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Posted 6/7/13 , edited 8/6/14


Better start forgetting that Xbox One, because the NSA got it infected... Skype too.


Yeah I suddenly started hearing about this yesterday and seems like there's alot of proof backing all of this up.

+ This isn't NSA only spying on it's own country, they have the ability to spy on countries worldwide via internet, the Xbox, Skype & alot of other things such as Google, facebook etc...

07/06-13 - 11/06-13 (DD-MM-YYY)

12/06-13 - 13/06-13 (DD-MM-YYY)



Well, I wont add more updates.
This thread is mostly dead anyways, but do read through some of those links/article's above, some are quite interesting.




UPDATE 02/07-13 (DD-MM-YY)

Well I just have to Update this, this has gone way out of hand while I've been following it, but not updated it here -.-




The US says spying via hacking and such is an act of war, they claim that China has been doing this for years, but this, I think, is just them trying to protect what they are doing, they are the ones spying, not only on their citizens, on their allies as well, some of which are, Germany & France.
Germany & France have said that they are Granting Edward Snowden asylum, even though this violates their alliance agreement with the US, but what the US has done against them, that is fair. Snowden is the NSA agent that leaked all of this info out.
There are many questions being directed at the US and they are trying to neglect everything and go on a manhunt after Snowden.


Sources:

Spying on Allies





Edward Snowden





In other sorta related news




Mass protests planned over web NSA spying revelations
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23160309


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Posted 6/7/13
Well i dont enjoy it, but if it can prevent crimes from happening it should remain.
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Boycott American tech?
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Posted 6/7/13 , edited 6/7/13

Kikusui10 wrote:

Well i dont enjoy it, but if it can prevent crimes from happening it should remain.


You would give up your freedom of speech to stopping crime, sure, but that still will make NSA to be able to restrict what you are going to say, not now, but it could happen in the future.. That's why everyone is freaking out about this, it will help catch criminals, but it may cause much worse things in the future like an government that controls it's citizens opinions. or Totalitarianism a rough example.

+ The reason other countries are freaking out too is because USA will be able to spy on them = Everyone mad at USA = ( 1vAllothercountries war gg USA xD)
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Posted 6/7/13 , edited 6/7/13

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All Verizon Wireless calls are being monitored by the government.


Not just Verizon all, more info was leaked then what Yahoo news was reporting. And to think it was U.K. that blew the lid on it since the U.S. govt. has the media on their leash for the cover-up. Some who were deemed as paranoid nutcases years ago aren't so crazy after all.



Kikusui10 wrote:

Well i dont enjoy it, but if it can prevent crimes from happening it should remain.



I just chuckle because we are headed towards a bad setup, after all this info they have "gathered" they still were unable to stop many things from happening. What at the end of the day what can you really do?
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Well, the United States constitution doesn't say anything about a right to privacy, so unfotunately, there's no way you can realistically stop the NSA from spying.
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Posted 6/7/13 , edited 6/7/13
The NSA, spying on people? No way, who would have thought that?
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meygaera wrote:

The NSA, spying on people? No way, who would have thought that?


I love sarcasm
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Atheyon wrote:

Well, the United States constitution doesn't say anything about a right to privacy, so unfotunately, there's no way you can realistically stop the NSA from spying.
4th amendment.

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This has been going on since the Patriot Act went into effect under Bush. It took this long for the government to own up to it.

So much for land of the free. Every single thing you do on your cellphone, your computer, your television...it's all monitored. Soon, you won't be able to pee without your XBox telling the NSA about it.
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AsahinaInu wrote:


Atheyon wrote:

Well, the United States constitution doesn't say anything about a right to privacy, so unfotunately, there's no way you can realistically stop the NSA from spying.
4th amendment.



That only prevents against unreasonable search and seizures without a warrant of sorts. All the NSA has to do is come up with some crap-shot reason and suddenly, it's cool
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I have to wonder where all the outrage was when this stuff started after 9/11? People should have spoken up a decade ago when it was "just the terrorist" they were going after. Different story when it's confirmed they're looking at YOUR data.
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Atheyon wrote:

That only prevents against unreasonable search and seizures without a warrant of sorts. All the NSA has to do is come up with some crap-shot reason and suddenly, it's cool
I was just clarifying that it is in the constitution. The fact that the government does everything in its power to circumvent said supposed rights is an entirely different matter.

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Been reading up on this : it is the rest of trhe world that the NSA is monitoring. Europe, Australia, Asian, South America ect, ie me.

Facebook, Skype, Google, Microsoft and all subsidiaries, like Skype of Microsoft, Verizon lines in the UK for international routing, Apple. So Searches on Google, Bing, Contact webs through Google+ and Facebook on those people not American. Under US law, this is entirely legal as we aren't Americans.

This sounds like a crappy conspiracy theory but apparently its true, and it was a British Paper called the Guardian that blew the lid on this, as they had the balls to publish it.
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Phone tapping without an order from court is considered a search without a warrant by law
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