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Posted 5/26/13

hiya34 wrote:
No I will admit that some teachings of the kuran, bible etc. are useful in todays society. The problem is that people take the teachings WAYYY too far.


I agree. But sometimes I feel like that there are some people on the other side that take their believes 'way too far' as well. - I think it's just within human nature to aggressive defend oneselves' believes, no matter religion or nationalism, political leanings, etc. But I'm getting off topic. XD
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Posted 5/26/13

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hiya34 wrote:
No I will admit that some teachings of the kuran, bible etc. are useful in todays society. The problem is that people take the teachings WAYYY too far.


I agree. But sometimes I feel like that there are some people on the other side that take their believes 'way too far' as well. - I think it's just within human nature to aggressive defend oneselves' believes, no matter religion or nationalism, political leanings, etc. But I'm getting off topic. XD


You guys could always discuss this in the general discussion thread if you feel you are getting off topic.
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Posted 5/28/13 , edited 5/28/13
I disagree with the whole "Religion vs Science" thing. There are many "religious" scientists, even among the most elite scientists. After all, the field of science came about via the whole Protestant revolution.

There are some atheists who believe science has proven there is no God. That is simply arrogance. You can say "I don't think there is a God" but you cannot prove it. God is stated in an non-falsifiable way (He reveals Himself to whom he wills, therefore, he can conceal Himself from whom He wills) and is outside of the realm of science. Others say evolution has disproven Christianity. First of all, science does not have enough proof that we came from nonliving things, yet many believe. Many evolutionists believe we come from mermaids, which to me, seems kinda silly. In addition, many believe Genesis is metaphorical. I could go on about how science and religion do not conflict, but I don't wanna write too much! lol
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Pantheism is the most powerful religion of all time
Hinduism is the oldest religion of all time
Zionism is the most evil religion of all time
Christianity is really a corrupted religion.
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Posted 6/9/13

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I disagree with the whole "Religion vs Science" thing. There are many "religious" scientists, even among the most elite scientists. After all, the field of science came about via the whole Protestant revolution.

There are some atheists who believe science has proven there is no God. That is simply arrogance. You can say "I don't think there is a God" but you cannot prove it. God is stated in an non-falsifiable way (He reveals Himself to whom he wills, therefore, he can conceal Himself from whom He wills) and is outside of the realm of science. Others say evolution has disproven Christianity. First of all, science does not have enough proof that we came from nonliving things, yet many believe. Many evolutionists believe we come from mermaids, which to me, seems kinda silly. In addition, many believe Genesis is metaphorical. I could go on about how science and religion do not conflict, but I don't wanna write too much! lol


Yea.... religious scientists are full of crap. The two completely contradict each other. You literally cannot believe in both religion and science.
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Posted 6/16/13

hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:

I disagree with the whole "Religion vs Science" thing. There are many "religious" scientists, even among the most elite scientists. After all, the field of science came about via the whole Protestant revolution.

There are some atheists who believe science has proven there is no God. That is simply arrogance. You can say "I don't think there is a God" but you cannot prove it. God is stated in an non-falsifiable way (He reveals Himself to whom he wills, therefore, he can conceal Himself from whom He wills) and is outside of the realm of science. Others say evolution has disproven Christianity. First of all, science does not have enough proof that we came from nonliving things, yet many believe. Many evolutionists believe we come from mermaids, which to me, seems kinda silly. In addition, many believe Genesis is metaphorical. I could go on about how science and religion do not conflict, but I don't wanna write too much! lol


Yea.... religious scientists are full of crap. The two completely contradict each other. You literally cannot believe in both religion and science.


Well there is a well-thought out reply. Explain why even among the most elite scientists there are still ones who believe in God? If they are "full of crap" how are they in the top of their respective fields?

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Posted 6/16/13 , edited 6/16/13

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hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:

I disagree with the whole "Religion vs Science" thing. There are many "religious" scientists, even among the most elite scientists. After all, the field of science came about via the whole Protestant revolution.

There are some atheists who believe science has proven there is no God. That is simply arrogance. You can say "I don't think there is a God" but you cannot prove it. God is stated in an non-falsifiable way (He reveals Himself to whom he wills, therefore, he can conceal Himself from whom He wills) and is outside of the realm of science. Others say evolution has disproven Christianity. First of all, science does not have enough proof that we came from nonliving things, yet many believe. Many evolutionists believe we come from mermaids, which to me, seems kinda silly. In addition, many believe Genesis is metaphorical. I could go on about how science and religion do not conflict, but I don't wanna write too much! lol


Yea.... religious scientists are full of crap. The two completely contradict each other. You literally cannot believe in both religion and science.


Well there is a well-thought out reply. Explain why even among the most elite scientists there are still ones who believe in God? If they are "full of crap" how are they in the top of their respective fields?



Give me the data man. If I actually saw some names, I might actually believe that.
Religion goes against the scientific method, you can not remain a self respecting scientist and still be religious at the same time.
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Posted 6/17/13 , edited 6/17/13

hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:

I disagree with the whole "Religion vs Science" thing. There are many "religious" scientists, even among the most elite scientists. After all, the field of science came about via the whole Protestant revolution.

There are some atheists who believe science has proven there is no God. That is simply arrogance. You can say "I don't think there is a God" but you cannot prove it. God is stated in an non-falsifiable way (He reveals Himself to whom he wills, therefore, he can conceal Himself from whom He wills) and is outside of the realm of science. Others say evolution has disproven Christianity. First of all, science does not have enough proof that we came from nonliving things, yet many believe. Many evolutionists believe we come from mermaids, which to me, seems kinda silly. In addition, many believe Genesis is metaphorical. I could go on about how science and religion do not conflict, but I don't wanna write too much! lol


Yea.... religious scientists are full of crap. The two completely contradict each other. You literally cannot believe in both religion and science.


Unless...., You say everything in science was created by god, but God is such a great mystery even science can't crack the case. because god is beyond our comprehension, we are just not meant to understand other than knowing that god is just there. However when we die we will know!?!?!?

That is the case them scientists try to make is it not? I'm sure they have some more elaborate and sophisticated reasoning than I have presented.
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Posted 6/17/13

Zeta-Nu wrote:

Pantheism is the most powerful religion of all time
Hinduism is the oldest religion of all time
Zionism is the most evil religion of all time
Christianity is really a corrupted religion.


How is Christianity a corrupted religion? Could you explain, I don't want a debate as I am not a christian, I am just curious as to why?
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Posted 6/18/13 , edited 6/18/13

hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:


hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:

I disagree with the whole "Religion vs Science" thing. There are many "religious" scientists, even among the most elite scientists. After all, the field of science came about via the whole Protestant revolution.

There are some atheists who believe science has proven there is no God. That is simply arrogance. You can say "I don't think there is a God" but you cannot prove it. God is stated in an non-falsifiable way (He reveals Himself to whom he wills, therefore, he can conceal Himself from whom He wills) and is outside of the realm of science. Others say evolution has disproven Christianity. First of all, science does not have enough proof that we came from nonliving things, yet many believe. Many evolutionists believe we come from mermaids, which to me, seems kinda silly. In addition, many believe Genesis is metaphorical. I could go on about how science and religion do not conflict, but I don't wanna write too much! lol


Yea.... religious scientists are full of crap. The two completely contradict each other. You literally cannot believe in both religion and science.


Well there is a well-thought out reply. Explain why even among the most elite scientists there are still ones who believe in God? If they are "full of crap" how are they in the top of their respective fields?



Give me the data man. If I actually saw some names, I might actually believe that.
Religion goes against the scientific method, you can not remain a self respecting scientist and still be religious at the same time.



According to this study: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1525/sp.2007.54.2.289?uid=3739256&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102124480973
This study states that while disbelief is increasing among scientists, is not yet extinguished. Those with PHDs in physics are among the sciences with the highest percentage of disbelief.

Likewise, also look at this: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-5906.2011.01586.x/abstract
According to that study, a minority of scientists even perceive a real conflict between science and religion.

I'm guessing you are a follower of Dawkins? Well in his book "The God Delusion" he either lied, or was misinformed, as he says that there is no historical evidence of Jesus, while in actuality, almost all historians of that era believe he existed. (whether or not He was God is another question, but this serves to show mistakes with Dawkins)

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Posted 6/18/13 , edited 6/18/13

Kenshin_san wrote:


hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:


hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:

I disagree with the whole "Religion vs Science" thing. There are many "religious" scientists, even among the most elite scientists. After all, the field of science came about via the whole Protestant revolution.

There are some atheists who believe science has proven there is no God. That is simply arrogance. You can say "I don't think there is a God" but you cannot prove it. God is stated in an non-falsifiable way (He reveals Himself to whom he wills, therefore, he can conceal Himself from whom He wills) and is outside of the realm of science. Others say evolution has disproven Christianity. First of all, science does not have enough proof that we came from nonliving things, yet many believe. Many evolutionists believe we come from mermaids, which to me, seems kinda silly. In addition, many believe Genesis is metaphorical. I could go on about how science and religion do not conflict, but I don't wanna write too much! lol


Yea.... religious scientists are full of crap. The two completely contradict each other. You literally cannot believe in both religion and science.


Well there is a well-thought out reply. Explain why even among the most elite scientists there are still ones who believe in God? If they are "full of crap" how are they in the top of their respective fields?



Give me the data man. If I actually saw some names, I might actually believe that.
Religion goes against the scientific method, you can not remain a self respecting scientist and still be religious at the same time.



According to this study: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1525/sp.2007.54.2.289?uid=3739256&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102124480973
This study states that while disbelief is increasing among scientists, is not yet extinguished. Those with PHDs in physics are among the sciences with the highest percentage of disbelief.

Likewise, also look at this: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-5906.2011.01586.x/abstract
According to that study, a minority of scientists even perceive a real conflict between science and religion.

I'm guessing you are a follower of Dawkins? Well in his book "The God Dillusion" he either lied, or was misinformed, as he says that there is no historical evidence of Jesus, while in actuality, almost all historians of that era believe he existed. (whether or not He was God is another question, but this serves to show mistakes with Dawkins)



Were they all Roman historians by any chance....?
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Kenshin_san wrote:


hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:


hiya34 wrote:


Kenshin_san wrote:

I disagree with the whole "Religion vs Science" thing. There are many "religious" scientists, even among the most elite scientists. After all, the field of science came about via the whole Protestant revolution.

There are some atheists who believe science has proven there is no God. That is simply arrogance. You can say "I don't think there is a God" but you cannot prove it. God is stated in an non-falsifiable way (He reveals Himself to whom he wills, therefore, he can conceal Himself from whom He wills) and is outside of the realm of science. Others say evolution has disproven Christianity. First of all, science does not have enough proof that we came from nonliving things, yet many believe. Many evolutionists believe we come from mermaids, which to me, seems kinda silly. In addition, many believe Genesis is metaphorical. I could go on about how science and religion do not conflict, but I don't wanna write too much! lol


Yea.... religious scientists are full of crap. The two completely contradict each other. You literally cannot believe in both religion and science.


Well there is a well-thought out reply. Explain why even among the most elite scientists there are still ones who believe in God? If they are "full of crap" how are they in the top of their respective fields?



Give me the data man. If I actually saw some names, I might actually believe that.
Religion goes against the scientific method, you can not remain a self respecting scientist and still be religious at the same time.



According to this study: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1525/sp.2007.54.2.289?uid=3739256&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102124480973
This study states that while disbelief is increasing among scientists, is not yet extinguished. Those with PHDs in physics are among the sciences with the highest percentage of disbelief.

Likewise, also look at this: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-5906.2011.01586.x/abstract
According to that study, a minority of scientists even perceive a real conflict between science and religion.

I'm guessing you are a follower of Dawkins? Well in his book "The God Delusion" he either lied, or was misinformed, as he says that there is no historical evidence of Jesus, while in actuality, almost all historians of that era believe he existed. (whether or not He was God is another question, but this serves to show mistakes with Dawkins)



Were they all Roman historians by any chance....?


No no, I mean modern historians who specialize in that time period.

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