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Posted 11/19/13 , edited 11/19/13

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I could have already started ordering this, I'd really love to own the collector's editions of this anime...but over $100 for half a season? No...if it was 12 episodes, I'd probably get it...the entire 25 episodes and it would be a done deal without a second thought.

But as it is? Too expensive, even if I have the money on hand.


This is what Aniplex does with all their releases. It would cost about $90 to own Madoka's complete series... on standard DVD without Blu-Ray. $30 per volume... with only four episodes on each... That is NOT something I would even attempt to do at this point. I can own somewhere between 2-4 volumes of Funimation series for cash like that, and their volumes have a MINIMUM of 12 episodes. Which one do you think more people are going to go after? Aniplex is doing a similar business model to the Japanese releases, when they should realize that, while cheaper than buying them in Japan still, something like that does not really fly over real well in the US. Bandai FAILED here with similar practices, and they had freaking Gundam and Bebop to back them up.
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I actually have the full collection in Blu-ray( the last one came out i think last week)

But i order from Japan so…you just have to get over the price. Personally i like Aniplex you get more than campared to Funi and Sentai
filmworks.

Plus i like having the choice beteen limited to regular.

Do you have the all 4 as well?

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Sgt_Phantomizer wrote:

I could have already started ordering this, I'd really love to own the collector's editions of this anime...but over $100 for half a season? No...if it was 12 episodes, I'd probably get it...the entire 25 episodes and it would be a done deal without a second thought.

But as it is? Too expensive, even if I have the money on hand.


This is what Aniplex does with all their releases. It would cost about $90 to own Madoka's complete series... on standard DVD without Blu-Ray. $30 per volume... with only four episodes on each... That is NOT something I would even attempt to do at this point. I can own somewhere between 2-4 volumes of Funimation series for cash like that, and their volumes have a MINIMUM of 12 episodes. Which one do you think more people are going to go after? Aniplex is doing a similar business model to the Japanese releases, when they should realize that, while cheaper than buying them in Japan still, something like that does not really fly over real well in the US. Bandai FAILED here with similar practices, and they had freaking Gundam and Bebop to back them up.


Yeah...way overpriced, I'm a guy willing to splurge in his hobbies...I have several animes, some mangas and more video games then I care to count right now, some of which I've spent quite a bit of money on. But I can't justify paying what Aniplex is asking, for either PMMM or SAO, two series which I consider to be in my top 5 all time favorites.

It's just not happening, no matter how much I want to own them
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I'll be honest, the main reason why I think Aniplex is ridiculous is because I can't afford to purchase any of their releases. But even if I could purchase them, it only takes some simple math to realize just how much of a killing Aniplex is making with this business model, which is the real reason as to why I wouldn't purchase anything they release.

Because it was the reason this thread was started, I'll use SAO as an example. There's no way it costs $90 for SAO blu-ray sets to be manufactured, so what kind of profit is Aniplex making off of them? Of course I'm assuming it doesn't cost $90 for each unit to be manufactured, but come on, even with the lack of comparative extras in Funimation/Sentai releases, the prices are so different from each other that its obvious the profit margin is huge for Aniplex. So for the SAO blu-rays, its okay to assume that you buy one, you buy them all, simply because those sets are tailor made for collectors that have that much disposable income. So if only 1500 (I think that number is pretty low, honestly) people buy into the limited edition sets, that's $540k. Even without a known profit margin, that's a huge number. No wonder they are using and keep using this model, the amount of profit they must be making is unbelievable. I would be very interested in seeing their limited editions versus regular crap editions sales comparisons, but the DVD sales aren't even worth factoring just because of how much they're making on the limited editions alone. It makes the DVD sales almost like bonus profits.

Its practically the same for all the other Aniplex releases. The recent release of the Fate/zero sets are along the same lines, with $300 being the total cost of the blu-ray version, and with that kind of entry fee, no one would buy Fate/zero part one then just decide, oh well I don't think part two is worth it, and that is exactly what AoA is counting on. Sorry for the rant… I just really wanted to get that off my chest.
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Posted 11/19/13 , edited 11/19/13

pchastain769 wrote:

I'll be honest, the main reason why I think Aniplex is ridiculous is because I can't afford to purchase any of their releases. But even if I could purchase them, it only takes some simple math to realize just how much of a killing Aniplex is making with this business model, which is the real reason as to why I wouldn't purchase anything they release.

Because it was the reason this thread was started, I'll use SAO as an example. There's no way it costs $90 for SAO blu-ray sets to be manufactured, so what kind of profit is Aniplex making off of them? Of course I'm assuming it doesn't cost $90 for each unit to be manufactured, but come on, even with the lack of comparative extras in Funimation/Sentai releases, the prices are so different from each other that its obvious the profit margin is huge for Aniplex. So for the SAO blu-rays, its okay to assume that you buy one, you buy them all, simply because those sets are tailor made for collectors that have that much disposable income. So if only 1500 (I think that number is pretty low, honestly) people buy into the limited edition sets, that's $540k. Even without a known profit margin, that's a huge number. No wonder they are using and keep using this model, the amount of profit they must be making is unbelievable. I would be very interested in seeing their limited editions versus regular crap editions sales comparisons, but the DVD sales aren't even worth factoring just because of how much they're making on the limited editions alone. It makes the DVD sales almost like bonus profits.

Its practically the same for all the other Aniplex releases. The recent release of the Fate/zero sets are along the same lines, with $300 being the total cost of the blu-ray version, and with that kind of entry fee, no one would buy Fate/zero part one then just decide, oh well I don't think part two is worth it, and that is exactly what AoA is counting on. Sorry for the rant… I just really wanted to get that off my chest.


I see where you are coming from with this argument, and I DO think it is relatively true for the most part. However, Bandai failed here with rather popular series that were probably bought even more than what Aniplex is selling. Not quite as expensive, but still had the nonsense of 4-6 episodes per volume that they sold at $40+. And if they failed with Gundam, Bebop, Haruhi, Gurren, Code Geass, etc. I cannot see Aniplex, which is targeting a more niche audience than the more wide-spread Bandai did, I just do not see it lasting long. However, I guess if the hardcore audience DOES buy these volumes more than the casual market would, then I can see them lasting a while long.... Bandai targeting the more mainstream and less hardcore market may have been why they didn't sell as much as expected... Not sure, though. Ah well. At least pretty much everything from Aniplex is on Crunchyroll... Even if I would like to own legitimate copies of Madoka, SAO, Durarara!!, and most especially Fate/Zero.
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Orga777 At least pretty much everything from Aniplex is on Crunchyroll... Even if I would like to own legitimate copies of Madoka, SAO, Durarara!!, and most especially Fate/Zero. :(


This is the main reason I'm not completely flipping out over everything, at least the titles are available for viewing somewhere, legally. But yes, Bandai tried for a much larger market, which could be part of the reason why they failed. There's also the fact that they always eventually released cheaper, complete season box sets, which most people would just wait to purchase those. That had to have an affect on their profits and such. Aniplex doesn't do that, so it forces people to spend what they charge, because their prices NEVER go down. Its a brilliantly evil scheme, just like Apple's market strategy.
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im a big fan of sword art online but im also a smart investor... even do the disc offers a lot of extras i prefer to wait till the price goes down
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I rarely buy full sets of anime so I made a exception for the Blu-Ray set to SAO.

It's been almost 4 years since I last purchased a full series. I won't be buying anymore anime for a while, besides that's what CR is for.
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