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Umm... plenty of '60s and '70s cars could break 100 without trouble, and many could go much higher than that. Those 350HP+ V8s weren't just for show.

Of course... I wouldn't WANT to do over 80 on '70s tires. The sheer lack of grip is stunning.


Generally I'm a fan of the classics. Well, back then peeps didn't have to worry so much about gas and the people that designed the cars...it really wasn't about the profit it was about making the car (I know its idealistic and impractical in our world but heck...). However these classics are not all fun and games.
Dude I totally agree with you but its not just grip, its also about the handling. Back then power steering was a new concept then so most cars didn't have it. Trust me guys you don't want to mess with a car that does have power steering its a serious workout.
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69 charger rt
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Posted 10/6/08

thanos369 wrote:



Umm... plenty of '60s and '70s cars could break 100 without trouble, and many could go much higher than that. Those 350HP+ V8s weren't just for show.

Of course... I wouldn't WANT to do over 80 on '70s tires. The sheer lack of grip is stunning.


Generally I'm a fan of the classics. Well, back then peeps didn't have to worry so much about gas and the people that designed the cars...it really wasn't about the profit it was about making the car (I know its idealistic and impractical in our world but heck...). However these classics are not all fun and games.
Dude I totally agree with you but its not just grip, its also about the handling. Back then power steering was a new concept then so most cars didn't have it. Trust me guys you don't want to mess with a car that does have power steering its a serious workout.


Power steering's not that big of a deal, especially when you're talking about cars that were designed not to have it. The real problem with steering on classics is that they used a steering box system, instead of the modern rack and pinion, which lead to a large number of turns from lock-to-lock (also largely because, without power steering, having the wheels turn less for every turn of the steering wheel lead to lighter steering effort), and also caused horrible steering "feel", with little road feedback and a lack of responsiveness. More modern cars without PS aren't bad at all, though. I've had two non-PS Miatas, one which was originally manual and one which was a conversion from a power to manual rack, a manual-steering MR2, and have experience with Formula 2000 cars with power nothing (no steering, no power brakes, etc), and all of them were completely manageable at speed, and would've only been hard at low speed for a very weak individual.

The bigger problem really came from a combination of very heavy cars, primitive suspension designs, bad brakes, and the already-mentioned tires. Brakes were a very major issue, especially before power-boosted brakes and ABS became available. Even after power brakes, older brakes, especially drums, but also disc brakes, would heat up quickly, and brake pads would create gasses that would become trapped between the pad and the rotor, causing a decrease in friction. This is the real reason drilled and slotted brakes were created, to allow those gases to dissipate. Drums were horrible, because the heat would become trapped within a closed metal container, with little way of cooling, and no way for gasses to escape efficiently. Early brake fluids would also boil at lower temperatures, and cause air bubbles to enter the system and cause a drastic reduction in pedal response and feel, as well as overall ability to apply pressure on the rotor/drum.
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The bigger problem really came from a combination of very heavy cars, primitive suspension designs, bad brakes, and the already-mentioned tires. Brakes were a very major issue, especially before power-boosted brakes and ABS became available. Even after power brakes, older brakes, especially drums, but also disc brakes, would heat up quickly, and brake pads would create gasses that would become trapped between the pad and the rotor, causing a decrease in friction. This is the real reason drilled and slotted brakes were created, to allow those gases to dissipate. Drums were horrible, because the heat would become trapped within a closed metal container, with little way of cooling, and no way for gasses to escape efficiently. Early brake fluids would also boil at lower temperatures, and cause air bubbles to enter the system and cause a drastic reduction in pedal response and feel, as well as overall ability to apply pressure on the rotor/drum.


True. The heating and cooling systems in most cars were indeed terrible. I remember my dad lent his friend's '74 VW bug. Man, I almost got myself cooked in that thing. The engine overheated like every other day. I don't know too much about the brake systems of classic cars..from the ones I've driven (the oldest car I've driven would be the '74 Nissan Sunny), it really didn't constitute that much of a problem. But then again I really didn't put the car through much so..I wouldn't know.

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Posted 12/23/08

kissen wrote:

look i think that old cars r kool and i wish i have one of them cuz they r like funny and dum so i think their pretty good


and i wanna know how much could their speed get to i think its like 80 or 100 thats the fastes they have

and tell me ur idea of them and plz comment how much could their speed get??


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23 / M / Estacada, Or
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Posted 12/23/08
It is true, a lot of old muscle cars could do just about 100, but they could get there fast! if you want speed and the muscle car look, look into a 1969 dodge charger. some of those had a top speed of 200 mph and were used in NASCAR with barely any modifications.
Posted 12/24/08
lol old mus cars r great. my pops use to own a 69 SS camaro back when i was in 3rd grade good year and car
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Posted 12/25/08
yeah..i always wanted that aston martin-DB5..James Bond..hehehe
Posted 12/25/08
some are cool,especially if one upgrades them
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the cool thing about old cars is you drive it by feeling it out.. you adjust to the car.. not the car adjusting to you.. It's all about instinct with old cars and that's the fun part
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I like the 240z. Id buy one if I could find one in good condition
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Yes, some of them are nice, and others is ugly.
Posted 1/3/09
i like the old cares better then the new
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Posted 1/3/09

elbano91 wrote:

It is true, a lot of old muscle cars could do just about 100, but they could get there fast! if you want speed and the muscle car look, look into a 1969 dodge charger. some of those had a top speed of 200 mph and were used in NASCAR with barely any modifications.


Well the only reason they can ONLY go to 100 MPH is cuz they only had 4 gears....
Also love old cars
Datsun Bluebird
240Z
Celica's
Cosmos
and the granddaddy of them all: the Toyota 2000GT
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Posted 1/4/09
what about old the old Ford GT, the American Shelby's, Alfa Romeo's and ...lets not forget...the Soviet Trabant, now thats a proper car! breaking 30mph would take you almost 15mins if your on a downslope, that's FAST!!!!
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