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Posted 6/3/13

AcadGlade wrote:


dracphelan wrote:

Stagefright, splashy,
Gee, Minmei sure is trashy.
Someday she's gonna be a pornstar!


Shut up you with that remark, I find that highly offensive!!

Robotech, To me, Was the first REAL anime, Other than SPEED RACER, that didn't rely on ridiculous characters to keep you entertained, (I'm referring to the original ASTRO BOY and KIMBA the WHITE LION).

Macross & Mospeda Gainer, Seemed more Robotech, than did Southern Cross.



Oh HELL NO! I find robotech to be offensive! It trashed a great anime (Macross), a good anime (Mosapeda), and a so-so one

roBLOWtech was the first many of us watched, but as we matured, we can see the damage it did to a REAL anime!

BTW, I really did LOL at his wonderful creativity!

P.S. read my sig line!

The real song that is sung there is Shohakuryuu Shappailon (Little White Dragon), not that crap Reba sings!
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I love both Robotech and Macross (and the other two series: Souther Cross and Mospeada), they each have new stuff which are great also. I sure wish I will still be alive when both Rick and Hikaru finally appear in their series, just where are they?!!.

Robotech sure did well around the world, and after a few years Macross did great overseas too. One great thing you get when you like both is that you get to enjoy a lot of new exciting stuff coming from both sides.

I also liked the Robotech printed novels, the are very well written. Many people got to know the series first by reading them.

Dana appears in the recent official comic Prelude to the Shadow Chronicles so she is okay even after the Robotech: New Generation part. It was very exciting to see her, I hope she makes an appearance in the next Robotech animated movie: "Robotech: Shadow Rising".

There is a new movie which will appear on july in DVD with more events after the Robotech: New Generation saga, is is called Robotech: Love, Live, Alive.

Tobbey McGuire and Warner Bros. acquired the Robotech film rights, but they are sure taking their time..

They just had a Robotech miniatures Kickstarter which rised almost a millon and a half in a few days (their first goal was only 70000 (seventy thousand dollars)!), they attracted the attention from Macross-only fans too because of the unique mecha they could get there.

I also wish to get the Macross Zero and Macross Frontier in DVD in the west...
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Posted 6/4/13
I got into Robotech through the novels, myself, though they are of varying quality (and, in a couple of cases, very rare and expensive). My rediscovery of the show came later, but, when I was old enough to have a job and make money, I saved it for the ADV releases of the shows that got amalgamated into the franchise. Humorously, though, I also lucked into a VHS copy of The Sentinels for $1 or so. ... Robotech may be a Frankenstein, but it did play a major role in building up anime / manga culture in the U.S., and I recognize that contribution despite the bumps it hit along the way. Macek is a controversial figure, but he was integral to getting this whole thing started.

And, hey, the last project the dude worked on was Dunbine, which I never thought I would be able to see, so props to him for going out on an awesome note.
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I will NEVER forgive Harmony Gold (makers of robotech) from keeping DYRL (Ai Oboete Imasu Ka: Do You Remember Love) out of the US (I would love to be a real licensed copy, not the uncopyrighted stuff out of China)
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I have to say, in their defense, that even if they DID butcher it, it's what made people interested in the show, and anime as a whole, enough to seek out more of it and find the true versions.

So, kudos to them for releasing it, regardless.
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It was one of the first few anime I saw as well, along with others like Voltron, and Sailor Moon, I have the first 3 seasons to Robotech myself.
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Total butcher job and because of it... we haven't been able to see the sequels to Macross here because they don't fit with his Frankenstein's monster show put together from parts of other shows. Silly syndication rules made them do it. They still have the rights to Macross unfortunately.

As for what happened to Rick, Minmei, Lancer, et al... There was manga/comics that came later. And even an OVA. I have the VHS for Robotech II: The Sentinels. 3 episodes, has a wedding! I also bought a screenplay/storyboard that came out after it was cancelled.

Now, if you want to know what happened to Hikaru (Rick), Misa (Lisa), Minmei for real you need to look at the original Macross Universe instead. It has nothing to do with protoculture...

What did they do well? They introduced a generation to anime who hadn't already seen Yamato, Grendizer, et al. That's it.


I actually dug the novels way more than the show myself. I read everything from Genesis through to End of the Circle I think and then sat down to watch the show and was like: WHAT IS THIS?
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Robotech was the first serious anime of mature content that I got into. I was pretty stunned by the violence and seriousness of much of it. Imagine a kid watching afternoon cartoons and seeing a severed human head from the SDF-1 transformation. My friends and I quickly realized that this was something way more mature oriented than we had seen in a cartoon. It's rather tame compared to shows these days I suppose. (Remember, that was at a time when the show Voltron said Sven went to a hospital far off and reappeared later when in actuality he died and they met his brother in the Go Lion series. Haha.) After noticing odd things in the continuity of the series (Dana Sterling's hair color change from blue as a child in the first series to blond in the next, and the big difference in mecha designs, I started to wonder what was up. Also, the idea of protoculture throughout Robotech seemed disjointed. The flower of life... what the hell?

Later on, I got a hold of Macross II and Macross Plus. I thought it was a continuation of robotech that hadn't been released in the states. Watching subtitles at the time was weird for me and the stories didn't seem to make sense. Soon enough, I found out that the Robotech I knew was three completely different series edited together. It was sort of a blow to my ego. I had collected several figures, had all the Robotech videos and had dismissed any rumors brought on by diehard anime fanatics.

I ended up reconciling once I gave the original Macross from Japan a try. It was simply much better. It wasn't this american idea that protoculture was an energy source worth throwing lives at. The idea of culture and music as a form of communication resonated with me. It led to my acceptance for japanese animation with english subtitles since that's where the magic and nuance is. The Macross movie took my breath away.

I can't watch Robotech anymore. I am grateful that it allowed me to take anime as a serious artform and storytelling vehicle. It was a platform to discover anime in my opinion. Its forgivable what they did to it, since I can watch all the real Macross series to get the real story. One drawback is that its a reminder of how bad the censorship and distribution rights were here. Things were only dubbed in english if they were watered down. And these three separate shows were made by the same company so it was really a buy out of overseas rights if I'm right. They can never show Macross on tv here. The guy behind all of this died a couple years ago. He did seem to have the best intentions though.

Having said that, I do not like that the Shadow Chronicles nonsense kept going on. I think they should let it die. But it doesn't concern me because I have the real thing now. If that helps newer viewers (not sure why since they can watch the Japanese easily now) or old Robotech fans set in their ways then so be it. But Macross, even the slightly gimpy but heartfelt Macross 7 series haha, is by far superior. Funny, I think Robotech ruined any interest I might have had in Mospeda or Southern Cross. But whatever. What unites people the most is having a JFK moment with Roy Fokker/Focker... PINEAPPLE SALAD.

And that's my report on what I did over summer vacation.
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Its funny how Go Lion, Macross and Sailor Moon english/american dubbed versions are quite different. Almost no graphic death, nudity, lewd dialogue or sexuality. Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune were... cousins or something? HA. They tried so hard to make us believe that.The US still needs to get over the idea that cartoons are for kids. They weren't 70-80 years ago.
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I love it for what it is. I have the Robotech Protoculture collection. I think they made a wonderful series out of those three separate shows. It was the way things where done back then. You had to change the original material to get it shown on T.V..

I recently found out that Harmony Gold is not the only one at fault for none the Marcross sequels being in North America. Big West is also in the way of more Macross coming out of Japan. Big West is an advertising firm in Japan which is the primary sponsor and copyright holder of the Macross series. If Big West and Harmony Gold could just both stop being asses and come to an agreement we could have more Macross.
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Posted 6/5/13
I've seen worse butcheries. What sandy frank did to Gatchaman.. urgh...


there is more involved that just who holds the rights. Aparantly Macek was a dick about franchising or syndication right or whatever and basically pissed off the major stations/networks that he contracted with. As result they back to back aired robotech to burn through the contracted number of showings as quickly as possible then refused to deal with him ever again. (or deal in anime it took over a decade for DiC to take a chance on sailor moon)

As result there's a whole generation of viewers who got well exposed to anime (despite the 'butchery') who were then left animeless.

It's no credit to Macek but perhaps he can deserve some sort of recognition that his actions led to people going out and finding more anime on their own. Places like Crunchyroll are heaven to people who remember gettting their anime fix from 6th generation copies of home recorded betatapes smuggled back from Japan in air passenger luggage.
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Funny thing is, in this thread we are complaining about the censorship they did back then while adapting it for US Television but today people complain about the fanservice all the time. It seems some people like the censorship, western puritanical attitude still what is wanted for many...
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Posted 6/5/13

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Funny thing is, in this thread we are complaining about the censorship they did back then while adapting it for US Television but today people complain about the fanservice all the time. It seems some people like the censorship, western puritanical attitude still what is wanted for many...


I don't care one way or the other about fanservice, as such I have never complained about it (too much or none at all)
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Posted 6/5/13

eightcar wrote:

I will NEVER forgive Harmony Gold (makers of robotech) from keeping DYRL (Ai Oboete Imasu Ka: Do You Remember Love) out of the US (I would love to be a real licensed copy, not the uncopyrighted stuff out of China)


Wasn't there an English release (Invasion of the Bioroids) or something like that?
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