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Why can't us guys in the UK get the anime the Americans get
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hickey1992 wrote:
I am not saying that they don't try to get the licenses, I am merely saying that this is how some people feel about it and the explanation will probably not change that.

I personally could not care less that my premium does not get me everything on site since I will just go elsewhere when it doesn't.

Haha, that's exactly what I think as well. Many people explained this stuff to me, but it was meaningless. Will it stop me from pursuing illegal means? Nope. Will that make me guilty? I never felt guilty about using fansubs, they are awesome.

It's fun how in my country EVERYONE watches anime illegally and talk openly about it like it's no big deal at all(even people within the manga industry)...which it isn't, at least over here.
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I don't know why it's shocking that an American based company has ended up providing more services for Americans than they are able to for international customers. As far as I know, Crunchyroll tries as hard as they can to secure streaming rights for other countries, so I think it's silly to point fingers at the US customer base going "WHY DO YOU GET TO HAVE SOMETHING I CAN'T HAVE!?" It's rather petulant and counter-productive.
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I don't know why it's shocking that an American based company has ended up providing more services for Americans than they are able to for international customers. As far as I know, Crunchyroll tries as hard as they can to secure streaming rights for other countries, so I think it's silly to point fingers at the US customer base going "WHY DO YOU GET TO HAVE SOMETHING I CAN'T HAVE!?" It's rather petulant and counter-productive.


I am not going to make any kind of counter argument here.

I just wanted to point out how amazingly well your avi of Kyon facepalming fits what you just said.
Posted 5/3/13
u can't get the anime's "Americans" get but u UK boyz can get an American girl in a heart beat LOL
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Balzack wrote:

I don't know why it's shocking that an American based company has ended up providing more services for Americans than they are able to for international customers. As far as I know, Crunchyroll tries as hard as they can to secure streaming rights for other countries, so I think it's silly to point fingers at the US customer base going "WHY DO YOU GET TO HAVE SOMETHING I CAN'T HAVE!?" It's rather petulant and counter-productive.

Who says we are shocked? It makes perfect sense. It also motivates us to pirate more stuff.

Win-win.
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I think we're pretty spoiled that CR is doing so much legwork: I'm happy knowing I'm paying premium and therefore encouraging the situation to improve in the future. We're hardly missing out on anything in this season's lineup. Frankly, I'll pay my money here and still go watch the shows fansubbed sometimes because official translations are sucky and I like to understand the theme songs. Nevertheless, I'm happy knowing that the writers and producers of something I enjoy are getting their royalties from the CR subscription. I think the UK is doing much better than S. America and many other parts of Europe with the percentage of titles that are available to us.
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1. A lot of anime companies place regional time locks upon there shows.

2. Anime dubbing companies don’t think they would make much of a profit.

3. Because of 2 we end up having to get the dubbed DVDs from different countries, meaning that the quality can be hit or miss.

Subs will not always be fully on screen or out of time and in extreme cases the dvd will have glitches. (AKA panty and stocking)

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Europe is bigger than USA+Canada, belive it or not.
I'm sure there's a lot of people here who would pay to watch anime on CR, FUNI etc, so I doubt the licensors would have a lose.
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mvirgilio wrote:





hickey1992 wrote:

I don't even bother with UK releases anymore if the US have it too, because the UK stuff hardly ever gets any special features and they still expect me to pay the same price(or in many cases more.)for it.


Not always. Since we don't have Aniplex over here, Bakemonogatari will be much cheaper in the UK than in the US, for example.


Regional Pricing will say otherwise, that's why DVD's and Technologies and so on are marked up even when they don't have to be.

...That and the struggling UK market for anime, (madoka was a failing release here apparently), not that there's no one interested, MVM and Manga Entertainment UK are just miserable at PR and selling in general, and I can quote long time experianced specialist retailers on that.

...oh and also +20% VAT (making it clearly cheaper to import in bulk from a sales tax free state (and praying desperately that customs doesn't catch it, ripping apart the packaging, charging you the full VAT and a additional service charge for it... yeah been hit by that one before)


Madoka was a failing release because we got it months and months after the american version for a higher price, can you blame people for not buying it? When you offer a slower service (years or even more, we still dont have an official release version of steins;gate I can buy over here), at a higher price and offering no extra features than the pirates do you blame people? Hell, we cant even buy things like cowboy bebop over here, at all.
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Des85 wrote:

Europe is bigger than USA+Canada, belive it or not.
I'm sure there's a lot of people here who would pay to watch anime on CR, FUNI etc, so I doubt the licensors would have a lose.


Yes, but Europe is split into different licensing regions while the USA and Canada is basically one licensing region. (Hulu operates by the even narrower TV broadcast regions thus simulcasts on Hulu don't make it to Canada). Yes, if the European Union were one licensing region, the collective buying power would make it much more lucrative for licensors.

Regardless, I am confident that Crunchyroll has a goal of 100% coverage to the UK and usually when the UK doesn't get a simulcast, it is due to a local licensor or piece of crap official streamer(yes AoD is crap) gobbling up those rights. Kaze got Photo Kano, Snafu and Samurai Bride because they can offer home video, which is something that CR can't compete with at this stage.

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We use to get anime here in UK. From between 1998-2002/03 is when i remember alot of anime on the kids show, like Sailor Moon, Tenchi Muyo , Gundam Wing , Pokemon , Blue Submarine 6 etc.

But after awhile it just stopped but most of the harem and decent anime was on around 4am on the sci-fi channel.

They did try and make a dedicated anime channel, twice, but each time it failed, because they only had 4 shows on. So i think because it was limited not many people watched it and possibly because they couldn't get the license to show that much stuff. But im unsure.

But most anime we get is DVD form, just go to the dying HMV or online shops they have anime and alot of it. Also you got CrunchyRoll for under £10 a month
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They did try and make a dedicated anime channel, twice, but each time it failed, because they only had 4 shows on. So i think because it was limited not many people watched it and possibly because they couldn't get the license to show that much stuff. But im unsure.
OMG Anime Central!! I loved everything about that channel! Seriously: Wolf's Rain, Cowboy Bebop, Bleach...how did anime not go blazing in the UK after that?

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NitsuaAsuka wrote:
They did try and make a dedicated anime channel, twice, but each time it failed, because they only had 4 shows on. So i think because it was limited not many people watched it and possibly because they couldn't get the license to show that much stuff. But im unsure.
OMG Anime Central!! I loved everything about that channel! Seriously: Wolf's Rain, Cowboy Bebop, Bleach...how did anime not go blazing in the UK after that?




not sure it was a shame that the channel never really took off, it did do well for awhile then died V_V But I managed to get one of my step brothers to come onto CR :p
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not sure it was a shame that the channel never really took off, it did do well for awhile then died V_V But I managed to get one of my step brothers to come onto CR :p
Qudos to you! This thread has been funny in that it's brought all the UK folk out! Is there any hope of us mounting a minor takeover on CR (I know the answer to this already, but it's fun dreaming!)
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Forum tidying. Clearing out threads that have been inactive for six months or more.

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