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we are now, and have been since before you were born, arming al qeada
if you had been alive in george washingtons time, you would have been a loyalist and a traitor to the cause of freedom

the TSA and the NSA cant even prevent obama from handing over a truck load of guns to the mexican street gangs in fast and furious.
nor can the seem to prevent the flow of illegal drugs brought here by our government from the middle east.
the last thing are going to prevent is a horde of our "rebel friends" coming over and causing harm....

you need to grow up and go outside in the real world away from your hippy, home schooling parents and super white, sheltered life
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Posted 9/19/13

swirly_commode wrote:


longfenglim wrote:


swirly_commode wrote:

did you even graduate highschool?
is government class still a requirement to graduate or are you just half retarded?
im going to assume you are north korean and just trolling since you arent allowed the same freedoms that we, as americans, used to enjoy.

or im going to to assume that they dont teach the difference between free people and the oppressed like people were under USSR.


were you home schooled?
are you some religious fundy?
you are the most ignorant person i have ever had the privaledge of talking to.
you should seriously read some books on history or even go back to school and get your diploma


Judging by the quality of your writing, and by the level of your arguments, I believe that the questions concerning my intelligence and my level of education would be better directed towards yourself.

As to my ignorance- I defy to to prove that anything I have said concerning the foundation of this country is wrong, or else, respond to any of my arguments- you should have no trouble with them if they are so 'ignorant'.

But, there is no response, and there is only the accusation that I am a North Korean (impossible because North Korea isn't connected to the Internet), nor have you disprove anything I have said, or else show any fault in my reasoning.


ps.
im only quoting you to get your attention
i dont care what you have to say anymore since you are so poorly educated and clearly a fervent supporter of the oppressive police state
i bet you love what hitler was able to do



And, yet, despite my 'poor education', the quality of my writing is far superior to yours, and my history extends beyond grade-school propaganda.

I never cared what you had to say, especially since you can't even say it properly.
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heated discussion or not, flame comments aren't permitted. This is the only warning.
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Posted 1/29/14 , edited 1/29/14
Would you like to know how it work's?

Seeing as we're all victim's of this global conspiracy to strip not just americans of there right's; Electronic intercept of communication constitutes a violation of 50 U.S.C. § 1861(b)(2) of The Patriot Act && Violates the civil liberties of the Data Protection Act etc, etc I could go on.

But it's easier to tell you exactly how they're doing it!

Snowden leaked cables saying they had hacked into under water cables along the atlantic shelf, this is a smoke screen for the real truth, that the entire Android OS, the entire iPhone OS and the iPad, Windows Surface are all infected with a Rootkit allowing them access.

There is no under-water hacking involved, that is purely conjecture on Snowdens part and on the part of other people who do not understand the technology.

When I analysed (Yes I am an Analyst!) my own Android OS, the first step was Jailbreaking the device, then installing custom firmware.

You too can do this: Root your Device and Install the XPrivacy Framework! Then run the OSMonitor!

Once the custom firmware was installed then tracing the entire Hack was simple and took only a few minutes, approx 30 in total.

The device when it connects to the wireless network, open's literally hundreds of Sockets which are all encrypted secure sockets, directly to the Software distributor in this Case: Google then it allows the attacker to make use of something called OVH SAS or that's SAS from the movie hackers for the rest of you technically inclined people, standing for "Switch Access Services" yea, I know what your thinking your thinking OMG! It actually exists!

Those connection's then get routed via France to a telecom's provider in Spain a certain large ISP specializing in cloud hosting (OVH SAS) && (digitalocean.com) who has misconfigured their network in a way that allows for anyone to monitor customer network traffic.

So cloud hosting and cloud storage services are exactly how the Government is abusing the public trust and watching all digital traffic.

You didnt really think they went digging up cables in the Ocean did you?

There has been a lot of fear about our devices and beloved computers which is groundless, if you own Old equipment from prior to 2011 before the World Trade Center was actually Bombed by retarded fundermental nutcases then your fears are groundless.

Because it was they claim only devices shipped after that date they intentionally infected with this EViL SpyCrap!

Just remove the Gay little Android, the Crap iOS and anything like a Windows Phone!

& Stick with the GNU... People say well they can hack there way into anything.. No they can't!

I use a Monolithic Kernel and I void Warranties and the Good News is "So can you!" that means no Python, no C++, no Perl, no Php, no Javascript, no ActiveX, no ICMP, no UDP and absolutely no ARP..

Only TCP/IP and then that device treats everything under the storage system as a file, including the device descriptors.

So they can blow there Security Enhanced Linux & FreeBSD out of there ass!

Edward Snowden does not Exist! It was all Lie's and social engineering to get people to stop thinking about how Cloud Storage really works! Google Bot trawls (Trolls) literally hundreds of thousands of site's daily and that's how they help themselves to anything you thought was private, (dropbox, google drive, microsoft online storage etc) if you upload it to the cloud, you might as well have published it on the Web! Beside's a healthy dose of paranoia makes people afraid to use there own computer doesnt it! What have they done to other open source projects, well they say they intentionally leave bugs in it so they can break in later? To be honest on that one I dont really know and I dont really care!
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As a Hacker, let me explain it better for those that don't understand it;

Here's what all your software maintainers that you the Public trust are not telling you!

Visual Basic - Virus City - Insecure - Broken
Perl - Insecure - Broken
Php - Insecure - Broken
Java - Virus City - Insecure - Broken
Services - Insecure - Broken
ActiveX - Insecure - Broken
DirectX - Insecure - Broken
X11 - Display Manager - Insecure - Broken
C++ Virus City - Insecure - Broken
Python - Insecure - Broken
GoLang - Insecure - Broken
SQL - Insecure - Broken
Flash Player - Insecure - Broken
Linux & BSD Kernel - Very Fuzzy - Quite Possibly - Broken


And the maintainers of all this software...

Well they're really screwing you as a customer arnt they if they are sitting there deliberately putting back-doors in there applications because they've signed some private deal that lets them get away with doing that and selling it onward afterward and as for the people your buying your Hardware from, the less said about them the better!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ

What can you do about it? Fight back!

Use obscure operating systems that have not seen the light of day since the internets inception!

The humble Amiga, the Commodor 64, the Sinclair ZX, the Acorn Basic.

Throw that Windows Rubbish in the Bin && Simply refuse to buy into any of it.

Until they stop maliciously tainting your OS!

If you really believe they're going to stop all this Evil Sh** there doing to you and dismantle there 1 billion dollar data harvesting program you can forget it! So the only other alternative is to no longer use the Internet and encourage your children to do the same!

http://www.npr.org/2013/06/10/190160772/amid-data-controversy-nsa-builds-its-biggest-data-farm

And those invasive nasty twisted, cunning arseholes can put that in there bloody pipe and smoke it!
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Posted 1/30/14
I don't get why everyone is so surprised every government spys on it's people in one forum or another. So the NSA is spying big deal it's not like China where if you go to the wrong website you get locked up and your orgens harvested
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Posted 1/30/14
As someone who used to work in MI, this is kind of getting on my nerves. I'm not going to say the NSA might have overstepped their bounds, but they do a much needed service for our country. They need to know what's going on, to help protect us. Even if that means they know what I'm saying on my phone or what kind of porn I'm looking at. It's not like any of this is new, this stuff has been going on for years. It's just that people are just now paying attention to it. It's really all silly I think.
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Posted 1/31/14 , edited 1/31/14

iamtheredseven wrote:

As someone who used to work in MI, this is kind of getting on my nerves. I'm not going to say the NSA might have overstepped their bounds, but they do a much needed service for our country. They need to know what's going on, to help protect us. Even if that means they know what I'm saying on my phone or what kind of porn I'm looking at. It's not like any of this is new, this stuff has been going on for years. It's just that people are just now paying attention to it. It's really all silly I think.


Silly!

Ok, son let me tell you what that device in your hand is really capable of and you tell me if your really OK with it.

They can turn on your microphone and record your conversations, they can access anything you put on the device including private and personal emails to your loved one's and family. Including all your private and personal SMS messages. They can see all your "Passwords" as your type them in (IN THE CLEAR), any security layer you have is FALSE!

Then they can activate your Camera remotely and use it to record you, whilst your having sex with your wife!


Havent over-stepped there bounds?

Your Privacy as you knew it IS "Gone!"

Not just on Android but also on the iPad, the Windows Surface... Anything you load onto your device or onto cloud storage is now the Property of the United States Government... Silly eh?!?


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Posted 1/31/14
As soon as the Patriot Act and the AUMF was signed into law this was inevitable.I came out against it and wrote and voted for the one of the two Senators that voted against the Patriot Act. Former Senator Feingold. His reply letter is still hanging on my wall.
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Well I know a lot of the tech giants are furious about this and I am sure we wont have heard the last of it. They've happily tainted there software and there machine with this and when it comes to oversight and breach of the public trust.. The No Strings Attached agency take the lead above all others.

What enemies is it they're trying to thwart? A load of teenagers in there bed-rooms playing with REAL software? They've already been shown to have sabotaged a lot of the Technology used for security like Cisco Systems, those devices are used to protect commercial Banking!

They're sitting there saying "It's to penetrate hard targets!" clearly there technical knowledge is seriously lacking... Everyone has a wireless device dont they? Well what those hard target's are going to do is simply setup a MESH network not attached to the Internet! Seriously when it comes to brain's, Jar heads in Uniform dont really have the best on the Planet!

There is really no limit to what can be done with that kind of Software & Hardware if it's in the hands of someone Malicious enough to do it!

Ten years from now some bright kid will be sitting in his bedroom and he'll reverse engineer there software, then he'll simply wipe out all those devices and we'll all have the NSA to thank for it!

Having someone tresspass into your system's is still someone tresspassing on private property, there really is no distinction between the two, breaking and entering is still breaking and entering...

Although they can wrap it up and try to re-sell it however they like!

Oh yes, yes, "Cyber-Command".. Well 'Cyber' on the Internet means Sex.. Enjoy your Cyber (Sex) Command!

"Hey Baby, Wanna Cyber???"

Every single computer guru who's ever hacked the US was a teenager in there mid 20's. I dont buy all the bull-pucky about how it's all state sponcered espionage, because the only state I can see spondering it.. Is yours!

Pictures of Syria - Dont really see a lot of Technology Data Centers devoted to hacking the US there, just a lot of flattened buildings..

Pictures out of China - Oh yeah those guys sitting in the Cyber Cafe touted as being the Best in the Red army notice how they all had Windows Vista on the screen!?

America just got caught with it's hand in the Cookie Jar literally and understandably, the rest of the World is "Pissed!"

&& in the wake of it all, have they decided to stop.. well yes & no, there telling you the public we're gonna stop this now, then on the next hand telling all the IT guru's next step is our quantum computer, we'll decrypt the entire internet!

Absolute Senile Dementia!

But dont be too Concerned about your Privacy rights because they've got a new sassy looking privacy officer and they've just stuck "Buck Rodgers!" in Charge!



Here you go Kids!



"This is what a Crazy old man with Far too much Money & Power Look's Like!"

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"And over here we have the Chubby Fat Man, used to be a used Car Salesmen and threaten his workers with a Baseball Bat!"

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"And over here we have a Guy that some people call a tyrant because Chinese kid's used to have there hands bleed putting his products together!"

I am sure they'll be remembered fondly throughout history, but not for all the right reasons!




Complete List of Products Effected Until Further Notice:

Android - Phone // Android - Tablet // Windows - Phone // Windows - Tablet // Apple - iPhone // Apple - iPad // Blackberry - Phone // Blackberry - Tablet

All products "terrorist's" in third world countries can afford to buy!
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No matter how they try to go about this, it's never going to go in there favour!

Because even the Greatest hackers on earth are still thwarted by system's configured with a stateful inspection firewall that prints out lines of who tried to connect from where on a Dot Matrix Printer, you can try to hack there machine, but you cant hack the paper spool.

So they can go right ahead and decrypt the entire internet... it wont make a god damned blind bit of differance!

Because there are some system's, that are just beyond there Reach!

An clearly no "hacker" ever really sat down and told them about it!

But what really makes you angry, is there blind indifferance and stupendous stupidity...

You can take the stupid out of the Computer, but you can't take the stupid out of the Operator!

"And if Privacy is outlawed, then only outlaws will have privacy!" - Phil Zimmerman

Decrypt the internet - You mean decrypt the entire worlds financial systems and completely destroy the entire financial sector overnight?

The most Ludicrous - Hairbrained - Dangerous thing I have ever heard in my Life!

Then we'll really watch the Stock market crash - Overnight, because no one will want to do buisness with anyone if they can't garantee there Banking system is secure!

What a great idea my NSA chum's but pray do tell the rest of the Public world, when you've gone and broken that security layer, what you intend to replace it with afterwards???

Ever set foot into a Bank vault server array? I have and those kind of "Hard targets" have some of the best most unbeatable security in the world! So good luck with Pwning the Net!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e0VvHZMaTs

http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/the-nsa-hated-civilian-encrypted-data-way-back-in-the-1-895351153

Unix and the hackers and the Internet against Microsoft and Hollywood and Big Media. It's a struggle we need to win for all our traditional reasons of professionalism, allegiance to our craft, and mutual tribal loyalty. But there are larger reasons this struggle is important. The possibilities of politics are increasingly shaped by communication technology — who can use it, who can censor it, who can control it.

Government and corporate control of the content of the nets, and of what people can do with their computers, is a severe long-term threat to political freedom. The nightmare scenario is one in which corporate monopolism and statist power-seeking, always natural allies, feed back into each other and create rationales for increasing regulation, repression, and criminalization of digital speech.

In opposing this, we are the warriors of liberty — not merely our own liberty, but everyone else's as well.

This is the US Governments most Secure Operating System (Perhaps the NSA forgot it was out there on the Web, whilst they where otherwise hellbent on World ((Net)) Domination!!)

Here go play with it, the rest of the World already does!

http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/

It's what replaced Unix!

And unlike Linux or BSD which is a hodge podge of User vs Super-user this "Operating System" just treats everything as the Superuser but with a few very noticable differances! Do you know why nobody use's it to any large degree.. Because the people who understand it are reluctant to share how it work's with morons clutching "Security enhanced contexts!" and the "Berkeley in-Secure Daemon!"

:::on Unix, servers run as root: breaking a server gives you full access!
:::on Plan 9, servers run as none: breaking a server gives you nothing!



"Yeah, i'll put my beer, in your Cloud Chimney bitch!"

"MURDERER" - YOU KILLED BARNEBY JACK!



I wonder how it feel's to know deep down that your an idiot who's spent his entire life thinking about taking control of the INTERNET and penetrating the systems of everybody else, turning the entire INTERNET into a warzone,when you could have spent your entire life actually securing the systems you've already got!?

The INTERWEBS are most definately not a War-Zone and the rest of the Civilised Civilian population of 20 year old IT graduates are not: COMBATANTS!

Sorry to be the one to break it to you, "Alex' but you've fucked up and you fucked up Big time!

The Makers of Plan9 some of the founding fathers of our modern INTERNET, designed Plan9 to be impervious to attackers and spies and to stop people like the NSA from doing exactly what it is there trying to do!

....it stops them in there tracks....
Sorry, who?, which user?, what protocol?, which encryption level?... Sorry no connection for you!

AN I SWEAR TO GOD, NEXT TIME I SPEND 800 BUCKS ON A DEVICE THINKING HOW LOVELY IT'LL BE FOR ME TO LIBERATE IT AND FIND I CANT BECAUSE IT BEEN BACKDOORED TO GO **BEEP** **BEEP** WITH MY LOCATION EVERY TEN SECONDS AND TREAT ME LIKE A POTENTIAL TARGET THEN REGARDLESS OF IF YOU OUTRANK ME OR NOT, I'LL GET A LEAD PIPE SHOVE IT UP YOUR BUM AND USE YOU FOR A GOD DAMNED LOLLIPOP!

YOU DIDNT FOLLOW THE WHITE RABBIT!!!



THIS IS GLENDA THE FLUFFY BUNNY! NOBODY GETS PAST GLENDA AND INTO THE BANKS!

A familiar face to many Programmers at the World Stock Exchange
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HIS CO-HORT CLAPPER IS AN EX-VIETNAM VET AND A REPUTED LIER IN FRONT OF CONGRESS AND THE PEOPLE SAYING "NO WE DO NOT DO THAT..." WHEN THEY CATAGORICALLY DO... SO WE'VE GOT A LIER AND A MURDERER! WE KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF YOU.. WELCOME TO THE INTERNET.. WHERE DISHONEST PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE VERY SHORT LIVED! BECAUSE NOW WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU LIVE... SLEEP WELL!

THE RABBIT WAS DESIGNED TO TAKE CARE OF PRICKS LIKE YOU!

IF YOU WHERE SO SHIT HOT AT COMPUTER SECURITY YOUR FILES WOULDNT BE ALL OVER THE WEB!

NICE ONE SNOWDEN!

THEY'RE SHIT HOT AT BREAKING INTO SYSTEMS, SADDLY NOT SO SHIT HOT AT PROTECTING THE SUPREME COURT WEBSITE FROM ANONYMOUS!

THEY ARE LEGION!
THEY DO NOT FORGIVE!
THEY DO NOT FORGET!

ITS CALLED THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER BABE!

RED MERCURY = THATS CLASSIFIED... NOT ANY MORE DIP-SHIT.. THE MINUTE IT HIT THE HEADLINES THE REST OF THE WORLD KNEW EVERYTHING INCLUDING HOW IT WAS PRODUCED!
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It's truely amasing what anyone can find on these pure ass idiots from just doing a web search;

4600 Sangamore Road
Bethesda, Maryland 20816-5003 <-- Clapper

He's g0t the Clap && he lives in texas!

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gen-keith-b-alexander/51/15/a81
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/howard-schmidt/0/88/96b?trk=pub-pbmap
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lawrence-zelvin/10/580/872?trk=pub-pbmap

Whilst you believe the internet is a tool for your online presence you should never forget the internet is also there so other people can track you down! Penis!

Goodness me are those all of your associates and closest friends all pasted online for the whole world to see...

So it is... Now who is truely a "concieted" idiot! (imbecile!)

If you post it online, all of the hacking fraternatity has it, including all of your information...

What are you bitching about my "Nigga!"

Didnt you make it to do exactly what we're going to with it!!!

oops

Central Lack of Intelligence Agency && Joint tasking with the NSA.. Hell yeah!

If your online shit relates to who you really are along with your personal details, then its not a national security concern!?!

Welcome to the digital age...

The sweetness of the BAuD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEPmA3USJdI

Dont forget to feed your doggie!

They'll be sitting there going "Nooo! it wasnt ment to do that!" and my answer will be "exactly you fucking moron!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vskHXtPuvBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbIlLmCID5g

There's something seriously wrong with these people, the journalist investigating the case gets killed when his car gets hacked into and the guy doing research on how dangerous features in your pacemaker can be used to kill you suddenly turn's up dead in his hotel and the death is blamed on drink & drugs, what the fuck is wrong with these spy agencies and these dickheads at the NSA.. What the hell is wrong with doing it the old fashioned way with a hollow point to the base of the Skull? No we need that CYBER technology.. Sadly after what has come to light no Firm is ever going to give it to you again! They should be ashamed, the whole idea of being a "hacker" is to find and fix security bugs.. Not exploit them for your own Gain!

They'll be examining GLENDA right now going how do we use this to our advatage, how do we fuck this up?

You can't, the Bank's arent as stupid as you and niether was the programmers that desgined it!

Consider yourself Schooled!
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I don't mind the NSA spying on me as long as they like watching Boku no Pico 24/7.
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