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Posted 5/16/13 , edited 5/16/13

RoyalMoon wrote:

I keep receiving this error page every time I try viewing Madoka.



I do live in the UK so this might be a region restriction. But you'd think they'd do a better job of telling you that it's blocked because of region restrictions.

Yeah that's a region restriction... Madoka, SAO and Lupin are all blocked for Australia, I'm not sure about other countries.
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TheAncientOne wrote:

A request after you receive your registration: Can you copy and paste or screen grab the list on anime on the voting page? Apparently you can't access it again after you've voted and it would be nice to have a record of it, since AFAIK, some of those titles have never been legally streamed. (i.e. After War Gundam X, Armored Trooper VOTOMS, Banner of Stars, Crest of Stars). I am hoping they actually have access to all those, and are simply trying to determine which to give priority to getting posted first.

BTW, got my registration email moments later so either it is fixed or just a quiet time now.

Vote page right now:



Which of these anime would you like to watch?

Ai Shite Night
Dr. Slump
Kinnikuman
STOP!! HIBARI!
Tiger Mask II
009-1
A Channel
A Summer-Colored Miracle
After War Gundam X
Aikatsu!
AIRMASTER
Android Kikaider
Angel Beats!
ANGEL LINKS
anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day
ARGENTOSOMA
ARMORED HUNTER MELLOWLINK
ARMORED POLICE METALJACK
ARMORED TROOPER VOTOMS
ASATARO, THE ONION SAMURAI
AURA BATTLER DUNBINE
AYAKASHI - JAPANESE CLASSIC HORROR: YOTSUYA KAIDAN, TENSHU STORY, BAKENEKO
AZUMI MAMMAMIA
Baccano!
Bakemonogatari
BAKUMATSU KIKANSETSU I-RO-HA-NI-HO-HE-TO
BANNER OF THE STÅRS
BATTLE SPIRITS
BEAT X
BEET, THE VANDEL BUSTER
BETTERMAN
BIKKURI MAN
Birdy the Mighty
Black Butler
Blast of Tempest
BLOOD+
BLUE COMET SPT LAZNER
Blue Exorcist
BLUE GALE XABUNGLE
BOBOBO-BO BO-BOBO
BRAIN POWERED
BRAVE EXPRESS MIGHTGAINE
BRAVE FIGHTER EXKIZER
BRAVE OF THE LEGEND DA・GARN
BRAVE OF THE SUN FIGHBIRD
BRAVE POLICE J-DECKER
BRIGADOON - Marin & Melan -
Captain Tsubasa J
Chō Denei-ban SD Gundam Sangokuden Brave Battle Warriors
CHO MASHIN HERO WATARU
CITY HUNTER
CLUSTER EDGE
CODE GEASS Lelouch of the Rebellion
COMMAND OF BRAVES DAGWON
Cowboy Bebop
CRAYON KINGDOM
CREST OF THE STARS
CRUSH GEAR NITRO
CRUSH GEAR TURBO
CRUSHER JOE
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Posted 5/16/13

llamaben wrote:


RoyalMoon wrote:

I keep receiving this error page every time I try viewing Madoka.



I do live in the UK so this might be a region restriction. But you'd think they'd do a better job of telling you that it's blocked because of region restrictions.

Yeah that's a region restriction... Madoka, SAO and Lupin are all blocked for Australia, I'm not sure about other countries.

Those are all blocked here too. I would love for Bakemonogatari to be put up there so that I could watch it legally in the UK, but if some titles are region-locked, I'm not sure what the point is of me voting for a title for them to put up, since I may not be able to watch it.
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I don't understand their business model if they don't have any sort of subscription. Squeezing people per episode of a show is a wonderful way to drive people away, unless of course you can download it and "own" it. I can't even check out of what I'm saying is true as the sites been down everytime I tried to use it

Edit: Whats with the region locking? lol

Wasn't this service supposed to be international?
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Posted 5/16/13

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I don't understand their business model if they don't have any sort of subscription. Squeezing people per episode of a show is a wonderful way to drive people away, unless of course you can download it and "own" it. I can't even check out of what I'm saying is true as the sites been down everytime I tried to use it

Edit: Whats with the region locking? lol

Wasn't this service supposed to be international?

Buying episodes of streaming video is how I've watched several of my favorite not-anime shows (e.g. Dexter, Breaking Bad). It depends on how much I like the show and how much they charge per episode. I prefer not to have a lot of physical stuff, and I don't do a lot of re-watching, so having episodes I've paid for access to, even without downloading, is a good solution for me.

I do realize that's not good for everyone though. I guess they'll find out whether or not there are enough of us to support them. They may be also relying on their free content to bring in money from related product sales.

I was surprised to hear about the region locking too. The (admittedly not all that much) stuff I had read did imply there wouldn't be much locked outside of Japan.


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Finally got the site working. Man Japan really needs to learn less is more in website design. Such a haphazard mess

In process of exploring now, lets see if it at least beats Funimations sad excuse for a streaming service.
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Posted 5/16/13
Some of the advertising they use is rather out there.

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tommythecat wrote: I don't understand their business model if they don't have any sort of subscription. Squeezing people per episode of a show is a wonderful way to drive people away, unless of course you can download it and "own" it. I can't even check out of what I'm saying is true as the sites been down everytime I tried to use it

Business model seems to be ad-supported streaming, some premium pay per view, and merchandise sales. The pay per view details are a little fuzzy right now, since they don't have any premium shows yet, so we don't know if it will be per series or per episode.

Since they are Japanese based, the pay by episode / series is likely to be pay for streaming access rather than downloads, since customers in Japan have been trained to accept pay for streaming access. That could be a speed bump for Daisuki, since pay for episode / series access in the US is mostly on cable, with pay for download more common for Western Internet pay by episode / series (PSN, Xbox Live, Vudu, Amazon, Google, B&N's Nook Video).

Note that the advertising is likely to be light in the early period as they build up their advertising book.


Edit: Whats with the region locking? lol

Wasn't this service supposed to be international?

If someone has exclusive streaming rights for a country, then they can't stream to that country. The interesting point will be whether Latin America and the Nordic Countries get access to series that have to be blocked in Oz because of Madman or Siren, or the UK because of MangaUK or Kaze.
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Daisuki has stated in many interviews that their series will be available worldwide with only some exceptions in some areas. "Finally a streaming site that will take worldwide availability seriously" I thought.

Daisuki is finally live now and... I've never been so disappointed in my entire life. Half of the series are blocked in the entire world except USA and Canada. How is that "some exceptions in some areas"?

The region locked series (Madoka, SAO and Lupin) aren't licensed in most countries so the region locking isn't necessary. It's once again done out of habit. A habit that I was expecting the shareholders of Daisuki to finally break with.

It looks like Daisuki's shareholders aren't willing to cooperate with making their series worldwide available. So Daisuki probably won't be the worldwide streaming solution that many anime fans outside US and Canada were hoping for.
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Posted 5/16/13

koningdavid wrote:

Daisuki has stated in many interviews that their series will be available worldwide with only some exceptions in some areas. "Finally a streaming site that will take worldwide availability seriously" I thought.

Daisuki is finally live now and... I've never been so disappointed in my entire life. Half of the series are blocked in the entire world except USA and Canada. How is that "some exceptions in some areas"?

The region locked series (Madoka, SAO and Lupin) aren't licensed in most countries so the region locking isn't necessary. It's once again done out of habit.

We actually can't tell series by series what's "necessary", since it depends on how contracts are written, and all of these series have already been released, with contract terms that were not written with Daisuki in mind. And so we can't tell whether Daisuki will make a difference until it starts running simulcasts, which can have the contracts written with Daisuki in mind.

Which series ARE available in the Netherlands?
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Just signed up there, not liking it or disliking it yet since it was only released today. I really don't like how they make you look up shows by company and then its listed by episodes, its a lot of hoops to jump through. Their website seems too busy and confusing as well. Other things don't route you back to the home page like when you finish the survey its a white page with small letters that say thank you and you have to click on the logo in the top right corner. Not a big deal but not pleasing to use either. I hope they improve it would be nice for more anime services out there but for now I will stick solely to Crunchyroll.
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Just signed up there, not liking it or disliking it yet since it was only released today. I really don't like how they make you look up shows by company and then its listed by episodes, its a lot of hoops to jump through. Their website seems too busy and confusing as well. Other things don't route you back to the home page like when you finish the survey its a white page with small letters that say thank you and you have to click on the logo in the top right corner. Not a big deal but not pleasing to use either. I hope they improve it would be nice for more anime services out there but for now I will stick solely to Crunchyroll.


Yeah they need a lot of "quality of life" issues ironed out on their website structure, layout, and styling if they want to make it a hit. Right now it's convoluted, haphazard, and a little messy. I wont judge them yet but I hope to see improvements as time passes, unlike Funimation who just gave up.
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Posted 5/16/13
The only anime I might watch on that site wold be the old school Gundam series and SEED remastered. That's it though, their site's videos sucks and lags quite a bit.

Oh and I do hope I win one of those F/Z figures lol. 12 of them to be handed out so might have a small chance.
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agila61 wrote:
We actually can't tell series by series what's "necessary", since it depends on how contracts are written, and all of these series have already been released, with contract terms that were not written with Daisuki in mind. And so we can't tell whether Daisuki will make a difference until it starts running simulcasts, which can have the contracts written with Daisuki in mind.

I wonder what kind of contract blocks the series for the Netherlands. No company has licensed the series here. It's also peculiar that these contract never create problems for the US and Canada but always create problems for other countries.

Anyway, It's a horrible way for Daisuki to start. Since many anime fans outside US and Canada have been annoyed with region restrictions for many years, it's important that a new streaming site that wants to stream worldwide makes these anime fans feel welcome. Starting out with half of the series locked to US and Canada is not really a good way to do that. They should have started with other series that can be streamed worldwide.

Which series ARE available in the Netherlands?

The remaining series on Daisuki: The prince of tennis and the two Gundam series. As for Madoka, SAO, and Lupin III, they aren't available in the Netherlands in any way, shape or form and they probably never will be. The "local" publishers only bring us about one anime series a year.
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The only thing I can say is fck region restrictions for us Latins and everyone else outside the US and Canada, but already expected that to happen, only thing they want to get 3 million or 5 million in 3 years or something I really can't remember because I was at work when I read that, but if they are going to go with restrictions it will be hard, I know demand must be high even with limited titles for them to look at us but well only thing I wish, and hope is same as with CR, that they remember there is a BIGGER market outside the US and Canada, so being easier for them to release content, please release content equally for everyone, but only time will tell
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