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Posted 10/15/13

lordseth23 wrote:

What is wrong with Obamacare?


I've heard a lot about people complaining about it not being a single pay system, and is far too divided.
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Posted 10/15/13 , edited 10/15/13

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Hey has no one heard of this US government shut-down?
Does anyone have any thoughts?




I'm really starting to think that something like this might actually be a good idea too...
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Posted 12/8/13
The only thing a government shutdown means is that we the people lose all benefits given by our "generous" Overlords.

And a fun "fact" : It is likely that Barrack Obama, the American President, is not even here legally.
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Posted 12/8/13

MopZ wrote:


irtiza9169 wrote:


HellYEAAAHH wrote:

Hey has no one heard of this US government shut-down?
Does anyone have any thoughts?




I'm really starting to think that something like this might actually be a good idea too...


Not bloody likely. You can keep them mate!
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Posted 12/8/13
Obama, Ofama, mee, mi, Mofama, O-o-Obama...
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Posted 8/2/14 , edited 8/2/14
Republicans and Democrats in congress disagree to such a point that they are no longer willing to work with one another. That about sums it up.
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Posted 8/31/14
The failure of the political system is cause by the Republican party controlling half of the branch that is supposed to create laws, forcing Obama to take more executive actions. It's sad that an out of touch and racist party is still one of the two major political parties in the US. Now on to ObamaCare. It HAS WORKED. Even conservatives in red states are admitting it. It has helped Medicad and reduced the budget.
Posted 25 days ago , edited 25 days ago

Hmm. It certainly has its problems, but I'm not sure how to fix it.
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Posted 25 days ago
I suppose the main problem with the US political system is its use of first past the post electoral schema. This generally results in the formation of a two-party system, which tend to be less representative in aggregate. The reason they're less representative is their maximization of the median voter theorem's impact. Instead of several smaller parties which represent their constituents' interests and which collectively paint a nice picture of the political landscape you're left with two parties which take anyone who isn't a centrist completely for granted, expecting them to vote strategically so that at the very least "the other guy" won't win.
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Posted 25 days ago , edited 25 days ago
What she said ^

It doesn't help that bipartisanship is dead and gone. Republicans will even say no to their own ideas if it's a Democrat presenting them. Bill Clinton balanced the budget with a Republican congress. The current congress has done less than the Do-Nothing Congress of Herbert Hoover!
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Multiple parties, eh? Sounds like Canada and/or Great Britain. Perhaps we should move there.
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Posted 24 days ago , edited 24 days ago

Zeboim wrote:

Multiple parties, eh? Sounds like Canada and/or Great Britain. Perhaps we should move there.


Something like that, yes. The UK has two very influential parties (Labour and the Tories) and a much smaller party which has a lot less swing (the Liberal Democrats). There is a third quasi-faction in the House of Lords which isn't quite as large as either Labour or the Tories called the Crossbenchers, but their characteristic feature is that they're unaligned. They're independent, both of parties and one another. So the UK is more or less a three party system with two very strong parties and one sickly one which can occasionally get in a good punch. I was thinking something more along the lines of the Danish Folketinget or the Finnish Eduskunta, both of which have several influential parties.

The funny thing is that if you broke up the Democratic and Republican parties into their constituent sub-factions I expect that Congress would look quite a bit like the Folketinget or the Eduskunta. The difference would be that while US political parties represent more or less permanent coalitions, the Folketinget and Eduskunta could see a left-wing, right-wing, or even a centrist coalition break apart under the right circumstances. And that's a good thing, it promotes consensus democracy in a way that winner-take all systems don't.
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Posted 12 days ago
America you've entered the era of one party politics; one party proposes and one party opposes. For a net gain of nil.
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Every political system has corruption. You put people in positions of power and some of them will learn to abuse it for their own gain. This is age-old news. Different political systems at different times are corrupted in different ways but that ugly stain of power hunger will always be present.
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