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Posted 6/12/13

TheRealEscargotpudding wrote:

Oh my god, the SEX thing in Lion King is so ridiculous. Like, if you could find that, I bet you see penises in everyday objects.

I like Disney movies, and I'm not bothered by the brief alcohol/smoking/cross-dressing scenes. Whatever. I didn't even notice them when I was a kid, and I didn't grow up to be an alcoholic/smoker.

What really bugs me is their portrayal of clear-cut good and evil, and the evil characters are always old and ugly. A lot of the princess movies also tend to portray the females as helpless beings who need a prince in their life.


It's like The Assumption Song. The song itself isn't dirty. Your mind is. If you don't have a dirty mind (or are a young kid), you wouldn't make assumptions of what it sounds like he's going to say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI1RqHlB4Aw

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I like what Walt made, I dislike the modern Disney output for many reasons, mostly it is dumb, violent and full of stereotypes. Is the difference what I watched as a kid vs being an adult, possibly but I don't think so as I rewatched many of the old Disney material with my children as they were growing up.



Posted 6/14/13

TheRealEscargotpudding wrote:

What really bugs me is their portrayal of clear-cut good and evil, and the evil characters are always old and ugly.




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Honestly I don't think young kids will notice and I've never been bothered by the cross-dressing scenes or the missing parents. I myself didn't notice them until I was ten. As for if SEX was supposed to be SFX , I don't believe it for a second and it is not only in Lion King but many other Disney movies too. And I think the cover of The Little Mermaid being rushed is a bunch of BS. As for anyone who was wondering what the whispered comment in Aladin was it says 'Take off your clothes' and yes I've heard it.
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It's fiction! It does not pretend to be reality. Quit ragging on the animation of Disney or anyone else.

I grew up on Warner Bros., Hanna Barbera, Rocky & Bullwinkle. Talk about adult themes, innuendo, stereotypes, & all the currently politically incorrect no-nos we are supposed to shun today........
I'd have to say I & the people I grew up with weren't so negatively influenced by watching these cartoons that it screwed us up in life.

It may be fiction & usually meant as entertainment, but of course there are the elements of everyday life used in their plots. What's so bad about introducing & learning about the unavoidable situations of our lives thru the benign medium of a cartoon? It's actually a good time to discuss such subjects w/ the kids, if necessary.

I'm sure some expert in child psychology will jump down my throat for my argument here. The "experts" have corrected me in these forums before......

I love cartoons, almost any kind. I am easily entertained & can move into a suspended reality whenever a good fictional story-line, print or film, depends on me & my imagination to make it "believable."

Really now, who cares if a cartoon character smokes, drinks, swears, etc.
In all fairness, not everything that's animated is safe or intended to be appropriate for children.
& just for the paranoids, control freaks, & politically correct police, we have movie ratings & parental control locks.
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Posted 6/29/13
Nonetheless.... Disney is still awesome!
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Disney has always been a bit of the trip, and the earlier stuff is alot more disturbing then the movies being released today. I have annual passes to Disneyland, and I cant tell you how many kids come off the Pinocchio and Snow White ride CRYING- and I can understand why, those rides are not happy. Yet, those are the rides Walt Disney himself made...just like the movies.

Today's standard of "children media" is pretty, fluffy, and soft.

The crude jokes really aren't there to brain warp children, it's there to please the adults in the audience who are either big Disney fans or dragged to watch the movie because they have kids.

The movies grow and change according to society. It was totally okay a few generations ago to drink in public, smoking wasn't deemed hazardous, and women were always waiting to be rescued by a prince. Now, we have princesses who forge their own paths, everybody in the movie drinks water, with the occasional adult humor.
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The really stupid thing is everyone forgets that:
Disney's animated movies were usually based off of books, novels, plays, nursery rhymes ect....


Beauty and The Beast is from a 1740 fairy tale

Kimba the white lion = Lion King

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_white_lion

Bambi, A life in the woods = Bambi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambi,_A_Life_in_the_Woods



Great Mouse Detective is from a book called Basil of Baker Street, and obviously was influenced by Sherlock Holmes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_of_Baker_Street

Snow White is a traditional fairy tale from 1812 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_white


The Little Mermaid is from a Fairy Tale that was published in 1837

Hua Mulan = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hua_Mulan

Pocahontas, who was an actual historical figure = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocahontas and a picture to boot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pocahontas-saves-Smith-NE-Chromo-1870.jpeg



So why is everyone blaming Disney?


Do I need to go on? Because Disney has adapted many more of their movies from other media.




Anyways, on another note. If I ever adopt a kid, I will be making them watch disney movies. They will not watch the things you see nowadays on kids channels. I'll block those channels. I feel like it's just too stupid.
Kids need to grow up understanding life subjects.
Also, a dose of The Last Unicorn will be good too. I have the uncensored version.

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Posted 9/9/13
its the perversion of the reality ... disney twists what has been written as well as perpetuating stereotypes ... disney is what it is ... no one should expect the company to have a conscious.
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DISNEY RUINED STAR WARS, SO THEREFORE, I HATE DISNEY.
I do love the classic movies though...
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Posted 10/9/13
Comeon Beauty and the Beast was family friendly beastiealy
and Walt Disney. was like one of the biggest racest in the world
Posted 10/9/13
Yeah, children really do give a whole lot of shit about your ideologies.
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Posted 10/9/13

dankuuwut wrote:

Yeah, children really do give a whole lot of shit about your ideologies.


Kids seem a lot more savvy these days

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Posted 10/10/13

Wihl wrote:

I like what Walt made, I dislike the modern Disney output for many reasons, mostly it is dumb, violent and full of stereotypes. Is the difference what I watched as a kid vs being an adult, possibly but I don't think so as I rewatched many of the old Disney material with my children as they were growing up.





You might want to go back and rewatch the Disney classics, you'll change your mind about what Disney puts out now.

As for the original post animators are always sneaking stuff in, it is purposeful I believe they get away with it because it sails over kids heads. It's not just prevalent in modern animation but older animation as well. Hell half the cartoons I watched growing up (i.e. Rocko's Modern Life, Ren & Stimpy, Dexter's Lab, etc.) were way too grown up for the audience they targeted.
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Posted 10/14/13

DivinePrince wrote:

The really stupid thing is everyone forgets that:
Disney's animated movies were usually based off of books, novels, plays, nursery rhymes ect....


Beauty and The Beast is from a 1740 fairy tale

Kimba the white lion = Lion King

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_white_lion

Bambi, A life in the woods = Bambi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambi,_A_Life_in_the_Woods



Great Mouse Detective is from a book called Basil of Baker Street, and obviously was influenced by Sherlock Holmes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_of_Baker_Street

Snow White is a traditional fairy tale from 1812 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_white


The Little Mermaid is from a Fairy Tale that was published in 1837

Hua Mulan = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hua_Mulan

Pocahontas, who was an actual historical figure = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocahontas and a picture to boot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pocahontas-saves-Smith-NE-Chromo-1870.jpeg



So why is everyone blaming Disney?



Do I need to go on? Because Disney has adapted many more of their movies from other media.




Anyways, on another note. If I ever adopt a kid, I will be making them watch disney movies. They will not watch the things you see nowadays on kids channels. I'll block those channels. I feel like it's just too stupid.
Kids need to grow up understanding life subjects.
Also, a dose of The Last Unicorn will be good too. I have the uncensored version.



Well Disney should return to basing movies off of stories because clearly that's what the audience likes.
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