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Post Reply *Girls* Would you say anything to a male cross-dresser if you see one in public Ladies room?
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Posted 5/9/13

tinyd0t wrote:

Lol, or Japan or Thailand, they have ridiculously beautiful transgender people there! Thailand even have an airline that only uses transgender air hostess.


It's fascinating how little attraction has to do with a persons gender than it does our own hard-coded paradigm of what is or isn't sexually attractive, isn't it?

We're a lot more Bonobo than we would like to think.

A different discussion for another thread though.
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I don't have a problem with it, at all.
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My Horns are au naturale!


Yes, but the irony doesn't escape you that your a male-cow in a thread discussing cross-dressers and hot transgendered Asians?


It would only be ironic if I really were a cow. The horns are really but I am technically an unclassified meat popsicle.
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am used to uni sex bathrooms
plus i never use them because i hate people hiring me go XD

only time i freak if some one looks over the the door in on me
but TBH this 21st sensory you go with the flow XD as long there not flashing or showing what they got i don't cear
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Where should I start... first off you need to be educated on the system transgendered people in the UK have to go through, most of them don't have access to hormones until they are 18 so they undergo full male puberty which means that they get manly features and can't do anything about those manly features unless they spend a fortune on surgery (even then the results are hit and miss), some of them *might* be lucky enough to look really good but unfortunately the majority of them will just look like women with very manly features (lots of brow bossing, large nose, adams apple, facial hair, hairy body, broad shoulders, small upper lip, large jawbone, big hands/feet and a big rib cage)... but you can blame that on the government that says it's ok for transgendered people to hate their own bodies and live with being alienated by people like yourself :(.

Ugh so much unnecessary feels in this thread. Knew I shouldn't have clicked on it ¬_¬
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it's funny, I don't think us guys have this issue with bathroom privacy. I've seen a girl with down's syndrome walk into the men's bathroom while I was urinating. I just finished then zipped up and told her she was in the wrong bathroom.

Pomff, i'm a bit surprised. You don't come across as the type that would seem rattled by this scenario.


The average guy is quite a bit stronger than the average woman, and significantly less likely to be assaulted by a woman than a woman is to be by a man.

I draw the line when I am legitimately concerned for my safety. I have no problem with cross dressing, male to female transsexuals, or anything like that. I do have a problem with my safety potentially being threatened.
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Transwomen aren't male crossdressers. Go fuck yourself.
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Posted 5/9/13

Pomff wrote:
I draw the line when I am legitimately concerned for my safety. I have no problem with cross dressing, male to female transsexuals, or anything like that. I do have a problem with my safety potentially being threatened.


That's perfectly reasonable. I'm just trying to figure out when a guy in drag becomes a safety issue. :P

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Pomff wrote:


spacebat wrote:

it's funny, I don't think us guys have this issue with bathroom privacy. I've seen a girl with down's syndrome walk into the men's bathroom while I was urinating. I just finished then zipped up and told her she was in the wrong bathroom.

Pomff, i'm a bit surprised. You don't come across as the type that would seem rattled by this scenario.


The average guy is quite a bit stronger than the average woman, and significantly less likely to be assaulted by a woman than a woman is to be by a man.

I draw the line when I am legitimately concerned for my safety. I have no problem with cross dressing, male to female transsexuals, or anything like that. I do have a problem with my safety potentially being threatened.




To be honest I think a transgender person or a crossdresser has more to worry about then you do, I've seen some horrible internet videos of crossdressers and transgendered people being horribly beaten when they've tried to enter the female toilets/came out from the toilets and no one came to help them, seriously I think you are blowing this way out of proportion.
Posted 5/9/13

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Transwomen aren't male crossdressers. Go fuck yourself.


Who was that a reply to o.O? The OP?
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To be honest I think a transgender person or a crossdresser has more to worry about then you do, I've seen some horrible internet videos of crossdressers and transgendered people being horribly beaten when they've tried to enter the female toilets/came out from the toilets and no one came to help them, seriously I think you are blowing this way out of proportion.


I'm going to sound really callous here but that's a different issue, one that I agree needs to be dealt with, and I will never put their safety above my own. That's a kind of altruism I will not follow. Nearly 1 and 5 women will be raped in their lifetime, that number is way too high for me to be willing to risk mine or my wife's safety so that somebody can use a public restroom. Yes most guys wouldn't do it but most guys won't commit rape either and it still happens a lot.


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That's perfectly reasonable. I'm just trying to figure out when a guy in drag becomes a safety issue.


When there's a chance said guy in drag could be dressing as a woman specifically so he can go into the women's restroom. You're a man, how many times in your life have you felt that there's a chance you could be raped in a public place? This is one of those issues that you are less qualified to talk about than a woman due to being a guy, the same way i'd be less qualified to talk about misandry or female favored court rulings.
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When there's a chance said guy in drag could be dressing as a woman specifically so he can go into the women's restroom. You're a man, how many times in your life have you felt that there's a chance you could be raped in a public place?


Twice, actually. I'd call both sexual assaults. This discussion isn't about me though.


This is one of those issues that you are less qualified to talk about than a woman due to being a guy, the same way i'd be less qualified to talk about misandry or female favored court rulings.


Well, I am not going to go pulling up rape statistics of men in drag assaulting women in public restrooms. While weary on the statistical likely-hood of the occurrence I am not going to make any brownie points arguing it...

This is one of those topics where it's best to err on the side of caution and forego over rationalization. Better safe than sorry?

Posted 5/9/13 , edited 5/9/13

Pomff wrote:

I'm going to sound really callous here but that's a different issue, one that I agree needs to be dealt with, and I will never put their safety above my own. That's a kind of altruism I will not follow. Nearly 1 and 5 women will be raped in their lifetime, that number is way too high for me to be willing to risk mine or my wife's safety so that somebody can use a public restroom. Yes most guys wouldn't do it but most guys won't commit rape either and it still happens a lot.


Disclaimer: Excuse any typos or retarded statements in this post tis late and i need sleep ;-;.

If you think a crossdresser/transgender person putting on makeup in the womens room is bad, then imagine a them putting on makeup in the mens room... all of a sudden all the negative things they experience is magnified a thousand fold, because homophobic men are much more vocal and much more aggressive, basically crossdressers/transgendered people go to the womens toilets because they feel safer and more comfortable there.

Oh and men arn't the only ones who rape, it isn't talked about much because of the whole Patriarchy thing which really needs to GTFO I mean check out this news article and check out some of the responses to it http://www.policymic.com/articles/33593/canadian-man-sexually-assaulted-by-four-women-showing-rape-goes-both-ways basically shows why men don't report rape. because when they do they get mocked and ridiculed for it which is bloody stupid :(.

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Posted 5/10/13 , edited 5/10/13

spacebat wrote:

This is one of those topics where it's best to err on the side of caution and forego over rationalization. Better safe than sorry?


That is my opinion on this subject yes. The potential damage done is too traumatic and the odds of negative results are too great for me to play the "let's make everyone happy and have faith in people doing the right thing" game.


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men arn't the only ones who rape


Never said the were, I said the odds of a woman being raped by a man were significantly higher than the odds of a man being raped by a woman. Only an idiot would try and claim that "no this never happens" because there are always going to cases of it happening.

Like I said, they may feel safer or more comfortable there but I would not feel safer with them being there. If it comes down to my potential safety vs. their potential safety i'm going to go with my safety every single time. There are a lot of things that would make me feel safer or more comfortable that won't happen because they would infringe on too many other people's safety in comfort.

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And because I know someone may bring it up i'll just comment on this now even though it hasn't been mentioned yet. "But aren't you a lesbian Pomff? Isn't this the kind of unfair treatment you complain about?" I'd argue that while it's similar it isn't the same thing i'm complaining about.

Not accepting a man cross dressing and denying him the right to cross dress in public would be kind of like my issue with denying gay people the right to get married. Denying a cross dressing man the right to use a woman's only restroom would be similar to denying a gay couple to be married in any church they wanted even if the church in question didn't want to allow it. You could argue that well the church should marry the gay couple and the cross dresser should be allowed in the ladies room, but in both cases I believe there is a very valid reason to oppose the idea (safety for the women's room and the fact that the church is private property in the other example).

edit#2: Quoting my first post with regards to a transgender woman.

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Now if the person in question is a pre op transsexual then i'd probably just brush it off.
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Transwomen aren't male crossdressers. Go fuck yourself.


If you read my post properly you should've seen that I pointed out this post is about MALE CROSS-DRESSERS and not TRANSGENDER. Transgender are technically women and I have no problem with them using female toilets. But male cross-dressers are men wearing women's clothing whenever they feel like "dressing-up", and many of them are actually heterosexual.

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