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Did you know that Oriental people are not count as Asians in Britain?
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Posted 6/9/13

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that's the point

why go through all the country names just to say British.

by saying all the names singularly you are giving the impression that it is its own place.



And then you'll find the odd person to say that Scottish, Cornish, Irish, Welsh and Manx should be classed under Celts, and English people are Anglo-Saxons. lol
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Let's say they are a mexican (or Latin American country) family that moves there, then what?


I'm afraid Britain isn't diversified enough to have South Americans or North Americans available on the ethnic group. So at this point, it really depends on how well you know your family trees (going back a couple of hundred years) to identify who you are.
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tigerwolf29

Let's say they are a mexican (or Latin American country) family that moves there, then what?


I'm afraid Britain isn't diversified enough to have South Americans or North Americans available on the ethnic group. So at this point, it really depends on how well you know your family trees (going back a couple of hundred years) to identify who you are.


I see. Thanks for answering my silly questions
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I'm from Britain and I never realised this, I've always classed anyone from asia as asian and usually say oriental-asian if I'm making a distinction.
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quaser666 wrote:

I'm from Britain and I never realised this, I've always classed anyone from asia as asian and usually say oriental-asian if I'm making a distinction.


same. i guess you don't if your white British you just tick the box get on with it XD
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I'm actually really surprised that you guys separate Caucasian into 2 separate catogory such as "white" and "Hispanic", in the UK, there's mostly just one category for Caucasian which is White British (or sometimes white European), and other Europeans such as Spanish and Portuguese just fall into the same category as white British.

Ps. Does the lists expand from the drop-down bars?

No, they do not expand. That's all there is. Sometimes there is a box marked "other", which may or may not provide a space to fill in.

There is a separate category for "white hispanic" because even white people from Latin America and Mexico are subject to (lesser) discrimination here in the US, as many here are convinced that immigrants (documented or otherwise) are ruining our economy and stealing their jobs and tax dollars. Whether or not that is true, anyone with the wrong last name gets it sometimes. For example, when my friend moved her family into our school district, her children were both put into ESL for a month before they were moved into regular classes, even though their only language is English. Her ex-husband is half Filipino, and so they have a Spanish last name.

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I think its funnier that the British government lists Irish as a different ethnic group lol...
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I think its funnier that the British government lists Irish as a different ethnic group lol...


My boyfriend is Northern Irish and he identifies himself as Irish over British in terms of ethnicity. Perhaps it's a sense of nationalism? But I guess it's better to have all the options available if the government wants an accurate result.
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same. i guess you don't if your white British you just tick the box get on with it XD


But what if you're orange.. Now wouldn't they be classed as East Asians since yellow and orange are a closer match than orange and white? Just saying..

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Hmm, I am not sure why that is in Britain..........
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kitsuneshoujo wrote:

I think its funnier that the British government lists Irish as a different ethnic group lol...


My boyfriend is Northern Irish and he identifies himself as Irish over British in terms of ethnicity. Perhaps it's a sense of nationalism? But I guess it's better to have all the options available if the government wants an accurate result.


It's because they are
1) one of our largest recognisable ethnic groups and
2) heavily discriminated against at least up until really recently.
The discrimination (up till the 70s at least) was really racism, and there were a substantial number of hate crimes and employment issues, it was all embroiled in the troubles as well, so there was and is a lot of bad blood..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment#20th_century_onward does not even scratch the surface

If we were to lump them in with white British then essential services and aid could not be sensibly directed. Legal issues of whether it could class as discrimination if it was just two generic whitefolk etc.

It's odd but you have to remember Racism is not always to do with the colour of your skin.
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oriental is a bad word to use now

Really? I don't find it offensive and the word Oriental is quite widely use in the UK. British people use it in an admiring context so Asians don't really mind.

In the US the preferred term when talking about people is "East Asian" if you're going to be more specific than "Asian" and less specific than Chinese or Japanese or whatever.

I didn't realize it was still commonly used in the UK.



Not sure where you are from in the U.S. but many parts still say Oriental, only thing we see in the terms asian is normally when they are categorizing our races on Census forms and job applications.
Even my asian people I know prefer it Oriental as it pertains more to their cultures. They also tend to find it a more friendly term then categories of wrong use of the guessing game of where it originated from which at times is felt to be racist when people converse.





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To be fair I have seen plenty people from other countries who lack knowledge of the world in generally. I can't tell you the amount of people who think that Africa is a country lol! Well it's not so much of a big thing for me because I'm Chinese, but I do feel sorry for the rest of East Asians being classed as an ethnicity that they're not. (It's kinda same as saying all Europeans are Germans).




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lorreen wrote:
In the US the preferred term when talking about people is "East Asian" if you're going to be more specific than "Asian" and less specific than Chinese or Japanese or whatever.

I didn't realize it was still commonly used in the UK.

Not sure where you are from in the U.S. but many parts still say Oriental, only thing we see in the terms asian is normally when they are categorizing our races on Census forms and job applications.
Even my asian people I know prefer it Oriental as it pertains more to their cultures. They also tend to find it a more friendly term then categories of wrong use of the guessing game of where it originated from which at times is felt to be racist when people converse.

I was thinking mostly of official forms--as that's what was brought up in the original post. While I am aware that Oriental may still be in everyday use for some, I admit that I haven't personally encountered it (I live in New England, near Boston). I don't think I've every heard any of my friends, coworkers, or acquaintances use Oriental that way, except one, and he was British.
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Your analogy make sense, but what doesn't make sense (and slightly racist) is that they sometimes categorise other East Asians under "Chinese". And people would give me odd looks when I say that I'm Asian, because the general concept of an Asian person in Britain is Indian/Pakistani/Bangledeshi.



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