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Post Reply Rape-- Does the way you dress have nothing to do with it?
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Posted 6/14/14
Given the type of threads they seem to make, it's not a big surprise that the OP has been banned.
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Sad to say in some cases it can be part of it. But most of the time people rape others to show dominance, to show how weak the person being raped is. All rapists should be hung by their big toes and poked with spears
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MopZ wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvznuTNZDM

This!


Best video on the subject ever.
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Posted 6/14/14 , edited 6/14/14
The way you dress can have an effect on how you're treated. That should be obvious. Some clothing is going to advertise your body more than other clothing. Pretending that's not the case is being willfully ignorant. So if you're dressed provocatively, I can see someone coming up and maybe asking you out or even just looking your way being justified. If you don't want that, then don't dress how you dress.

That said, nothing you wear will ever have anything to do with rape. People are raped purely because someone sees them and decides they want what they want and don't care who gets hurt in the process. It's crossing a line that should never be crossed. It has absolutely zero to do with what a person is wearing. You can dress like a stereotypical street walker, or you can dress like a buttoned-down math teacher, it really doesn't matter. If someone is big enough to overpower you and wants to, they'll do it regardless of what you have on. To suggest that clothing is somehow to blame for rape is moronic.

If you're not literally asking for it, then you're not asking for it. It's not rocket science and the fact that someone felt that they needed a thread to debate this in the first place is legitimately depressing.
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I saw this thing the other day which was basically women dressing in little clothing and then saying "Still not asking for it". And i completely agree in that sense. You're not asking for it... However, dressing particularly insensibly when you do not need to increases your chances...

Put it this way, If i began yelling abuse at people, i'm not asking to be punched in the face, however, the chances of me getting punched in the face are increased...
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lordseth23 wrote:

I think the psychological make-up of the rapist is the cause for any rape, not the clothing that the victim wears.


Amen!
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People can put themselves in high-risk situations. Alcohol, drugs, locations and the people they associate with can all lead to one being ravaged.
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I often see bandied about the idea that men can't be expected to control ourselves when presented with something that titillates us. That we're primal, hormone-powered machines, bereft of any sort of higher reasoning or sense of responsibility. This argument is used all the time when blaming victims of rape for bringing it on themselves. The victim should be smarter, because men are slaves to impulse. I mean, you don't want that poor boy not to be able to get into a good college, right?

...and then the same people making that argument will turn around and say that women shouldn't be politicians because they're too emotional while men are more rational.
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Posted 26 days ago

itsvesper wrote:

I saw this thing the other day which was basically women dressing in little clothing and then saying "Still not asking for it". And i completely agree in that sense. You're not asking for it... However, dressing particularly insensibly when you do not need to increases your chances...

Put it this way, If i began yelling abuse at people, i'm not asking to be punched in the face, however, the chances of me getting punched in the face are increased...


I'm siding with you on this one.
Posted 23 days ago , edited 20 days ago

but if you think that dressing has nothing what so ever to do with rape, please post, and reason WHY you think so.


I find it utterly disturbing how many people would rather victim-blame than go after the rapists. The way a woman dresses--let alone anybody--isn't an open invitation to sexually assault someone. If you honestly think that way, I'm sorry but you need some serious help.

Back in the 17th century when women were wearing dresses down to their ankles, they were still getting raped. So clothes are not the issue, it's rape apologists, the rapists themselves, and society at large that are using clothes to justify why that particular woman somehow "deserved" to get raped.

No one deserves to get raped. Wearing revealing clothes, "suggestive" clothes, or clothes that are seen as "slutty" or "whorish" or "hookerish" does not mean a person is more likely to get raped; they're just more likely to get blamed.

And I have to ask people what they think about all the pictures and quotes below:



And I have to ask why do people want to blame the victims? Why are people saying "don't be a tease," "well what do expect when you walk out the house looking like that?", "you were just seeking attention and when you got it you want to cry rape"?

These people went through something traumatic and probably already had those same exact words spoken to them when they told someone or possibly while they were being raped, so why are people going out of their way to tell them and potential victims all this again? Why can't we try to protect rape victims instead of their attackers and potential attackers?


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man I am in no way a progressive on the front lines of societal advancement, but it's ridiculous to blame an act as aggressive and power oriented as rape on what someone chooses to wear. A woman could CHOOSE to be butt naked and it still wouldn't make it right to go force them to do whatever just cause the person aint got the skills or the common sense to play the game the right way. And yes, I realize that calling this extended dating ritual a game is childish, but I am a childish person, oh well. But if my dumb ass knows better this shouldnt even be a question, in my humblest of opinions
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If you're in heat, you're in heat. How you deal with it that matters. Just because you're horny it doesn't mean you can just cause a crime.





It doesn't take an expert to strip someone down naked with just their eyes.

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Posted 20 days ago , edited 20 days ago

ILikeBeer wrote:

man I am in no way a progressive on the front lines of societal advancement, but it's ridiculous to blame an act as aggressive and power oriented as rape on what someone chooses to wear.


Compared to a large number of people, you are quite progressive. That's how fucked people in this world are.

I don't even understand why this is even a topic we still need to keep going over. Anyone who who is doing nothing violent and has violence acted upon them is not at fault for said violence. This is really simple stuff.

If you punch someone in the head and expect "But they have a really punchable looking head! It was just ASKING to get punched!" to be considered anything other than the ramblings of an insane person, you are going to be in for a serious shock.
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As a practical matter certain cloth probably make it easier for an attacker in terms of taking them off, but asking for it, no. If they were asking for it, it wouldn't be rape.
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I think the biggest problem in reading through this thread is assigning normal behaviour patterns (i.e., a guy becoming sexually interested by seeing an attractive woman) to something of aberrant behaviour (rape). Just because a man (or a woman for that matter) may see someone they would like to approach, may even make them want to begin a relationship (and lets face it, sexual desirability has a lot to do with a relationship, no matter how much they say their personality matters etc, etc) that doesn't mean that if she's wearing a mini-skirt he is going to pull her dress up and go for it. An attractive miniskirt may indicate her desire to have a sexual encounter, but it also might not, that's what you'll learn by mustering up the courage and talking to her (or him if appropriate... although I doubt a guy would be wearing a mini-skirt!).

Therefore, dress I would have to say might only have a very superficial involvement (because I think it's asinine to completely disregard the possibility) but that there could be many many more (important) factors involved, but I don't think this is blaming the victim for the actions of another no matter how someone may try to spin it, at the end of the day a persons actions is the responsibility of that person.

Also, I can say that I was taught that 'no means no', but that could be the nature of my upbringing in Australia as opposed to other locales.
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