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Post Reply Did you know that Oriental people are not count as Asians in Britain?
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This deprived from another topic about Indians are not considered as Asians in the States, whilst in Britain, any East Asians are count as "Chinese", and Chinese are not count as Asians (despite being the biggest Asian country in size <Ok, Russia's bigger but it's Euroasia> and population). I kid you not, these are some samples of ethnic equality questionnaires in the UK that companies and government still use today in 2013.


Copied from NHS, the British national health service. This is probably one of the most commonly used British questionnaire, classifying Eastern Asian under the sub-category as "Chinese". They might as well class us as Yellow since others are classed as White or Black.



One university's questionnaire.... How honoured I am as a Chinese person to have our own category



This questionnaire result is from a human rights group. Man I'm gutted that even East Africans are considered Asians but not Chinese or other Chinese people such as Koreans/Japanese/Thais/Cambodians/Filipinos/Indonesians/Malaysians/Nepalis/Laos/Burmese

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oriental is a bad word to use now
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I'd love to take this thread seriously, because it definitely deserves a serious atmosphere.
But the second picture made me laugh way too hard.. I'm sorry.
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oriental is a bad word to use now


Really? I don't find it offensive and the word Oriental is quite widely use in the UK. British people use it in an admiring context so Asians don't really mind.


PressRestart wrote:

I'd love to take this thread seriously, because it definitely deserves a serious atmosphere.
But the second picture made me laugh way too hard.. I'm sorry.



This company has made more effort and made it more in depth.. But still fails!
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AnimeKami wrote:

oriental is a bad word to use now


Really? I don't find it offensive and the word Oriental is quite widely use in the UK. British people use it in an admiring context so Asians don't really mind.


PressRestart wrote:

I'd love to take this thread seriously, because it definitely deserves a serious atmosphere.
But the second picture made me laugh way too hard.. I'm sorry.



This company has made more effort and made it more in depth.. But still fails!


While I wanted to make a comment about the 'Chinese' category, I noticed 'Gypsy'.
What even..? Isn't that word offensive to some people?
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While I wanted to make a comment about the 'Chinese' category, I noticed 'Gypsy'.
What even..? Isn't that word offensive to some people?


It could be offensive to use the word Gypsy in some context, but British government still uses the term Gypsy in official documents, and there's a popular reality TV show called My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding.
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It could be offensive to use the word Gypsy in some context, but British government still uses the term Gypsy in official documents, and there's a popular reality TV show called My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding.


Oh, alright. Sorry for my ignorance on the subject.
But either way, I find the Chinese thing rather ridiculous.. but I guess it could be worse.
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Oh, alright. Sorry for my ignorance on the subject.
But either way, I find the Chinese thing rather ridiculous.. but I guess it could be worse.


Haha no not at all. I questioned the same when I was younger and some gypsies do being referred to as travellers instead, it's probably because there are quite a lot of negative news relating to the word Gypsy and they don't want be viewed as bad people that's all. It's interesting though because in some ethnicity questionnaires, Irish gypsies are classed under the White British category, whilst some class them as an individual group of people.
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tinyd0t wrote:

AnimeKami wrote:
oriental is a bad word to use now

Really? I don't find it offensive and the word Oriental is quite widely use in the UK. British people use it in an admiring context so Asians don't really mind.

In the US the preferred term when talking about people is "East Asian" if you're going to be more specific than "Asian" and less specific than Chinese or Japanese or whatever.

I didn't realize it was still commonly used in the UK.
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Well I'm glad to see that America isn't the only country that suffers from lack of geography knowledge.

I think it's nice that they have Asia split up into two different categories the India group and the what most westerners think of as Asia China and all them (honestly sometimes I forget India is considered part of Asia, I always think of it as it's own thing). I think that the word choice for the categories is unfortunate but I can kind of understand why they did it that way. Briton ruled over India for a long time so to them that is Asia, they probably have China in their own category because the culture is very different then India and is very similar to Japan, Taiwan, Korea, etc. Why is the category called China and not a different country? Simple it's the biggest one in that group.

I don't know if it's really something to get upset over, but if it really bothers you then start a petition for the government to change it.
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Well I'm glad to see that America isn't the only country that suffers from lack of geography knowledge.

I think it's nice that they have Asia split up into two different categories the India group and the what most westerners think of as Asia China and all them (honestly sometimes I forget India is considered part of Asia, I always think of it as it's own thing). I think that the word choice for the categories is unfortunate but I can kind of understand why they did it that way. Briton ruled over India for a long time so to them that is Asia, they probably have China in their own category because the culture is very different then India and is very similar to Japan, Taiwan, Korea, etc. Why is the category called China and not a different country? Simple it's the biggest one in that group.

I don't know if it's really something to get upset over, but if it really bothers you then start a petition for the government to change it.


To be fair I have seen plenty people from other countries who lack knowledge of the world in generally. I can't tell you the amount of people who think that Africa is a country lol! Well it's not so much of a big thing for me because I'm Chinese, but I do feel sorry for the rest of East Asians being classed as an ethnicity that they're not. (It's kinda same as saying all Europeans are Germans).
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now this is just, well confusing on many levels.
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They may not be trying to categorize Chinese as "non-Asian", it's probably that they want to get statistics specifically about Chinese people rather than grouping them more generally with Asia as a whole. Some questionnaires I've seen here in the US will ask if you're African American instead of just black, because they're interested in knowing information trends for African Americans specifically, as opposed to people with black skin (who could be from Africa, or the Caribbean, etc.) So in the form you listed, if the government ever wants to know information about Asia as a whole (including China) they just add together the results they got from both Asia and China. But if they want to know statistics specifically about Chinese people, they can do that because it was listed separately on the form (not possible if it was grouped with Asia).
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In the US the preferred term when talking about people is "East Asian" if you're going to be more specific than "Asian" and less specific than Chinese or Japanese or whatever.

I didn't realize it was still commonly used in the UK.


It's interesting how words can mean different things in terms of meaning and context in different places even though it's the same language. Yip you see the word Oriental to describe pretty much everything, supermarkets, food labels, restaurants, arts and women. In general, the word Oriental is used in a complimentary way rather than degrading/offensive.
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kilikikero wrote:

They may not be trying to categorize Chinese as "non-Asian", it's probably that they want to get statistics specifically about Chinese people rather than grouping them more generally with Asia as a whole. Some questionnaires I've seen here in the US will ask if you're African American instead of just black, because they're interested in knowing information trends for African Americans specifically, as opposed to people with black skin (who could be from Africa, or the Caribbean, etc.) So in the form you listed, if the government ever wants to know information about Asia as a whole (including China) they just add together the results they got from both Asia and China. But if they want to know statistics specifically about Chinese people, they can do that because it was listed separately on the form (not possible if it was grouped with Asia).


This is what I thought.
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