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Posted 5/10/13

PhyongHwa wrote:


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I'm saying he should have waited until class was over and calmly asked for help or if in class been polite and and asked for help, If he didn't receive it, he could have complained to his student counsel, or the counselor or even the the vice principle, If the kid is starved for help from that teacher, maybe he can transfer to another class.


When my kid has problems in school, I help them, or find someone who can (teacher or student tutor, etc.). I saw the interview. His mom is a teacher. Why didn't he get help from her?

Although what he said was true, in my day we didn't yell at our elders, nor did we use curse words (or near curse words) in their presence. When I was in high school you could get suspended or paddled for that. It was considered disrespectful.


so your agreeing with me??
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Khaltazar wrote:

Teachers should be more like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yHaYFiNv_8


That teacher is super-legit. I bet he even could do impossible things such as find the area of a rectangle without tripping all over himself.


We need teachers like him who are excited to teach. Most teachers will know a textbook they are required to plan around but you ask a question relating to that but not in the book and they will panic. He got up on the table to get his students engaged, teachers don't do that and for him to do that it probably shocked them and made them interested. He might have had a little too much energy, but I would rather see that than teachers like the first post link where she is just sitting at her desk and tell students "read and answer."
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I paid a couple hundred dollars or more to get an education in college only to have a teacher that scribbles his work and can't explain things correctly thus making it harder for the students to pick up on his material. I wish there was a refund capability for such a down turn. I've had another where the teacher is boring the class to death. One cannot learn under null and dull circumstances. It puts a greater burden on the students. If a teacher is having a low percentile on the students who pass their class, then that teacher needs to be either examined or fired. It's sad, that sometimes schools can't find more teachers than what they have so even with the above, it's difficult.

Sorry, you are going to hate hearing this, but I'm going to tell you anyway.

You are an adult so quit whining about how your life isn't being made perfect for you. College professors are not responsible for entertaining you, or for making your life easy or fun. They are responsible for providing the material and information; you are responsible for learning it. Considering the tiny amount of money and effort you have invested in your college education, you have no place demanding that a professor be fired for not meeting your ridiculous expectations. After you put in the work to earn a PhD and gain tenure at a university, then your opinion may carry some weight, but that won't happen until you take responsibility for yourself.

Also, some groups of students are just dumber than others. They don't work as hard, or it's a night class, or whatever, and for some reason they don't learn the material as well as other groups of students do. It's just the way it is.

BTW, you mistook "percentile" for "percentage". They mean different things, even though they sound alike. A percentile is the ranking in which one student stands in relation to others. A person in the 75th percentile has scored better than 75 out of 100 other people, and worse than 24 out of 100 other people. These are used for reference points on bell curves, and often set standards for grading. A "C" grade (70-79%) is considered "average" because it spans the 50th percentile in a good bell curve. That means that very few people get above 90%, and very few people get below 60%, but that those scores still exist.
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AcadGlade wrote:


so your agreeing with me??


Kind of, but I can understand where he's coming from, and how his frustration got the better of him. We all have to remember that although on the outside he looks like a young man, mentally he is still a kid, and as adults we need to be more understanding & forgiving of the mistakes that children make..... At most I would point out to him that although his points are valid, he was disrespectful & should apologize to her publicly. On the other hand though, this type of disrespect runs rampant in the workplace, so it's not like adults (society) are setting a good example either.

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I wasn't the only one who experienced this at my college. Many other students struggled with the teachers I had in mind. And I'm not announcing my opinion to anyone in a position to fix this nor people who like to think their opinions is greater than others. I never whined about my life being imperfect. Granted, the teachers don't have to entertain you, but I meant that it would make their teaching much more fruitful. I never demanded any of this and I sure wouldn't demand it to Crunchyroll. If my opinion is as lowly as you make it to be then you just joined me in it. Thanks for the correction at "percentile". Yes, they sound the same. But I wasn't looking to make a cohesive post. And yes, some students cant learn as well as others can.

Perhaps I threw my words out there too quickly. When I said they "should be fired" I meant that after semesters of a poor success rate, if nothing is improved and if the teacher isn't pulling their weight, then the option would be considered as a last resort. Again, that isn't my department. It was just an opinion. People seem to think quick to tear another persons thoughts out.
Posted 5/10/13

AcadGlade wrote:


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AcadGlade wrote:

Actually you cannot judge the teacher by seeing one video and by listening to the rantings of a disrespectful student, Perhaps the teacher is being lackadaisical about her teaching, however the student is wrong in pointing it out in front of the class, because he's undermining her authority, sounds like this kid a serious lesson in showing respect, not in being boisterous.


I miss the days when people can beat their kids to death, and also this brat needs to know there is nothing wrong with the teacher, school or the education system. Right?


I'm saying he should have waited until class was over and calmly asked for help or if in class been polite and and asked for help, If he didn't receive it, he could have complained to his student counsel, or the counselor or even the the vice principle, If the kid is starved for help from that teacher, maybe he can transfer to another class.


Sorry I just wanted gauge your thoughts and illicit a reaction. the only thing in my statement that i believe in are that kids are spoiled and whiny, plus they lack disciprine! These days.
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I wasn't the only one who experienced this at my college. Many other students struggled with the teachers I had in mind. And I'm not announcing my opinion to anyone in a position to fix this nor people who like to think their opinions is greater than others. I never whined about my life being imperfect. Granted, the teachers don't have to entertain you, but I meant that it would make their teaching much more fruitful. I never demanded any of this and I sure wouldn't demand it to Crunchyroll. If my opinion is as lowly as you make it to be then you just joined me in it. Thanks for the correction at "percentile". Yes, they sound the same. But I wasn't looking to make a cohesive post. And yes, some students cant learn as well as others can.

Perhaps I threw my words out there too quickly. When I said they "should be fired" I meant that after semesters of a poor success rate, if nothing is improved and if the teacher isn't pulling their weight, then the option would be considered as a last resort. Again, that isn't my department. It was just an opinion. People seem to think quick to tear another persons thoughts out.


You took that really well and now I'm feeling guilty for being harsh. As an adult, you are expected to function in less-than-ideal conditions, and sometimes that means that class will be boring as shit. Imagine being a professor who is required to teach X amount of general education credits per semester to a bunch of non-majors with bad attitudes and worse study habits. That's way more boring than picking your nose and daydreaming about bikini girls through a lecture. Anyway, the more advanced the course is, the more interesting it is, for the most part. Hang in there and try to take the boring classes online when you can.
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I know that there is probably more to this but I gotta say that I don't blame him. The highschool I went to would do the same thing, we'd sit down every day be given some worksheet and have little if any lecture or discussion about it. One of my teachers would even sit at his desk watching the simpsons every day as we were told to read the textbook.


I remember when I was a sophomore in high school taking a Marine Biology class.....They gave us crayons and had us color pages of marine animals in class! What's more shocking is that some students didn't pass or barely passed the class. Hell in a handbasket...hell in a handbasket.
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In our school district there's "no recording devices of any kind allowed to be either visible or on without consent from the school and consent of the parties being recorded". That was for the safety of students to protect from the voyeurs & hazers). If you get caught, you can be suspended or expelled. Was that allowed on campus in that school? Who was the "cameraman"?
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I've never been an instructor, nor teacher, nor Professor, and not all of those in the profession are as uninterested in the students the teacher in the video seems to be, In fact while I was in High School there were several outstanding teachers, one who unfortunatly is no longer with us, Miss Margarite Hougasian, she taught most, if not all of the vocal music groups, and piano classes at John Muir, and she was, in a word, " Outta sight! "
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JoeSurf wrote:
I wasn't the only one who experienced this at my college. Many other students struggled with the teachers I had in mind. And I'm not announcing my opinion to anyone in a position to fix this nor people who like to think their opinions is greater than others. I never whined about my life being imperfect. Granted, the teachers don't have to entertain you, but I meant that it would make their teaching much more fruitful. I never demanded any of this and I sure wouldn't demand it to Crunchyroll. If my opinion is as lowly as you make it to be then you just joined me in it. Thanks for the correction at "percentile". Yes, they sound the same. But I wasn't looking to make a cohesive post. And yes, some students cant learn as well as others can.

Perhaps I threw my words out there too quickly. When I said they "should be fired" I meant that after semesters of a poor success rate, if nothing is improved and if the teacher isn't pulling their weight, then the option would be considered as a last resort. Again, that isn't my department. It was just an opinion. People seem to think quick to tear another persons thoughts out.


You took that really well and now I'm feeling guilty for being harsh. As an adult, you are expected to function in less-than-ideal conditions, and sometimes that means that class will be boring as shit. Imagine being a professor who is required to teach X amount of general education credits per semester to a bunch of non-majors with bad attitudes and worse study habits. That's way more boring than picking your nose and daydreaming about bikini girls through a lecture. Anyway, the more advanced the course is, the more interesting it is, for the most part. Hang in there and try to take the boring classes online when you can.


I'll take your point for it. And thanks, I will. And don't worry about it. Shit happens >.>
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Mellow dramatic, 96 op of 69.
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Posted 5/10/13
Well I personally believe that they should just revamp the public education system in it's entirety; at this point all we're doing is prepping students for a test (that dictates whether they graduate or not/finals) and they're not retaining the knowledge that they're learning from their classes. Not to mention students these days are apathetic, whiny and spoiled as fuck and that in turn impacts the teachers as well (vice-versa). So really its pretty bad all around. Then again it's probably the cynic in me speaking.
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Some teachers...especially professors...do need to be spoken against if they're saying something stupid and it doesn't make sense in a discussion. Especially in politics.
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I speak against my teachers all the time. They deserve it.
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