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Posted 5/11/13 , edited 5/11/13

sygtnok wrote: Why is it almost always only for those in the USA and Canada???

We are in fact a lot of users in Europe. Shouldn't we get some kind of compensation for the enormous amount of good shows we can't watch like the others?


Sure, its unfair that a smaller number of people per license region means that licensors are looking for more revenue per viewer to make it worth their while, but on the one hand, whenever there are fixed costs, that is naturally unfair to people in smaller markets, and on the other hand, accepting whatever ideas the creators have about how to license their works is just something Crunchyroll had to accept when they were faced with the choice between going legit and shutting down ~ and that is true whether the ideas that the licensors have are sensible or silly.

This is licensed by Kaze for the UK, and it wouldn't be surprising if they hold the French rights as well. They might even hold an option to the German rights. If there were, say, 4,000 Crunchyroll members in the parts of Europe not covered by the Kaze license, or by broadcast options like the various Animax channels that still show anime, and 5% were likely to watch this catalog title, that would be 200 views from the parts of Europe not already blocked by Kaze. 200 views would not cover the contracting costs of adding the parts of Europe outside of UK/Ireland and wherever else in Europe that Kaze or other companies may have rights.

Now, if this title was licensed with non-exclusive streaming rights, then all of the EU would be available, and the contracting costs would also be lower, since standard contract language could make sure that all other streaming rights holders rights were respected ... so that might make it possible for Crunchyroll to start double-contracting their rights in the future. But that is going to happen with simulcasts first, because the higher viewership of simulcasts makes it easier to cover the extra fixed costs of double contracting.
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Awesome, due to licensing... why do i even bother paying to watch anime when you can't watch half the shows
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Posted 5/12/13
again only US/Canada, such a shame
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leima69 wrote:

Awesome, due to licensing... why do i even bother paying to watch anime when you can't watch half the shows :(

So if CR only existed in the UK, you would be complaining you weren't getting enough shows for the money?

People would be a lot happier if they weren't constantly peering over the fence, sighing, and remarking on how much greener the neighbor's grass was.

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I prefer to watch it uncensored.
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Posted 5/13/13

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leima69 wrote:

Awesome, due to licensing... why do i even bother paying to watch anime when you can't watch half the shows :(

So if CR only existed in the UK, you would be complaining you weren't getting enough shows for the money?

People would be a lot happier if they weren't constantly peering over the fence, sighing, and remarking on how much greener the neighbor's grass was.



No, i use CR cause it gives me access to more anime then the UK has and would rather pay for my anime then download, but when you pay for a service an it doesn't delivery then i have to download anyway.

Why would you peer over someone else fence? if your not happy you can easily pay to get it just as green, where as on here no matter how much money i throw at CR i'm still not going to be able to watch the shows am i? No, so i have to download or use other sites to watch the shows.
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Posted 5/13/13 , edited 5/13/13

leima69 wrote: Why would you peer over someone else fence? if your not happy you can easily pay to get it just as green, where as on here no matter how much money i throw at CR i'm still not going to be able to watch the shows am i? No, so i have to download or use other sites to watch the shows.

Yes, but on your side of the fence, you get more series for the money by having your Crunchyroll subscriptions pooled in with the North American money, covering the contracting costs, than you would get from a similar service based on the UK alone ... and indeed, more series for your money than you did based on a stand-alone service like Anime on Demand (and at that price the were not making a go of it, as shown by the fact they had to put it on the back burner to rework it).

And we constantly see the relatively privileged pommie users with a large majority of simulcasts every season complaining because they look over the US/UK fence, while not looking over the UK / Latin America, UK / Middle Europe or UK / Middle East fence, which would put into a broader context how many simulcasts the UK does get. Boo bloody hoo, you got 80% of the Spring simulcast licenses on Crunchyroll ... and two of the missing series are streaming free on AoD instead. Meanwhile the Ozzies got 75%, the Scandinavians 65%, the Brazilians 40% and the Spaniards 30%, and a good chunk of the world only got 10% to 15%.

Given the difference between subscriber bases and scale economies that come into play, a fair price for subscription per series available for a free standing UK site is easily 50% to 100% higher than a fair price for subscription per series available for a free standing UK site. With 80% of the simulcasts available, the UK pays a much more modest 25% premium by pooling costs with North American subscribers on Crunchyroll.
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Gee... Now that we're peeking over fences, I'd love to have a service like Anime on Demand here in Finland too. Ol' Crunchy pretty much owns the market around here!
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Sucks that season 2 is censored tho.
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Posted 5/15/13 , edited 5/15/13

KirinZero wrote:

Sucks that season 2 is censored tho.


Indeed, censorship is always unfortunate and especially so in this case when you can now see what could have been and will be on AT-X and the Blurays for season 2 as well...
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Posted 5/15/13
just yes!
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Posted 5/15/13
What is the last catalog title?
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traveling wrote:

What is the last catalog title?

Last? The lineup page shows two "?" boxes in the catalog titles section.

If you are going by the "?? - ??" in the first message, that is only to indicate another announcement is due, not the number of titles remaining.

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TheAncientOne wrote:


traveling wrote:

What is the last catalog title?

Last? The lineup page shows two "?" boxes in the catalog titles section.

If you are going by the "?? - ??" in the first message, that is only to indicate another announcement is due, not the number of titles remaining.



Ok. So there's still two more. I'm still asking when are they going to be announced?
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traveling wrote:
Ok. So there's still two more. I'm still asking when are they going to be announced?

Don't expect a useful answer, as I doubt even CR knows, otherwise there would have been a date listed.

CR can have an agreement for a title without the details on date of delivery, etc. having been worked out yet.

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