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Post Reply What is your opinion of the current relationship between Japan and The United States of America?
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Posted 6/2/13
I'm just wondering what people thought of the current relationship between Japan and the USA. Please state the country you were born in (or live in); I want to get the feel of what people from both countries think and elsewhere.

What do you think about the American military presence in Japan?

What do you think of American involvement in the region?

What do people from other countries feel about the strong friendship between Japan and US?

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Posted 6/3/13
The Republicans hate them because, well republicans tend to hate everyone.
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I'm genuinely surprised that they are able to set aside whatever differences they've had in the past and can can form a strong alliance with one another.

I wish other countries could take the example and just set differences aside and just live in peace. #delusional thinking.
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I live in the US and I enjoy the current relationship we have with the Japanese. It's good to have allies. As far as American involvement in the region, as long as it's in support of allies, it's fine. Most every country in Eastern Asia, excluding China and NK mainly, want us to be there.


sizzlingmochi wrote:

The Republicans hate them because, well republicans tend to hate everyone.


What? Yeah, I don't know how to respond to that without insulting your intelligence or awareness, so I won't.
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Well Japan are practically westernised with greed and a blood stained past, but only their citizens think differently due to the corrupt education system and lies being portrayed. As for the US, I don't care lol.
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Posted 6/3/13

acljun wrote:

Well Japan are practically westernised with greed and a blood stained past, but only their citizens think differently due to the corrupt education system and lies being portrayed. As for the US, I don't care lol.


I knew Japanese text books have left out important things when it comes to their darker deeds in History, but is it really that bad?



GayAsianBoy wrote:

I'm genuinely surprised that they are able to set aside whatever differences they've had in the past and can can form a strong alliance with one another.

I wish other countries could take the example and just set differences aside and just live in peace. #delusional thinking.



I remember skimming through a post about someone auguring Code Geass being a display Japanese Nationalism and you guy's mentioning it, but don't remember what you take was on the subject.
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crazysouthsider wrote:

I remember skimming through a post about someone auguring Code Geass being a display Japanese Nationalism and you guy's mentioning it, but don't remember what you take was on the subject.


My opinion was it wasn't and that every other countries are as much guilty as Japan when it comes to painting their country in a favourable light in film/arts.
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Posted 6/3/13
Dont we more or less protect japan now?
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Posted 6/4/13

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Dont we more or less protect japan now?


Only because it benefits the U.S.

The moment that protecting Japan < Interest in U.S. goals, it'll be "Sorry, gotta deal with it yourself"
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yea i figured it was something like that
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TheJudged wrote:


kinzoku9597 wrote:

Dont we more or less protect japan now?


Only because it benefits the U.S.

The moment that protecting Japan < Interest in U.S. goals, it'll be "Sorry, gotta deal with it yourself"


yea i figured it was something like that
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25 / M / Canada
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Posted 6/4/13
One thing that's funny is that America is in massive debt to other countries, and Japan is in massive debt to it's citizens. America owes money to so many nations and Japan owes money to so many of it's own people
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TheJudged wrote:


kinzoku9597 wrote:

Dont we more or less protect japan now?


Only because it benefits the U.S.

The moment that protecting Japan < Interest in U.S. goals, it'll be "Sorry, gotta deal with it yourself"


pretty sure its like that for most countries. thats the best way to run a country imo.
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drakedogma wrote:

One thing that's funny is that America is in massive debt to other countries, and Japan is in massive debt to it's citizens. America owes money to so many nations and Japan owes money to so many of it's own people


So basically...
America & Japan are like 2 broke best friends?
Seems legit.
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Posted 6/4/13
Japan and America tolerate each other at best. Japan hates the US service members stationed over there, mostly due to a few bad eggs.

Go back to WW2: Japan still wanted to trade with the Axis powers and the Allies, US said no, Japan decided to tell the US how they really feel in a horrible way by attacking Hawaii- a huge Naval war commenced. While fighting a war on two fronts, which Japan was very slowly losing, the US decided that they needed to pull an equally horrible idea of an ace out of their hat and drop not one, but two bombs on a small island nation. God forbid we drop one of them on Germany and screw up Europe for many years to come, then again it was difficult to get aircraft around over there.
Now, if a good chunk of your land was rendered useless for many years, OR you got surprise attacked because you didn't want an at-the-time neutral party delivering supplies to your enemies, how would you feel?

We are obligation to defend Japan by treaty, since it was decided that japan couldn't keep all their toys- Japan does have a defense force, and have had troops deployed in other recent conflicts, but if the US were to let Japan re-mobilize, it would probably take many years before they're ready to do much of anything. Why spend their money forming a military when we're more than willing to spend ours.

They're also dinking around with China now over that po-dunk island that Japan has documentation saying they own fair and square.
I guess Taiwan thinks they have claim to it, but with China mobilizing a navy, I'd be more worried about them going back under Chinese control. The Chinese aircraft carrier is more or less a joke, they may have figured it out, but next time you get a chance look at how beefy the landing gear on a F-18 is compared to a 15/16/22, then compare the landing gear to any Chinese aircraft.
As for the Koreas, well... Yeah North is talking a good game, but it's just some nice posturing, China probably does still have a short leash on them, the US scoots in to play "show of force" whenever South wants to quiet North down a bit.
I'll tell you now though, if Japan and the US have to play war games with China, don't expect your every day low prices much longer.

There is a lot of American bashing I see in quite a few things, subtle some of it is, but Godzilla is probably the best example.
There has been equal Japan bashing, specifically 80's and 90's when Japan was taking over companies. When a US company holds the patent to the VCR, but the only companies producing them are Japanese, some people had an issue with it.

As the older generations go to their "greener pastures" the bad blood seems to be slowly going away. As I mentioned, it probably would take years for Japan to be a formidable fighting force if we did rip up the treaty, and it might do the budget good to pull out of the forward deployed bases, but it is more of an alliance of convenience that we share.
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