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Legal Implications of Anime Pirating
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I've used Crunchyroll ever since I started watching anime, but there are some anime titles that it does not license.

Most of the people I know who watch anime all illegally watch anime on other sites (will not name them due to CR rules) but of course have never been caught in their life. Moreover, I don't think they will ever get caught with the hundreds of episodes they have stored in their computers. Unlike downloading regular cinematic movies that come out in theaters, people have no fear of downloading or streaming anime at all.

I personally just try watching anime wherever I can get it legally outside of CR at places such as Netflix.

1. What are the chances of one being even caught?

2. If the answer to the above is none or barely any, do you think that there should be an effort made by the anime industry to enforce some sort of an anti-anime piracy law?

3. Do you think it's alright (morally or legally) for these people to download/stream illegal anime that is NOT licensed by Crunchyroll? I've seen a lot of posts that insult others for pirating anime that CR actually does license, but I haven't seen someone criticize another for illegally watching anime that CR does not license.

4. If you ever did or still illegally stream/download anime, do you feel guilty about it?
Posted 5/11/13
1. Unlikely unless they torrent it. And even then it's rare for the ISP to really crack down on it. (+ VPN's can basically hide you completely)

2. Don't care.

3. Don't care.

4. Nope.
Posted 5/11/13
We just want to watch the world burn. Let us have our fun, ok?
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I guess the majority of the answers will be that no one really cares, just thought there'd be some defensive pro-more strict people but oh well.
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Looks uh muh, I'm so super moral. I kid, I use all kinds of websites to stream anime (legal/illegal).
Posted 5/11/13

Gyava wrote:

I guess the majority of the answers will be that no one really cares, just thought there'd be some defensive pro-more strict people but oh well.


I pretend to be on some sites to troll people. But yeah the majority of people don't give a fuck, which is why illegal sites are so popular.
Posted 5/11/13
Do you even torrent?
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1. Close to nothing. Obviously it depends on location, but still a low chance. On another note, uploaders are more likely to get caught than downloaders.

2. Yes i actually do think some effort should be made to avoid pirating, but not unless they work on releasing much more anime. We need more sites with lots of anime available and good streaming for a decent price.

3. I used to feel a tiny bit guilty before when i contributed nothing, but keeping a subscription to CR and then watching anime when i want, wherever i want, doesnt feel wrong. If its anyone`s fault its the anime industry for blocking everything in regions and doing very little to increase it outside of japan. I will keep going as i am until they change and make me convinced its not pointless to do otherwise.
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yea i stream and download anime illegally sometimes. Gurren lagann im half tempted to find a torrent somewhere because the prices got jacked up and i cant find anywhere to buy it legally at a decent price, I dont want to pay $70 dollars for the series when it was $50 a month or two ago.
Generallyi dont stream illegally because the quality is usually horrible and the ads suck, i havnt found an illegal streaming site with good quality like crunchy roll. generally if i want to watch something that crunchyroll doesnt have i'll go to the animenewsnetwork(im pretty sure i can mention that site because its not an illegal streaming site, think...) and stream it from there because they seem to have like everything(probably not everything though) and i can deal with some ads here and there because the quality is good on that site. If i can find the anime series i want at $60 or less ill buy it, if not i try to find other means to get it.
and no i dont feel quilty about it at all xD. the only two i think i have downloaded illegally so far is cheeky angel and all of dragon ball, dbz, and db gt because i couldnt find a place to buy the complete set in its originality(meaning they take out any blood and gore, middle fingers or bad words, if there was any bad words)

im sure no one gonna read all that text .. but whatev
crunchyroll is where i mostly wath all my anime now though and sometimes netflix
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Posted 5/11/13

Elektrawnik wrote:

Do you even torrent?


Yeah, yeah, I forgot about torrents.. It's 2013... who doesn't?
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Posted 5/11/13

Elektrawnik wrote:

Do you even torrent?


Not anymore, ISP caught me.
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1. What are the chances of one being even caught?
Probably low

2. If the answer to the above is none or barely any, do you think that there should be an effort made by the anime industry to enforce some sort of an anti-anime piracy law?
No but I would like to support my favorite animes.

3. Do you think it's alright (morally or legally) for these people to download/stream illegal anime that is NOT licensed by Crunchyroll? I've seen a lot of posts that insult others for pirating anime that CR actually does license, but I haven't seen someone criticize another for illegally watching anime that CR does not license.
I do it. I even watch Attack on Titan on a different site because it comes out so damn late.

4. If you ever did or still illegally stream/download anime, do you feel guilty about it?
Guilty about it? A little. I want to support the shows I like. Beelzebub (and other good animes) ended way to earlier and I don't want other shows to end like that. (Not sure if it was because of the cost but I believe it was.
I will continue to do it though. I try to pay to this site though so I can support some of the anime.
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Gyava wrote:


Elektrawnik wrote:

Do you even torrent?


Not anymore, ISP caught me.


Dude, that sucks...You only got a warning right? Not a fine...
I suggest you stahp illegally downloading stuff, not much can be done if they do decide to come after you.

me, I'm always dl music/movies, I have about 250gb worth...
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Posted 5/11/13

Gyava wrote:

I've used Crunchyroll ever since I started watching anime, but there are some anime titles that it does not license.

Most of the people I know who watch anime all illegally watch anime on other sites (will not name them due to CR rules) but of course have never been caught in their life. Moreover, I don't think they will ever get caught with the hundreds of episodes they have stored in their computers. Unlike downloading regular cinematic movies that come out in theaters, people have no fear of downloading or streaming anime at all.

I personally just try watching anime wherever I can get it legally outside of CR at places such as Netflix.

1. What are the chances of one being even caught?


No idea. not High I imagine.


2. If the answer to the above is none or barely any, do you think that there should be an effort made by the anime industry to enforce some sort of an anti-anime piracy law?


I don't know about others. but an effort to make quality streaming of as much anime as possible for a reasonable fee would completely prevent any temptation for me to watch illegal streams. I happily pay Crunchroll a monthly fee in order to pay for my anime. I still buy dvds (often from/through crunchroll) I STOPPED paying for netflix because their anime section (at least for canadian members) is a sad, sad joke. And I refuse to give Funimation any money until they produce a player that works and catalogue system that doesn't leaving grinding my teeth in frustration. I sometimes watch illegally uploaded streams of animes that I own. even animes from which I haven't removed the cellophane, because a) as an owner of the disc it's legal for me to watch it anyway I want and b) it's more convienient to stream.

So.. simply put I'm demonstrably willing to pay. if it's available and reasonably accessible. False barriers encourage me to take actions that support/enable piracy. Not cost.



3. Do you think it's alright (morally or legally) for these people to download/stream illegal anime that is NOT licensed by Crunchyroll? I've seen a lot of posts that insult others for pirating anime that CR actually does license, but I haven't seen someone criticize another for illegally watching anime that CR does not license.


Not sure? maybe. Who are These people? and what is the specific circumstance. I do not consider it morally or even legally wrong to watch a stream of an anime you own in another format even if that format was acquired illegally by a third party. If I paid for the disc I can watch it anyway I want. Legal or Not, I don't begrudge any premium member watching a CR anime that isn't available in their country any way they can. They paid the same fee that I, a lucky North American, did. I'm ambivalent about shows that aren't available on CR but only mildly so. I honestly find it hard to feel sorry for companies that refuse to harness an obvious market. It's access not cost that causes me to be tempted to visit illegal sites.



4. If you ever did or still illegally stream/download anime, do you feel guilty about it?


Sometimes. Less so now than in the past, since A) it doesn't happen very often. I have paid and am paying for plenty and C) I really blame the Anime exporters for not getting their licensing/streaming act together to capitalize on a market that WILL pay for stuff IF they can get it.


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Posted 5/11/13 , edited 5/11/13

a619ko wrote:


Gyava wrote:


Elektrawnik wrote:

Do you even torrent?


Not anymore, ISP caught me.


Dude, that sucks...You only got a warning right? Not a fine...
I suggest you stahp illegally downloading stuff, not much can be done if they do decide to come after you.

me, I'm always dl music/movies, I have about 250gb worth...


I know.. I downloaded lots of movies and games, they finally got me on Sherlock Holmes 1. and yeah, I got a warning. The fine scares the crap out of me, especially because of how high it can go up to ($250,000 + jailtime I think). Those were the glory days to be honest, I had the 'freedom' to download all these PC games and watch anything I really wanted.

but one day I turned on my computer and as soon as I turned on Firefox, it said something like:

Your internet privileges have been revoked. Call your ISP # at etc.etc.etc.
Next 5 minutes of my life were full of the words "Holy shit" being thought every 2 seconds in my brain..

Mom had to talk on the phone too so that they could have her and my voice as recordings to keep in case they catch me again and they use them as evidence to put me in jail + fine me.

One of the scariest events of my life, man. Never downloaded an illegal thing after.
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