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Posted 6/6/13
one in the million chance to get the happy ending XD

anyways nice boat had a nice life before boarding the boat...

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eightcar wrote:


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phiregirl wrote:

I must be the only one who didn't hate Makoto.


This needs elaboration. STAT.


True, this needs elaboration as I have posted in the past that I don't hate Makoto either.

After all he only did what almost EVERY horny teenage boy would have done in the same situation! (I know horny and teenaged boy is redundant)

I admit if I was in high school, I SURELY what have did what he did, but as I am now more mature (and hopefully wiser), I would NOT now.

It amazes me the number of people here who express this phony self-righteousness about Makoto.

The problem is no-one would want to actually ADMIT that they would've just taken what the girls were willingly and excessively letting him have especially at that age!


You're generalizing a bit too far.

Yes...teenage boys are really hormone driven but you're not giving them enough credit. There's a point at which it varies from person to person.

Makoto is probably a worst case scenario. Zero empathy for his commitments (which mean little in High School sure, but it is what it is), and a complete disregard for their feelings. At the end he was just cycling through girls and that's a terrible habit to have, and it is not in fact natural. It's almost insulting you'd insinuate that every high school guy is capable of such a thing because I certainly was not (and it wasn't because I was limited by my looks or anything). I definitely was not nearly as flippant about who to get serious with, especially with girlfriends involved. Most guys I knew wouldn't so easily cheat on their girlfriends...so I'm not sure what crowd you stuck around. I'm not lying to you to make myself feel better, that's just the reality of it.

You might have done what he did, and you'd still be a jackass, it doesn't matter how common it is for "teenage boys" (I guess this is a species) to do it.


Makoto's one big fault was in not understanding the heart and motivations of teenage girls. I don't think this lack of understanding, or his actions, was just cause for what happened to him. Females tend to be of the opinion the two timing jerk got what he deserved, but it takes two to tango and there are plenty of female jerks in this anime too. If anyone deserved what they got I would have to say it was Sekai.
Uh..."it takes two to tango" is not a properly equipped tagline to defend Makoto. It barely fits (if at all).

Makoto's fault was having serious character flaws (maybe something to do with the lack of existence of parents at all in this anime?) that resulted in him having an incredible lack of human empathy. Some people are not nearly as capable as he was (no matter the age) of hurting someones feelings so innately without giving a shit.

Sheesh Ioreen, you loved the endless eight, and you liked Makoto.

What planet are you from?
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Makoto is a certifiable sociopath.
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smoledman wrote:

Makoto is a certifiable sociopath.


Excellently put. Not even really an exaggeration, he truly does meet the qualifications for a sociopathic diagnosis.
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Posted 6/17/13
It is always rough in this thread, just like the show!
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Posted 6/17/13
the whole show is makoto f-ing his problems until the end. the end was the best part.
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I think this show was great and I put it off because a lot of people complained about the ending. I thought the ending was perfect and it tied the whole series together. I could not see it end any other way honestly.
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drake3716 wrote:

I think this show was great and I put it off because a lot of people complained about the ending. I thought the ending was perfect and it tied the whole series together. I could not see it end any other way honestly.


You should play the game and try getting all 21 endings.
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Evilshadowx wrote:


drake3716 wrote:

I think this show was great and I put it off because a lot of people complained about the ending. I thought the ending was perfect and it tied the whole series together. I could not see it end any other way honestly.


You should play the game and try getting all 21 endings.


It was a game?? Sounds like the creator just liked to many options.

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It's an eroge game.

You can find all the sex scenes if you google hard enough.
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zipzo wrote:

It's an eroge game.

You can find all the sex scenes if you google hard enough.


I may have to Google my Sunday away, but my mind needs time to be put back together from being blown.
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drake3716 wrote:


zipzo wrote:

It's an eroge game.

You can find all the sex scenes if you google hard enough.


I may have to Google my Sunday away, but my mind needs time to be put back together from being blown.


Not sure how to interpret this sentence...

In any case...School Days is a shit anime.
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The level of stupidity of the characters is what make it bad. I actually don't hate the series, but it does get on your nerves as you watch it.
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The level of stupidity of the characters is what make it bad. I actually don't hate the series, but it does get on your nerves as you watch it.


I thought the whole point of this anime was to get under your skin and the level of stupidity is exactly the same as some people in real life. I saw people back stab each other for one guy that was a total dick and a douche bag. So far no one has said anything that has actual meaning of why you hate this anime. Ever one is just saying this anime is shit, but gives no explanation.
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drake3716 wrote:


dalmain wrote:

The level of stupidity of the characters is what make it bad. I actually don't hate the series, but it does get on your nerves as you watch it.


I thought the whole point of this anime was to get under your skin and the level of stupidity is exactly the same as some people in real life. I saw people back stab each other for one guy that was a total dick and a douche bag. So far no one has said anything that has actual meaning of why you hate this anime. Ever one is just saying this anime is shit, but gives no explanation.


School days doesn't even deserve the kind of effort it takes to properly describe how shit it is, that's probably why, but clearly you aren't paying attention because I wrote quite a few lengthy and detailed posts on why with plenty of explanation right on page 6.

When I was half way through it...


I'm currently now on Episode 6 and I plan to finish it within the next few hours.

What I can say so far is that I corroborate with the popular opinion on Makoto. He definitely thinks with the wrong head (which isn't uncommon for boys his age) and there are so many cringe-worthy moments that are completely his fault, but to be honest I can't say there aren't cringe-worthy moments lingering from my high school love life. That being said, I can't really agree that it's unrealistic for a teenage boy to be as unlikable a main character as he is so far.

More to the point I think the real question is: is it a good ingredient for an entertaining anime? Just because it's a realistic situation doesn't mean we all want to spend our valuable time watching such a story play out under the guise that what we're seeing or what we'll end up seeing will in conclusion be a fulfilling anime in and of itself. Forbidden romance is one thing, and I think they are doing at least a good job weaving that kind of story, but cheating makes it hard to sympathize, and with the main character no less. Make the main character so unlikable and you have the perfect ingredients for a show that becomes torturous to watch since who else do you see more of, hear the thoughts of, and seemingly are forced to care about when you'd rather just drop him like a rock? It doesn't even seem as though his motives for getting with his "real" love are even honest, so once can only assume that extreme distaste for the main character is what they're aiming for. Either that, or the writers are pretty dumb if they think we're still on his side, haha. It's painful to hear almost every point of dialogue that comes out of his mouth.

At this point I'm drearily pushing the next button with a bit of an "ugh do I have to" feeling, and it didn't take long for the show itself to reach that point. I was already sort of wary of the show and now the concept it's running with, but I am going to finish it and I'll have my complete thoughts ready once the the whole thing concludes and I see the holy-cow-ending in a couple hours. At least I'm essentially prepared for anything so I won't have to put a hole through something.


...and when I finished it...


Oh where to begin. Firstly, this anime makes high school girls like baaaaaaaaad. The amount of girls he ended up sleeping with by the end of the show was just a laughable statistic, and even more hilarious is that there was no seemingly sensible reason he seemed to be so damn fortunate, but whatever. We get past that because he's the male lead in the oddest "harem" we've all ever seen so the adoration towards him doesn't need explanation, right? All in all I am satisfied by the ending if only because Makoto is dead. It's not that I'd wish death on an actual human who did such things, but given that he's an anime character I really shoulder no guilt in admitting that I smirked a bit as he was getting poked.

Now, as an anime, my feelings are coarsely different. If the creators of this show were actually serious as they let this air on television, I'd have two important things I want to let them know.

A. A terrible "protagonist" makes a terrible show. If we don't like the character that arguably gets the most screen time, how can we possibly like the show at all? It's arguably his narrative more than the other characters (though occasionally we get depressive lying in bed shots from Sekai and home activities from Kotonoha). The logic here in my opinion is absolute, there's just no sensibility in purposely creating a lead character that we are meant to hate from the bottom up unless he's to at least redeem himself later on. He doesn't even win as an anti-hero, he's just an awfully written character who brings down the entire show. I actually thought the the Kotonoha VS Seka stuff was...admittedly engaging. Although brought on by Makoto in the first place, there was a decent amount of thrill to be had by watching the girls themselves come face to face over their issues. Then you remember it's over Makoto and everything just falls apart in your mind. Makoto is at the root of every single reason why this anime is bad.

B. A terrible entire cast makes a terrible show even more terrible. I've seen supporting characters save a show. I really have. I think the only character I could ever get my head around was Setsuna. She seemed to act most outright to her feelings (and maybe that Taisuke guy who probably lynched himself after that conversation with Kotonoha). There was close to zero substance in any of the other characters, who's one dimensional purpose all seemed to be either to piss off Kotonoha or sleep with Makoto. This made any scene not involving Sekai or Kotonoha a boring mess.

The problems with this anime are largely character based, or maybe solely. I actually do not have much of an issue accepting the yandere ending, but at this point we already didn't care about any of them dying. That's a problem. Ideally we would need to be shocked by their death because we cared for the character, not shocked simply because, uh, random.

Around the halfway point, Makoto literally becomes an empty shell. He barely even speaks when the girls go at it. This is probably an element of his character (being a coward, yes, I let out some angst), and it's probably for the best because opening his mouth never did anyone any good but pissing us all off, but the anime utterly stops revolving around him, and becomes about the girls. It actually was better this way. The show began to suck basically any time Makoto lowered his jaw. Sekai probably had the best role in the show. Let's face it, while she was guilty of her own missteps, the situation she was in is not all that uncommon for girls, in my opinion.

I've seen some comments that say that School Days is good because it shows us that not all endings are happy. Uh...yeah, and not all grass is green, and not all kool-aid is red. That doesn't really excuse School Days from having an awful narrative and an absolutely grating set of characters to push said awful narrative. As an anime it falls short (more like doesn't even seem to try) on so many levels and seems to fall back on a big shocking ending to pull its weight or make it memorable but it failed miserably. Attack on Titan has a more shocking ending to each of their individual episodes than School Days does to their entire set of episodes. That might not be a fair comparison since they are different genre's but even from a Romance perspective...it just wasn't believable (or likable).

All in all I felt it was worth watching so that I could see what the hub was all about, so while I will forever push that anime down in to the deepest pit of my shit list as one of the worst anime I've ever seen grace my TV, I at least don't regret the time I spent making sure I knew exactly why everyone hated School Days.


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