagger that comes from this type of style.
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From what it sounds like you have two main problems with the film: The Mandarin is nothing like his comic book counterpart and Tony Stark isn't Iron Man enough. For the first point, I've always felt that comic book movies should feel free to change the source material when necessary, so I didn't mind the Mandarin being just an actor. It was a good twist, and kind of funny. Thing is, we knew going into the film he wasn't going to be like he was in the comics, since he was being portrayed as an Islamic radical. The Mandarin wasn't an Islamic extremist in the comics, and there's no way they were going to give an Islamic radical magic powers. It's just too hokey.

As for the second point, the biggest asset to these films have never been Iron Man, but Robert Downey Jr. He fits the character of Tony Stark like a glove, so it only makes sense that the film should give him as much time to act as possible. In fact, much of the movie was about the more human side of Stark, with him suffering from anxiety attacks, PTSD and relationship issues. If you need more action, there are plenty other films coming out that cram it in at the expense of plot.
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zeno48 wrote:

what i want to know is that is he done being iron man?

He says at the end of the film that the one thing that will never change is that "I am Iron Man." He's definitely not done being a superhero.

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I don't understand why Stark was having anxiety attacks!! Had teaming up with the Avengers and saving the world caused them? I'm also confused as to how defeating the antagonist of the movie would relieve him of his said anxiety attacks. Special effects were top notch but I also feel the story could have been much much better.

*******SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!******

P.S. Stark destroying all of his Mark suites = most expensive fire works show ever...
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Joss Whedon manages to show all those human elements during Avengers, "WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THE SUITE: STARK: A GENIUS. BILLIONAIRE, PHILANTHROPIST" We always knew Tony was the true asset, He made Iron Man and sometimes he associates his identity with the suite, sometimes he hides behind its identity like a shield to avert his personal issues. This film strove to show what his intellect could do without the suite to demonstrate his cleverness on the street if you will. They have already shown us this in the first film. He made the first suite in a CAVE, in front of the BAD GUYS, and help create and perfect a new power source, so everything they tried to do we already know. I don't know why anybody would not be upset by the deletion of a villain. Doomsday, Darkside, Lex Luthor all of these characters and more are the one's who define everything Clark Kent/Superman is, his character, his emotions, personality are all demonstrated through conflict with these villains and the drive for justice and conflict in ideals and perceptions. The loss of any one of these characters mean you lose a facet of SUPERMAN. Everyone should understand this concept.
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Posted 5/6/13
I agree with everything you said....lol Most expensive fireworks ever
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Posted 5/7/13
For me it was nice but then they have a reason why they make that movie like that seem that Iron man will not having a part 4.
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