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Posted 10/15/13
while I by no means think that writers and animators should go out of their way to be inappropriate or controversial I think that they shouldn't have too many restrictions placed on them either

Even if Disney for example hasn't taken the route of being over the top 'edgy' I think people need to realize that Disney can do what they want with their movies. If Disney suddenly decides to release an animated movie that is on par Elfen Lied for blood and gore they have the right to do that, and yet if they did parents everywhere would probably start rallying in the streets saying that Disney is trying to corrupt their children.

I am not a parent, I don't plan to be for awhile, but I am firmly of the belief that it is a parents responsibility to raise their children. As such Disney can make whatever the heck kind of movie they want, heck if they want to make an R rated highly inappropriate for young viewers movie they can, but no parent needs to show that movie to their kids.

Also if Disney animators want to test the Disney censor board and the ratting system by slipping in innuendoes they can, and once again the parents of the world are not obligated to show that movie to their kids if they don't believe it is appropriate for THEIR children, their kids can then move out when they're 22 and watch it themselves. However if another parent wants to show THEIR OWN kids that movie, then they are perfectly in their rights to do so, provided they aren't trying to hurt the kids, at which point they aren't fit to be parents by the laws of most countries and will probably shortly be arrested

I feel like that is the thing that people overlook a lot, sure Disney (or other company) is known for being a family friendly group, but if they suddenly make something that would not be family friendly (by some people's standards) then people don't need to watch it, then the so called problem can remain small
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Posted 10/16/13 , edited 10/16/13
That's the problem. It's the PARENTS' job to screen what their kids watch. Not Disney, not schools, not teachers, not society. It's the parent's job and it's not Disney's or any cooperation's fault if the parent's can't do that.

I'm pretty sure that's the point SquallFire wanted to make. That yes parents don't screen content much anymore, but that doesn't make it Disney's or anyone else's fault but the parents and maybe their kids if it's a situation like the one you described.
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Posted 11/8/13

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Kimba the white lion = Lion King



Only partly. The original inspiration was actually Shakespeare's Hamlet. With Kimba thrown in to the mix because the figured children would prefer animals over people. Plus it would make the inspiration for the actual story less obvious. To start with anyway.

As for Disney itself even today I still love some of the Disney movies, Mulan being my favorite (though never Cinderella since I always end up comparing it to the brothers Grimm version chopped toes and all ).


I think the worst you can honestly say about Disney is as has been pointed pout before is the constant portrayal they had of the princess always waiting to be saved most if not all of the time. Had they even done a gender reversal at least once (they were so close with the Frog princess, and Mulan might fall into this but in my mind both leading characters were equal which is better still in my opinion). Then I wouldn't care so much. Hey they still might or they might even have done so already and I missed it.

I mean yes the older movies where a sign of the time period but still more movies in which the character's gender doesn't play a role at all would be nice. If that makes sense. Or a repeat of something like Mulan which tries to go against the society norm but in a good way.
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I think the worst you can honestly say about Disney is as has been pointed pout before is the constant portrayal they had of the princess always waiting to be saved most if not all of the time. Had they even done a gender reversal at least once (they were so close with the Frog princess, and Mulan might fall into this but in my mind both leading characters were equal which is better still in my opinion). Then I wouldn't care so much. Hey they still might or they might even have done so already and I missed it.


Fun fact, back in the day some critics praised The Little Mermaid because Arel was the first Disney Princess to actually do something to get what she wanted for love.
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Posted 11/8/13
I've actually seen that cover. It does actually exist. My parents kept it for some odd reason.

As for your question:

Disney Corporation has it's hands in more than what we see at Disney World. There's also a rumor that Disney owns the Spice Channel, and it's not about herbs or food in general. Trust me. Child actors who got their start from Disney have also begun to receive a bad rep as they have gotten older, which may indicate there is more than what we see. Also, why does every Disney movie feature a romantic kiss (with the exception of Alice in Wonderland; they took the idea from "Through the Looking Glass" and kept the story) while most Universal movies that are intended for kids do not feature anything like that? While it's true that kids will eventually see and learn about lude behaviors, should they not teach the children that it is not age appropriate for them? Should they not learn to say no, especially since school should be their top priority? This is the controversy behind Disney. They have continuously blatantly put sexually explicit material in almost every aspect of their material. Some shows have even said "You are not beautiful, therefore you can't do great things." without even saying it. You ever noticed how shows like Lizzie McGuire always were focusing on fashion crazed teenagers? Half of those clothes I wouldn't let my unborn daughter go near. Disney only has one thing on their mind, and it's not age appropriate below 18.
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Posted 11/10/13 , edited 11/10/13

ThrenodialSoul wrote:

DISNEY RUINED STAR WARS, SO THEREFORE, I HATE DISNEY.
I do love the classic movies though...


how did Disney ruin Star Wars? they haven't even did anything with it yet.
Posted 11/19/13
OP is a fucking idiot. Lol.
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Posted 11/19/13

Iainfixie wrote:

OP is a fucking idiot. Lol.


Wow, thanks for the insightful comment. Would you like to expand on why I'm a "fucking idiot"? If you have a valid argument I'd love to hear it, but if all you have to say is, "because you just are" then leave the topic.

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Kids don't see it in the impure way adults do, so it's fine. It's not just disney movies, lots of 'family' movies have innuendoes, double entendrees, puns or dirty jokes in their to keep parents somewhat entertained when watching those movies w/ their kids.

The people complaining are obviously PTA-type like prudes that have too much time on their hands and too sexually repressed to complain about what they want in bed, and thus taking it out on - of all things to complain about, Disney movies.
I mean, no kid is looking at little mermaid and saying, 'gosh her boobs look nice', or 'omg, shock horror, it's spelling SEX!', it's the mind of clearly impure and sex deprived/repressed adults/ parents not focusing on the story, songs, morals blahblahblah of the movie.
Posted 12/10/13 , edited 12/10/13

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Iainfixie wrote:

OP is a fucking idiot. Lol.


Wow, thanks for the insightful comment. Would you like to expand on why I'm a "fucking idiot"? If you have a valid argument I'd love to hear it, but if all you have to say is, "because you just are" then leave the topic.



because you just are.
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Posted 12/10/13

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WednesdayBookLove wrote:


Iainfixie wrote:

OP is a fucking idiot. Lol.


Wow, thanks for the insightful comment. Would you like to expand on why I'm a "fucking idiot"? If you have a valid argument I'd love to hear it, but if all you have to say is, "because you just are" then leave the topic.



because you just are.


Don't feed the troll. Toll has no purpose in life but to fuck with people. Troll deserves no further attention.
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Posted 12/11/13
I grew up on a healthy dose of R-rated flicks and violent video games, and regularly flipped the cable box to the playboy channel when my parents weren't in the living room. They knew I was doing this, but rather than cut me off from it, I got life lessons from them fairly early. I got the birds and bees talk before I even hit puberty lol. Now, I'm not suggesting that every parent should raise their kids like this, because each kid is different and develops at his/her own speed. I just feel it would be more beneficial overall to society if parents stay involved in their kids' lives and had these talks as the kids become ready for it, and not cut them off from this type of content and discussion until the parents (I love the PTA-prude comment above, and these are the parents I'm referencing in this comment) are ready for it.

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There was a local story on the news this morning about a 6 year old boy that got suspended for kissing a girl on the cheek. The school said it went against their policy for sexual harassment, but what gets to me is that they never mentioned if the girl was appalled by his "advances" or just took it as a cute gesture or something. Not only that, but 6 year olds are 6 year olds. They do those things. Suspending him isn't going to teach him that kissing a girl when she doesn't want it is not okay. Apparently he had been suspended once before for the same behavior, and obviously suspending him didn't change his behavior.
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Posted 12/15/13
" Who Shot Roger Rabbit" definitely falls into the category you're describing. Disney has had problems over the years with many topics depicted in their movies. If you ever have seen "Songs of the South" you'd swear that it was written by an ex Imperial Wizard.Did Disney miss any racial stereotype in this production? Ultimately it's the parent that needs to make a decision,and take responsibility, for what their children watch, and not rely on some production company to make the decision for them.When parents vote withe their pocket books and feet, production companies have no choice but to take notice.
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