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What kind of car would you use to Drift?
Posted 1/28/08

westco3894 wrote:
Honda Prelude body + S2000 chasis and engine = RWD Honda Prelude S
Yeah


oh they wanted to do that with a prelude and an NSX engine where i worked. They said that making the drivetrain rear-wheel and the welding to make the engine fit would be a pain in the arse. I don't know how they could afford to do it, its like a used hondas dealership and the actual dealership and new cars is across the road.

Still a neat project :]

I saw a vette engine in a miata but they had to push it back about 8-12 inchs cant remember which. You can google it though.

Posted 1/28/08

yangss14 wrote:
uhmm ok first of all are we talking about stock cars or what? cause this thread is confusing me with all this awd drifting nonsense..
i dont see how putting 50% on front and rear is a rwd.. those cars will never be as good as a true FR...now in d1 they modified it putting center lock diffs (asn the ew drift bible called it) in the front taking out the front wheel drive part and making it a rwd

cars that suck for drifting stock mentioned
GTR (SINCE ITS AN AWD) GT-S is the RWD form, same with the r32 (has to be gt-s)


I'd like to know your thoughts on the drifting ability of an A31 Cefiro.

Also, I don't disagree with what you said but the skyline R32 GT-R and GTS4 have ATTESA-ETS (Electronic Torque Split) which sets the drivetrain to AWD or RWD. Actually the A31 Cefiro has it aswell or so I'm told.

The Skyline R33 GT-R has the ATTESA-ETS PRO and the Skyline R35 GT-R ATTESA-ETS (special GTR Version)

So If I'm wrong about something here can you please explain to me what? I'm starting to get very confused.
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Posted 1/28/08

GreekCotan wrote:


yangss14 wrote:
uhmm ok first of all are we talking about stock cars or what? cause this thread is confusing me with all this awd drifting nonsense..
i dont see how putting 50% on front and rear is a rwd.. those cars will never be as good as a true FR...now in d1 they modified it putting center lock diffs (asn the ew drift bible called it) in the front taking out the front wheel drive part and making it a rwd

cars that suck for drifting stock mentioned
GTR (SINCE ITS AN AWD) GT-S is the RWD form, same with the r32 (has to be gt-s)


I'd like to know your thoughts on the drifting ability of an A31 Cefiro.

Also, I don't disagree with what you said but the skyline R32 GT-R and GTS4 have ATTESA-ETS (Electronic Torque Split) which sets the drivetrain to AWD or RWD. Actually the A31 Cefiro has it aswell or so I'm told.

The Skyline R33 GT-R has the ATTESA-ETS PRO and the Skyline R35 GT-R ATTESA-ETS (special GTR Version)

So If I'm wrong about something here can you please explain to me what? I'm starting to get very confused.


hmmm i cant really say much on the cefiro cause ive never drifted a cefiro... but crap if i was in japan id rock a 4 door anyday..haha

oh and yes...it does have the attesa..but your wrong on the rwd split... it only sends power to where it needs to go...like lets say your coming in to the apex (turn) and you start understeering the attesa would come into play and put the power to the rears but it doesnt make it a complete RWD, and also once you start oversteering (which i doubt you will) then it starts putting power to the front make sense??

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Posted 1/28/08
oh and i dont think a cefiro has attesa, iirc attesas only came in skylines...that is why its soo god like ^_^
Posted 1/28/08

yangss14 wrote:

oh and i dont think a cefiro has attesa, iirc attesas only came in skylines...that is why its soo god like ^_^


I was told it came in the A31 cefiro cause it was made in late 1990 just a year after the the skyline R32 GT-R Debuted, I didn't know it wasn't in cefiro but my friend says wikipedia says it does :]
Posted 1/28/08

yangss14 wrote:
hmmm i cant really say much on the cefiro cause ive never drifted a cefiro... but crap if i was in japan id rock a 4 door anyday..haha

oh and yes...it does have the attesa..but your wrong on the rwd split... it only sends power to where it needs to go...like lets say your coming in to the apex (turn) and you start understeering the attesa would come into play and put the power to the rears but it doesnt make it a complete RWD, and also once you start oversteering (which i doubt you will) then it starts putting power to the front make sense??



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ChinaMan110 wrote:

Honda: S2000, NSX
Nissan: Silvia S13, Silvia S14, Silvia S15, Skyline GT ER34 25GT, Skyline GT-R R33, R32, Sileighty, 180SX, Cefiro, Skyline GT350 (Infiniti G35), GT370(Inifinit G37)
Toyota: Corolla GT-S AE86 Trueno/Levin, Supra, Chaser, Soarer, Altezza, MR-S
Lexus: IS350
Matsuda: RX-7 FC3S, FD3S, RX-8.
Mitsubishi: EVO VIII, X, or X
Subaru: Impreza WRX STi


uhmm ok first of all are we talking about stock cars or what? cause this thread is confusing me with all this awd drifting nonsense..

is350 = awd
evo = awd
wrx = awd

i dont see how putting 50% on front and rear is a rwd.. those cars will never be as good as a true FR...now in d1 they modified it putting center lock diffs (as the new drift bible called it) in the front taking out the front wheel drive part and making it a rwd

cars that suck for drifting stock mentioned

s2000,GTR (SINCE ITS AN AWD) GT-S is the RWD form, same with the r32 (has to be gt-s)
evo, wrx, is350(i actually think the new is350 is coming rwd AND MANUAL!!)
and lexus/toyota is samething BTW i see you noticed that with the nissan (infinti)


honestly if you want a good beginners car that is goood to learn in the U.S. get a 240 (or silvia for you non us or wanna be jdm people) i have drifted a s2000, s13,s14, sileightys the same as the s13 so is the 180 (in the us its known as either s13 hatch or s13 coupe) 86 corolla, is300 (altezza), the soarer (but the sc400 *V8*) fc, rx8...and out of all i would have the say the 240 was easiest..i really liked the is300, felt very smooth and torque is awesome on the 2j but that costs money...

cheap
reliable (depending)
and a good car to drift is the 240


ummm if the ER34 25GT is such a bad car to drift with, then how do you explain Nomura Ken being one of D1 Grand Prix's top drifters in his big ER34 sedan?

and Toyota DO technically own and make Lexus(i DO in fact know that, don't need you to tell me), but on the production line, they're not the same. Maybe the OLD IS300 under the Lexus branch is the exact same thing as the Toyota Altezza 300. but not any more. I've checked the Japanese Toyota site and no more Altezza. it is offcially under the name of Lexus IS350. and the IS350 IS a FR car, it is now at least.

and the forum didn't ask me what i think is the best beginner drift car. it just asks me what would i drift in. so i listed it, so i'd appreciate it if you would respect it rather than calling it non sense. >_>

Note: only the 95-98 240SX (S14) are the Silvia S14, any pre 95 240SX (aka S13)are the 180SX's US counter.
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Posted 1/28/08

GreekCotan wrote:


yangss14 wrote:

oh and i dont think a cefiro has attesa, iirc attesas only came in skylines...that is why its soo god like ^_^


I was told it came in the A31 cefiro cause it was made in late 1990 just a year after the the skyline R32 GT-R Debuted, I didn't know it wasn't in cefiro but my friend says wikipedia says it does :]



hmmm ok i was wrong, cefiros DID come in awd but rarely and no they didnt have attesa...they had a hicas if thats what your saying and thats completely different from attesa
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ChinaMan110 wrote:


yangss14 wrote:


ChinaMan110 wrote:

Honda: S2000, NSX
Nissan: Silvia S13, Silvia S14, Silvia S15, Skyline GT ER34 25GT, Skyline GT-R R33, R32, Sileighty, 180SX, Cefiro, Skyline GT350 (Infiniti G35), GT370(Inifinit G37)
Toyota: Corolla GT-S AE86 Trueno/Levin, Supra, Chaser, Soarer, Altezza, MR-S
Lexus: IS350
Matsuda: RX-7 FC3S, FD3S, RX-8.
Mitsubishi: EVO VIII, X, or X
Subaru: Impreza WRX STi


uhmm ok first of all are we talking about stock cars or what? cause this thread is confusing me with all this awd drifting nonsense..

is350 = awd
evo = awd
wrx = awd

i dont see how putting 50% on front and rear is a rwd.. those cars will never be as good as a true FR...now in d1 they modified it putting center lock diffs (as the new drift bible called it) in the front taking out the front wheel drive part and making it a rwd

cars that suck for drifting stock mentioned

s2000,GTR (SINCE ITS AN AWD) GT-S is the RWD form, same with the r32 (has to be gt-s)
evo, wrx, is350(i actually think the new is350 is coming rwd AND MANUAL!!)
and lexus/toyota is samething BTW i see you noticed that with the nissan (infinti)


honestly if you want a good beginners car that is goood to learn in the U.S. get a 240 (or silvia for you non us or wanna be jdm people) i have drifted a s2000, s13,s14, sileightys the same as the s13 so is the 180 (in the us its known as either s13 hatch or s13 coupe) 86 corolla, is300 (altezza), the soarer (but the sc400 *V8*) fc, rx8...and out of all i would have the say the 240 was easiest..i really liked the is300, felt very smooth and torque is awesome on the 2j but that costs money...

cheap
reliable (depending)
and a good car to drift is the 240


ummm if the ER34 25GT is such a bad car to drift with, then how do you explain Nomura Ken being one of D1 Grand Prix's top drifters in his big ER34 sedan?

and yes, I DO in know that Nissan makes Infiniti, dat's why i put it in parenthesis, for those people who don't know. if you know then that's good for you. and Toyota DO technically own and make Lexus(i DO in fact know that, don't need you to tell me), but on the production line, they're not the same. Maybe the OLD IS35 under the Lexus branch is the exact same thing as the Toyota Altezza 300. but not any more. I've checked the Japanese Toyota site and no more Altezza. it is offcially under the name of Lexus IS350. and the IS350 IS a FR car.

and the forum didn't ask me what i think is the best beginner drift car. it just asks me what would i drift in. so i listed it, so i'd appreciate it if you would respect it rather than calling it non sense. >_>


ok first of all i meant to say gtr is not a drift car...only skyline that can drift are GT-S (RWD)
and the er34 25 gt is also known as the rb25det correct? and the rb25det is a rwd
what i meant to say up there was this

bad drift car:
skyline gtr (any gtr since its a awd) but a er34 25gt is a RWD sedan
older is350 (since the old is350 came awd auto ONLY) the new ones came manual and rwd
evo
wrx


(OH AND AS I LOOK AGAIN I NEVER SAID ER34 IS A BAD CAR READ!! AGAIN)
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Posted 1/28/08

yangss14 wrote:


ChinaMan110 wrote:


yangss14 wrote:


ChinaMan110 wrote:

Honda: S2000, NSX
Nissan: Silvia S13, Silvia S14, Silvia S15, Skyline GT ER34 25GT, Skyline GT-R R33, R32, Sileighty, 180SX, Cefiro, Skyline GT350 (Infiniti G35), GT370(Inifinit G37)
Toyota: Corolla GT-S AE86 Trueno/Levin, Supra, Chaser, Soarer, Altezza, MR-S
Lexus: IS350
Matsuda: RX-7 FC3S, FD3S, RX-8.
Mitsubishi: EVO VIII, X, or X
Subaru: Impreza WRX STi


uhmm ok first of all are we talking about stock cars or what? cause this thread is confusing me with all this awd drifting nonsense..

is350 = awd
evo = awd
wrx = awd

i dont see how putting 50% on front and rear is a rwd.. those cars will never be as good as a true FR...now in d1 they modified it putting center lock diffs (as the new drift bible called it) in the front taking out the front wheel drive part and making it a rwd

cars that suck for drifting stock mentioned

s2000,GTR (SINCE ITS AN AWD) GT-S is the RWD form, same with the r32 (has to be gt-s)
evo, wrx, is350(i actually think the new is350 is coming rwd AND MANUAL!!)
and lexus/toyota is samething BTW i see you noticed that with the nissan (infinti)


honestly if you want a good beginners car that is goood to learn in the U.S. get a 240 (or silvia for you non us or wanna be jdm people) i have drifted a s2000, s13,s14, sileightys the same as the s13 so is the 180 (in the us its known as either s13 hatch or s13 coupe) 86 corolla, is300 (altezza), the soarer (but the sc400 *V8*) fc, rx8...and out of all i would have the say the 240 was easiest..i really liked the is300, felt very smooth and torque is awesome on the 2j but that costs money...

cheap
reliable (depending)
and a good car to drift is the 240


ummm if the ER34 25GT is such a bad car to drift with, then how do you explain Nomura Ken being one of D1 Grand Prix's top drifters in his big ER34 sedan?

and yes, I DO in know that Nissan makes Infiniti, dat's why i put it in parenthesis, for those people who don't know. if you know then that's good for you. and Toyota DO technically own and make Lexus(i DO in fact know that, don't need you to tell me), but on the production line, they're not the same. Maybe the OLD IS35 under the Lexus branch is the exact same thing as the Toyota Altezza 300. but not any more. I've checked the Japanese Toyota site and no more Altezza. it is offcially under the name of Lexus IS350. and the IS350 IS a FR car.

and the forum didn't ask me what i think is the best beginner drift car. it just asks me what would i drift in. so i listed it, so i'd appreciate it if you would respect it rather than calling it non sense. >_>


ok first of all i meant to say gtr is not a drift car...only skyline that can drift are GT-S (RWD)
and the er34 25 gt is also known as the rb25det correct? and the rb25det is a rwd
what i meant to say up there was this

bad drift car:
skyline gtr (any gtr since its a awd) but a er34 25gt is a RWD sedan
older is350 (since the old is350 came awd auto ONLY) the new ones came manual and rwd
evo
wrx



ok that makes sense = ]
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I drift with my 1990 RX-7 FC3S In DMCC in Canada
Posted 1/28/08

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okay well it was RB20DE for GT and RB25DE for 25GT, GT-X, GT V-spec and RB25DET GT-T
I've got that..

RB26DETT is GT-R
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GreekCotan wrote:


yangss14 wrote:



wasn't the R34 powered by a neo rb20det engine that was developed by Volvo to be more evironmentally friendly?


uhhhh huh?

Posted 1/28/08

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okay re-read xP
yes It is, what is your point? =]

I was saving up for a skyline to use for drifting =[
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GreekCotan wrote:


yangss14 wrote:


okay re-read xP
yes It is, what is your point? =]

I was saving up for a skyline to use for drifting =[


whatt? im still confused at it...are you trying to ask me a question?? lololol

lol yah you can if you are in canada like yourself but for the people who are less fortunate (California to be exact) cant get cars like that...so we need to get a 240 or something and swap..etc etc

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