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Post Reply Did you know that Oriental people are not count as Asians in Britain?
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It's like they got bored when they reached asians and said "they all look the same anyways, let's just call them Chinese"
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I usually tick "other" despite my long ass name since it's a pin yin of my chinese name. Technically I'm british... BBC yesh.

PS. My opinion on why it's only a category of "Chinese", is because the japs, koreans, taiwan, hk's etc all pretty much originated from China. But I could also say Americans are made of internationals lol
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FlyinDumpling wrote:

It's like they got bored when they reached asians and said "they all look the same anyways, let's just call them Chinese"


Probably...
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Interwebs deduction: Almond Eyes = Asian

Nuff Said :U
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They may not be trying to categorize Chinese as "non-Asian", it's probably that they want to get statistics specifically about Chinese people rather than grouping them more generally with Asia as a whole. Some questionnaires I've seen here in the US will ask if you're African American instead of just black, because they're interested in knowing information trends for African Americans specifically, as opposed to people with black skin (who could be from Africa, or the Caribbean, etc.) So in the form you listed, if the government ever wants to know information about Asia as a whole (including China) they just add together the results they got from both Asia and China. But if they want to know statistics specifically about Chinese people, they can do that because it was listed separately on the form (not possible if it was grouped with Asia).


Good thinking! It makes sense.
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I don't know what I am!

Where is the American check box?
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What about those of us who are unsure of our combined ethnicity due to the propensity of our forefathers to run off?

Actually, I found the UK ethnicity list to be pretty thorough, considering how pathetic our ethnic categories are here in the US. This isn't a joke - they're pretty much all limited to white (non-hispanic), white (hispanic), native, black/African American, asian, and islander.
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That categorizes me as "any other mixed background". I don't even make the list.
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"East African Asian"



Somebody shoot me now, or better yet shoot the organisation responsible for this mess.
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tinyd0t wrote:

This deprived from another topic about Indians are not considered as Asians in the States, whilst in Britain, any East Asians are count as "Chinese", and Chinese are not count as Asians (despite being the biggest Asian country in size <Ok, Russia's bigger but it's Euroasia> and population). I kid you not, these are some samples of ethnic equality questionnaires in the UK that companies and government still use today in 2013.


Copied from NHS, the British national health service. This is probably one of the most commonly used British questionnaire, classifying Eastern Asian under the sub-category as "Chinese". They might as well class us as Yellow since others are classed as White or Black.



One university's questionnaire.... How honoured I am as a Chinese person to have our own category



This questionnaire result is from a human rights group. Man I'm gutted that even East Africans are considered Asians but not Chinese or other Chinese people such as Koreans/Japanese/Thais/Cambodians/Filipinos/Indonesians/Malaysians/Nepalis/Laos/Burmese



LMAFAOOO WHOEVER MADE THE SURVEYS IS STUPID.

ETHNIC GROUP JEWISH??

Lol its a religion? Yeah that's how you know how painfully ignorant they are.
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What about those of us who are unsure of our combined ethnicity due to the propensity of our forefathers to run off?

Actually, I found the UK ethnicity list to be pretty thorough, considering how pathetic our ethnic categories are here in the US. This isn't a joke - they're pretty much all limited to white (non-hispanic), white (hispanic), native, black/African American, asian, and islander.


I'm actually really surprised that you guys separate Caucasian into 2 separate catogory such as "white" and "Hispanic", in the UK, there's mostly just one category for Caucasian which is White British (or sometimes white European), and other Europeans such as Spanish and Portuguese just fall into the same category as white British.

Ps. Does the lists expand from the drop-down bars?
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kilikikero wrote:

They may not be trying to categorize Chinese as "non-Asian", it's probably that they want to get statistics specifically about Chinese people rather than grouping them more generally with Asia as a whole. Some questionnaires I've seen here in the US will ask if you're African American instead of just black, because they're interested in knowing information trends for African Americans specifically, as opposed to people with black skin (who could be from Africa, or the Caribbean, etc.) So in the form you listed, if the government ever wants to know information about Asia as a whole (including China) they just add together the results they got from both Asia and China. But if they want to know statistics specifically about Chinese people, they can do that because it was listed separately on the form (not possible if it was grouped with Asia).


Your analogy make sense, but what doesn't make sense (and slightly racist) is that they sometimes categorise other East Asians under "Chinese". And people would give me odd looks when I say that I'm Asian, because the general concept of an Asian person in Britain is Indian/Pakistani/Bangledeshi.

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oriental is a bad word to use now


Really? I don't find it offensive and the word Oriental is quite widely use in the UK. British people use it in an admiring context so Asians don't really mind.


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I'd love to take this thread seriously, because it definitely deserves a serious atmosphere.
But the second picture made me laugh way too hard.. I'm sorry.



This company has made more effort and made it more in depth.. But still fails!


Agreed. I've noticed that a lot of Americans tend to think that words that are offensive over there are offensive in all English-speaking countries. I mean, it's fair enough that Orientals aren't considered 'Asian' in questionnaires given that we primarily associate 'Asian' with South-Asian ethnicities here in the UK, but some of the omissions they've made are pretty ridiculous. You've pointed out a glaring one.

As someone of Turkish decent, I'm personally miffed at how the Middle-East is never a separate category on these things. It's not the same thing as South-Asian at all! It comprises of parts of North Africa, the Arabian peninsula and some countries just West of South Asia such as Turkey, Iraq and Iran.

Just another region of the world that doesn't exist in the eyes of the public. It's pretty much 'white people, black people, brown people and the yellow ones.'
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i find them forms to be strange no matter where you're from.

an actual tick box at my college

are you from:

English,welsh,scottish, island and british. (this is how its spelt on the list)

o-o so if i tick this box will also be welsh and scottish;when did Britain become it's own country.
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I like the term oriental much better than Asian. Oriental literally means eastern. What is Asian?? From Lebanon to Vietnam? Really How is that descriptive???
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