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Wartime Comfort Women were Necessary
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Posted 5/14/13 , edited 5/14/13
I've been learning about comfort women in my Korean Literature class this semester and seeing him say stuff like this is...appalling. Does he realize how many women out there are still in front of the Japanese government building asking to be acknowledged that they were put under so much pain by the soldiers during the war? Many of them are grandmothers by now, but they still cannot think about the past without shivering. And they weren't even treated as comfort women. They were treated as livestock. They would get raped over and over by lines of men at night and once they got pregnant, they were killed or thrown away. Some of them were even forced to undergo vaginal mutilation later on so they could keep being used without ever becoming pregnant. This...this...ARGH.

v I got my sources from interviews with comfort women.
Posted 5/14/13
All history books are lies. You just got to bite your tongue and live with it, cause you will never know what the actual truth is. That's why they call it history and let football coaches teach it.
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[semi-off topic] To be quite honest, I just can't stand the thought of seeing Japan lose their pride. Saying "Yes we are war monsters, you were right to punish us with a nuclear annihilation, sorry master" I already see them spit upon on a daily basis because the don't conform to the USA global empire. I feel like I want to shield them from the anti-culture virus, but I fear the humble Japanese will hara-kire. They are already jumping off cliffs in large numbers. I wonder if the human sacrifice blood rain will be enough to feed G.I. Joe.

They are the only country to feel a nuclear strike, and at the time the was no fear of MAD. So they were free to use it.

Yes I know this sounds like crazy rambling, but I fear a monoculture and would be a boring state of the world. My opinion is wrong.
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[semi-off topic] To be quite honest, I just can't stand the thought of seeing Japan lose their pride. Saying "Yes we are war monsters, you were right to punish us with a nuclear annihilation, sorry master" I already see them spit upon on a daily basis because the don't conform to the USA global empire. I feel like I want to shield them from the anti-culture virus, but I fear the humble Japanese will hara-kire. They are already jumping off cliffs in large numbers. I wonder if the human sacrifice blood rain will be enough to feed G.I. Joe.

They are the only country to feel a nuclear strike, and at the time the was no fear of MAD. So they were free to use it.

Yes I know this sounds like crazy rambling, but I fear a monoculture and would be a boring state of the world. My opinion is wrong.


It's not the US they would be apologising too, it's Korea, China, Taiwan, The Philipinnes and other territories they occupied. So it wouldn't really be case of them 'losing their pride' to the people who bombed them (a very controversial decision on America's part and for another thread).

I have actually been reading up about the past few minutes and it really is horrific what those women went through.


However, it seems Japan has apologised somewhat, according to Wikipedia anyway

In 1965, the Japanese government awarded $364 million to the Korean government for all war damages, including the injury done to comfort women.[64] In 1994, the Japanese government set up the Asian Women's Fund to distribute additional compensation to South Korea, the Philippines, Taiwan, the Netherlands, and Indonesia.[65] Each survivor was provided with a signed apology from the then prime minister Tomiichi Murayama, stating "As Prime Minister of Japan, I thus extend anew my most sincere apologies and remorse to all the women who underwent immeasurable and painful experiences and suffered incurable physical and psychological wounds as comfort women."[66] The fund was dissolved on March 31, 2007.[67] Three Korean women filed suit in Japan in December, 1991, around the time of the 50th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack, demanding compensation for forced prostitution. They introduced documents found by history Professor Yoshiaki Yoshida that had been stored at the Japanese Defense Agency since their return to Japan by United States troops in 1958.[68] Subsequently, on January 14, 1992, Japanese Chief Government Spokesman Koichi Kato issued an official apology saying "We cannot deny that the former Japanese army played a role" in abducting and detaining the "comfort girls, " and "We would like to express our apologies and contrition".[68][69][70] Three days later on January 17, 1992 at a dinner given by South Korean President Roh Tae Woo, the Japanese Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa told his host: " We Japanese should first and foremost recall the truth of that tragic period when Japanese actions inflicted suffering and sorrow upon your people. We should never forget our feelings of remorse over this. As Prime Minister of Japan, I would like to declare anew my remorse at these deeds and tender my apology to the people of the Republic of Korea." and apologized again the following day in a speech before South Korea's National Assembly.[71][72] On April 28, 1998, the Japanese court ruled that the Government must compensate the women and awarded them US$2,300 ($3,240 in 2013) each.[73] In 2007 the surviving sex slaves wanted an apology from the Japanese government. Shinzō Abe, the prime minister at the time, stated on March 1, 2007, that there was no evidence that the Japanese government had kept sex slaves, even though the Japanese government had already admitted the use of brothels in 1993. On March 27 the Japanese parliament issued an official apology.

So this could just be some nutjob the media has latched onto.

Anyway, I don't think Japan is as high on America's hate list as some other countries would be.
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Isn't this the same guy that told a US military official in Okinawa that they should make more use of the sex industry because it would reduce the amount of rapes going on there? I think they dude might just have a whole lot of screws loose. Then again there are a large amount of Japanese who do deny the events or try to justify it. Still I would think he should removed from office simply because of the damage he could cause the country as a whole's relations. Then again I'm not a Japanese citizen much less an Osaka resident so I guess it's up to them.
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miserykitsune wrote:

It's not the US they would be apologising too, it's Korea, China, Taiwan, The Philipinnes and other territories they occupied. So it wouldn't really be case of them 'losing their pride' to the people who bombed them (a very controversial decision on America's part and for another thread).


Yes, I see, but I'm somewhat sympathetic to Japanese nationalists, because a lot of Japanese people seem to not have much pride in their country, and they're the only ones who seem to say "It's good to be humble but don't over do it".

But the whole political landscape in Japan just seems so polarised.

Usually It's the USA telling other countries they've done something wrong, that's why I lament USA influence, because it seems no other countries have a voice to speak out on a subject, that's why I brought up the USA. And Japan is too humble to say "mind your own business" like a 'Merrican would do if lectured on Mexico policy (the two obviously not comparable).
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While its true humans need some sort of pleasure during times of war in other to get through, both physically and mentally, it is no excuse.
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oh look a japanese version of american far right conservative
these kind of people will never die out
the country officially apologized
yes they don't like to mention their wrong doings often just like other countries
but if you are going to point in a direction, give all the facts surrounding it first
there are ignorant idiots who like to jump on the bandwagon
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I have no fear of the Japanese killing themselves, they can face the truth. The shift operating the Nuclear Plant during the Tsunami went in and kept that plant from going critical with several receiving lethal doses of radiation. They are a brave and often noble people who have some introspection like the Irish and others which they need to face and not find excuses.

Many Australians-Irish, American-Irish, Canadian-Irish and others who sent home money died and kill in the name of the Irish rebellion/revolution. Their relatives celebrated not having to invade another country 17 years later of a brave people and to kill and starve many more, the result of war, than died in those two fireballs of death. How would you explain it to someone you cared for, that instead of dropping a bomb that killed ten's of thousands that are trying to kill you, that you let them kill ten's of thousands of your and their uncles, fathers, brothers, sisters and friends fighting at your side. (This you is not about judging you but reference to a decision you would have to make.)

I hate the numbers game but sitting in a room of relative safety doesn't equal the constant four years of total war that began with great animosity over a delayed notice of war. A war that the chief architect of battles for their country tried, even to the cost of having assassination attempts to prevent him from stopping (by his own side). I have no desire to see his bravery minimized or his native land conform to things, other than, don't kill those of my native land or its allies.

Every nation has closets better left closed, but they usually don't open it and show pictures of the rape to the victims.
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miserykitsune wrote:

It's not the US they would be apologising too, it's Korea, China, Taiwan, The Philipinnes and other territories they occupied. So it wouldn't really be case of them 'losing their pride' to the people who bombed them (a very controversial decision on America's part and for another thread).


Yes, I see, but I'm somewhat sympathetic to Japanese nationalists, because a lot of Japanese people seem to not have much pride in their country, and they're the only ones who seem to say "It's good to be humble but don't over do it".

But the whole political landscape in Japan just seems so polarised.

Usually It's the USA telling other countries they've done something wrong, that's why I lament USA influence, because it seems no other countries have a voice to speak out on a subject, that's why I brought up the USA. And Japan is too humble to say "mind your own business" like a 'Merrican would do if lectured on Mexico policy (the two obviously not comparable).


To be fair, that's not really unique to Japan. Lots of people complain or feel ashamed of their country or it's history. Japan also had a terrible economic crash a few years back and those have bad effects on any nations psyche.

My knowledge of Japanese politics is pretty much limited to WW2 since it's just something I find interesting so I can't comment on that,

It might just be because I'm Irish/British and have a real problem with the IRA and BNP but I have less sympathy for extreme nationalists of any kind (which this fella seems to be). It's ok to have pride in your country but too many are set on creating an 'Us vs them' sort of thing.

Japan might not be telling America to eff off like some countries would but I don't think they would care that much about the opinion of the USA.
Posted 5/14/13

AruarianDance wrote:

wartime comfort does sound very comfy though. mhmm....


Since when is rape comfort?

You do know that hordes of Japanese soldiers repeatedly raped ONE women? Several women reported that they were raped 100's of times per day by a LOT of soldiers over and over with no break in between.

Wartime comfort sounds so comfy indeed.
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Lemon0118 wrote:

[semi-off topic] To be quite honest, I just can't stand the thought of seeing Japan lose their pride. Saying "Yes we are war monsters, you were right to punish us with a nuclear annihilation, sorry master" I already see them spit upon on a daily basis because the don't conform to the USA global empire. I feel like I want to shield them from the anti-culture virus, but I fear the humble Japanese will hara-kire. They are already jumping off cliffs in large numbers. I wonder if the human sacrifice blood rain will be enough to feed G.I. Joe.

They are the only country to feel a nuclear strike, and at the time the was no fear of MAD. So they were free to use it.

Yes I know this sounds like crazy rambling, but I fear a monoculture and would be a boring state of the world. My opinion is wrong.


..For the sake of pride?

And the nation of Japan was the one who refused to give in no matter what. They pretty much left America with no other option because of their own stubbornness. I'm not defending the bombs, but they weren't the only bad thing like Japan loves to make them out to be.

After all, how many millions of innocents did Japan torture and murder in cruel ways, yet still deny or downplay to this day?

Then we get people like you who say they cannot stand the thought of Japan losing their pride. Losing their pride for something they should have apologized for years and years ago, like all the other countries did.

Your comment is disgusting.
Posted 5/14/13

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AruarianDance wrote:

wartime comfort does sound very comfy though. mhmm....


Since when is rape comfort?

You do know that hordes of Japanese soldiers repeatedly raped ONE women? Several women reported that they were raped 100's of times per day by a LOT of soldiers over and over with no break in between.

Wartime comfort sounds so comfy indeed.


why do you have to use red block text. And my post was serious that's right.
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...... And my post was serious that's right.

I am sure that if you volunteer, that a line will form for you to experience the woman's comfort in the situation. You can post seriously if you were correct or not that they were comfortable.
Posted 5/14/13 , edited 5/14/13

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AruarianDance wrote:

...... And my post was serious that's right.

I am sure that if you volunteer, that a line will form for you to experience the woman's comfort in the situation. You can post seriously if you were correct or not that they were comfortable.


Ok, cheers.

OT: The Japanese were brutal as fuck during the war. That was bad, this guy excusing it is bad and every other government which hides the brutality they committed is just as bad.
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