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Speaking of butcheries, here's the worst of them all: Initial D.

I'd as soon blatantly pirate an anime than support companies that do that much slaughtering to a show.
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eightcar wrote:

I will NEVER forgive Harmony Gold (makers of robotech) from keeping DYRL (Ai Oboete Imasu Ka: Do You Remember Love) out of the US (I would love to be a real licensed copy, not the uncopyrighted stuff out of China)


Wasn't there an English release (Invasion of the Bioroids) or something like that?


That was SO bad, that the dubbing still gets made fun of in Macross circles everywhere!

"Do you want to remember the legendarily-bad English dub Macross in: Clash of the Bionoids?"

I had almost forgot about that butchery! ...Clash of the Bionoids! BLECH!
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And yet Clash of the Bionoids gives us the immortal line, "You can still fight when you're drunk!" (Thanks, Roy.)

To the one poster who also reads the Robotech novels: You ought to keep going beyond End of the Circle. The last bunch of novels, the ones that get into what would have been the Megazone 23 arc of the franchise, are actually pretty good, though they are also quite hard to find (like Sentinels #4 was – and only #4, for some reason).
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Arsenette wrote:

LMFAO RoBLOWtech.. I've never heard that one before.. ahahahahha Not sure I want to see the old Macross. I watched because it was another "Japanimation" thing out and I loved that style and storytelling in general (to the contrast of Tom and Jerry and Bugs Bunny - which was not bad.. I love those.. but it was a start contrast) however I am just not much of a mecha person. I think the most I'd do in terms of mecha was Vandread and Full Metal Panic.


There is a good love triangle/story and the singing IS awesome. Even if your not big on mecha, this would be a mecha one to watch (as it is not solely mecha-pr0n as some mecha series are)


Eh not sure If it's closer to the political BS of Gundam then no thanks. God that show broke me..
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Arsenette wrote:


eightcar wrote:


Arsenette wrote:

LMFAO RoBLOWtech.. I've never heard that one before.. ahahahahha Not sure I want to see the old Macross. I watched because it was another "Japanimation" thing out and I loved that style and storytelling in general (to the contrast of Tom and Jerry and Bugs Bunny - which was not bad.. I love those.. but it was a start contrast) however I am just not much of a mecha person. I think the most I'd do in terms of mecha was Vandread and Full Metal Panic.


There is a good love triangle/story and the singing IS awesome. Even if your not big on mecha, this would be a mecha one to watch (as it is not solely mecha-pr0n as some mecha series are)


Eh not sure If it's closer to the political BS of Gundam then no thanks. God that show broke me..


Macross isn't very political at all. At least not in my perspective. It's very human I'd say with more emphasis on the characters and their interactions themselves as opposed to the Mecha, even though it has arguably the best Mecha concept ever!! Transforming Jets!
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Posted 6/6/13

waverat81 wrote:


Arsenette wrote:


eightcar wrote:


Arsenette wrote:

LMFAO RoBLOWtech.. I've never heard that one before.. ahahahahha Not sure I want to see the old Macross. I watched because it was another "Japanimation" thing out and I loved that style and storytelling in general (to the contrast of Tom and Jerry and Bugs Bunny - which was not bad.. I love those.. but it was a start contrast) however I am just not much of a mecha person. I think the most I'd do in terms of mecha was Vandread and Full Metal Panic.


There is a good love triangle/story and the singing IS awesome. Even if your not big on mecha, this would be a mecha one to watch (as it is not solely mecha-pr0n as some mecha series are)


Eh not sure If it's closer to the political BS of Gundam then no thanks. God that show broke me..


Macross isn't very political at all. At least not in my perspective. It's very human I'd say with more emphasis on the characters and their interactions themselves as opposed to the Mecha, even though it has arguably the best Mecha concept ever!! Transforming Jets!


So which are legal?
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Robotech I liked it I at the time didn't know it was some kind of butchered ****fest kinda makes me want to watch it how its really made to be one day.

However unlike most people its not the first anime I saw

I can't remember what was my first anime, I think it was akira when I was like 9 back in the 90s when scifi had that weekend anime thing going on. Yes my mom let me watch whatever anime (or movies) that scifi was airing if I did good in school.. I lucked out and had the cool mom
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Posted 6/6/13

Arsenette wrote:


eightcar wrote:


Arsenette wrote:

LMFAO RoBLOWtech.. I've never heard that one before.. ahahahahha Not sure I want to see the old Macross. I watched because it was another "Japanimation" thing out and I loved that style and storytelling in general (to the contrast of Tom and Jerry and Bugs Bunny - which was not bad.. I love those.. but it was a start contrast) however I am just not much of a mecha person. I think the most I'd do in terms of mecha was Vandread and Full Metal Panic.


There is a good love triangle/story and the singing IS awesome. Even if your not big on mecha, this would be a mecha one to watch (as it is not solely mecha-pr0n as some mecha series are)


Eh not sure If it's closer to the political BS of Gundam then no thanks. God that show broke me..


Never seen ANY Gundam, so I don't know how it relates.

Macross isn't a preachy political anime, with the exception of 10-15 minutes of the hated character Lynn Kaifun (but no one likes him anyways and is a minor character)

It really is more about the characters than the mecha, and I think you would enjoy it.
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Okay, so for many of you, this was the first anime you saw. It certainly was for me, and got me hooked on anime in general.

And while that in itself is an interesting topic, I thought I'd focus on something else about this series. The fact that Robotech is actually an amalgamation of three different shows (Super Dimension Fortress Macross, Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross, Genesis Climber Mospeada).

What's your opinion on that? Did Carl Macek butcher these shows by combining them like this, or do you think they did okay?

When I was growing up watching these shows, I didn't even consider that aspect. And today, for the most part, I still think they did a fairly okay job at trying to link the three shows together story/continuity-wise.

But some nagging questions always came up, like what happened to Rick Hunter. And did Dana die fighting the Invid Invasion since she wasn't in the third show?

Do you like what they did, or do you think they ruined those shows because of it?


I am a HUGE Macross fan for the most part ( I didn't like the sequal Macross 7) and I've seen everything released thats Macross related.

That being said, the first season of Robotech was all right, it was pretty much a direct move of Macross over to America with a few changes. Everything else........is kinda weird. I remember seeing an episode where they were riding around on VF motorcycles and I was like "WTF IS THIS". It wasn't until I learned that what I saw wasn't Macross canon, but another show entirely that I went back and watched Macross in it's original form.
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macross = human nature

gundam = politics (especially wing)
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Posted 6/10/13

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Speaking of butcheries, here's the worst of them all: Initial D.

I'd as soon blatantly pirate an anime than support companies that do that much slaughtering to a show.


Are you referring to the anime? I thought I really enjoyed everything up to the point I've seen( whats available on Netflix) and I've read a decent chunk of the manga and it seems pretty spot on, unless I completely missed something along the way.

You MUST be referring to the the movie....which was horrible.
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Are you referring to the anime? I thought I really enjoyed everything up to the point I've seen( whats available on Netflix) and I've read a decent chunk of the manga and it seems pretty spot on, unless I completely missed something along the way.

You MUST be referring to the the movie....which was horrible.

I believe Animax also did a dub of the First Stage series, so that might be the one LynnTerra is referring to. Animax doesn't have a reputation for high quality dubs.

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I had somewhat of interesting experience with Robotech/Macross.

When I was a 9 year old kid in Korea in late 80's, I watched Macross as Macross. Weird thing is that South Korea marketed Macross as Robotech several years after I've immigrated to the U.S. (Probably the Korea's prohibition on anime and manga in early 90's, thus the name change)

After the immigration, I watched "Robotech: Macross Saga" during my middle school years in friend's VHS copy. Then I discovered "Robotech" novels from local library and even bought the art book of the Sentinels. Interesting enough, I never had toys and never bought one. I guess I was never a toy fan.

My friend also had "Clash of the Bionoids(Macross: DYRL) in VHS. It was very interesting experience for me because it has the same characters, but everyone look more detailed and film had higher level of violence.

Anyway, my view on Robotech died on the day when I discovered that it's a mixture of 3 totally unrelated shows at an anime club. I have totally forgotten what Minmay's dubbed final song sounded like nor would I care.

I think whole "Robotech" branding made it very difficult to bring coherent sequels.

It's not smart to sit on 30 years old franchise when whole generation grew up on Macross/Robotech are now adults who can easily afford sequels. To this day, Americans can't even put out a decent sequel with Robotech franchise (Shadow Chronicle looks very cheap). While Japanese released awesome looking sequels like Macross Plus and Macross Frontier, like every 5 to 10 years. Unless Harmony Gold do something or their license expires (I prefer the latter), we're not going to get anything.

On last note, I'm going to buy Macross Plus Japanese Blu ray boxset loaded with art books and other goodies.
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Posted 6/12/13

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And yet Clash of the Bionoids gives us the immortal line, "You can still fight when you're drunk!" (Thanks, Roy.)

To the one poster who also reads the Robotech novels: You ought to keep going beyond End of the Circle. The last bunch of novels, the ones that get into what would have been the Megazone 23 arc of the franchise, are actually pretty good, though they are also quite hard to find (like Sentinels #4 was – and only #4, for some reason).


Don't forget the cheesball

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