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The most "otaku" anime you know of?
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Clarification: I am using the word "otaku" in regards to Japanese society, not the Western term that's just "big anime fan".

Most of us are aware that anime can often pander to certain demographics (i.e. military otaku, BL fans, meganekko appeal, etc.). These can range from subtle "in-jokes" and undertones to very obvious content.

Have you ever seen an anime that takes its demographic fanservice to a level of direct pandering to its specific audience?
What is the most otaku-pandering anime you know? What characteristics made it this way?
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I'd point out anything with a medium to large cast of attractive high school girls with a range of selectable personalities and body types that also lacks a notable male presence or parental authority figure. K-On is a pretty obvious one.
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I'm sure there's better examples, but some of the best are:

Lucky Star
Seitokai no Ichizon
Nichijou
Genshiken
Haganai
Welcome to the NHK
Mawaru Penguindrum
FLCL
Humanity has Declined
Most things by Akiyuki Shinbo (Monogatari, Zetsubou Sensei, Hidamari Sketch, etc.) -- not so much pandering as poking fun at otakus, almost seems like a form of self-deprecation with this guy.

I can't tell for sure whether or not you're using the word "pandering" with a negative tone, but I just want to make clear that I'm defining "pandering" as "appealing to a specific audience," which I don't think is a bad thing. It can be done very badly, but it's not necessarily bad that a work focuses only on one (or a few) demographics. Usually when I see a "bad show that panders," I do the same thing I do when I see a "bad show" -- I forget about it. So naturally, the shows I've listed are ones I like. If you're looking for shows that make a gross effort to try to appeal to a certain audience because the show is bad right off the bat, and they want to make some money by making a specific group feel special, then I'm afraid I will need to put some effort into remembering. Also, most of the shows listed mainly "pander" to anime otaku -- I can't think of many "other-type otaku" shows. This might be because I just don't see the pandering because I'm not a member of the demographic being pandered to. I think the only other type of otaku I might be is a "math otaku," which doesn't make for a very interesting story. lol.
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Sasami-san@Ganbaranai in a way pandered to almost every otaku fetish in existence, but its commentary on otaku culture is kind of what made it so genius. It's also by Akiyuki Shinbo, so what theYchromosome said about him applies here, as well.

Here's an almost-exhaustive list of the otaku elements covered

and that was all in 12 episodes, lol
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there's quite a few of animes that use otaku as a negative undertone. I'm not going to list the most, because I'd rather not tap into my memory bank right now as I'd have to go through several animes for a subtle theme.


But seeing as most of my choices have been said, I'd like to tack on:

nogizaka haruka no himitsu
oreimo
HOTD
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Not really a otaku but Heaven's Memo Pad is pretty good.
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first posters always get the best choices

seitokai no yakuindomo
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AnimeKami wrote:

first posters always get the best choices

seitokai no yakuindomo


Sorry, I rarely get the chance to ruin things for everyone else, so I tend to go all-out when I receive an opportunity.
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theYchromosome wrote:


I can't tell for sure whether or not you're using the word "pandering" with a negative tone, but I just want to make clear that I'm defining "pandering" as "appealing to a specific audience," which I don't think is a bad thing. It can be done very badly, but it's not necessarily bad that a work focuses only on one (or a few) demographics.


I wasn't referring to "pandering" in a negative light. I guess it could seem that way, though, with the very nature of the question itself.

I definitely agree with your definition of pandering, and it was definitely closest to what I was trying to get at in the original post.

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deshicray wrote:

Not really a otaku but Heaven's Memo Pad is pretty good.

I could see this; especially with the involvement of NEET characters (so same with Eden of the East, I guess).

I did want to say I thought Kamisama Memo-chou was really good though, just in case anyone seeing this thought of its inclusion as a negative. Some of the story arcs were as close to Holy Land as any anime I've seen, which I'll cling to desperately until that manga gets an anime adaptation (if it ever does - I'm not sure if it will - wish it would though).
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Oreimo.
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Genshiken
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Lucky Star
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Already mentioned by others, but Oreimo, Lucky Star, and Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu (didn't get to finish the second season before it disappeared off CR) come first to my mind. These all have cute/attractive main heroines who are overt otaku, and shown in a generally good light, often with a fairly explicit message proclaiming that otaku are just misunderstood normal (or even exceptionally great) people engaging in their hobby of choice. Incidentally, while Oreimo's Kirino gets a fair bit of condemnation for her mean attitude, I hear she's a very very popular character in Japan.

Incidentally, the word "pandering" really does have a negative connotation when properly used, I believe. It's to furnish means to fulfill another's desire, with the implication that this desire is base, vulgar, sinful, etc... "Appealing" would be a more neutral term.
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Kind of a tough question. The first thing that comes to mind are KyoAni's moe shows like K-On! and more recently Tamako's Market and Chuunibyou.

But I think my real answer is

Haruhi Suzumiya-Full of moe, references to shows and video games, and is just a big party from anime fans

Ouran High School Host Club-Full of so much manservice that I'm almost embarrassed to say that this almost makes my top 10

Lucky Star-More cute girls and anime references out the wazoo. Like every few scenes.

and..

Bakemonogatari-Also full of references with a cast of likeable females, awesome animation, fanservice everywhere.
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