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Post Reply Rape-- Does the way you dress have nothing to do with it?
Myki52 
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Posted 8/3/13
Rape is an act of violence, not sex! Men have raped other men, elderly, and children. It is mearly a way to demonstrate that that persons more powerful than the victim. They can use the excuse that they were provoked, but regardless, they chose to do something against another person's will.

The bottom line is that the rapist is responsible, not the victim. No matter what they are wearing or doing. We are not apes. We don't show our asses to invite copulation. We live in a society where we believe we can safely dress however we choose.

I was the victim of an attempted rape. I was wearing typical jeans and t-shirt. I simply made the mistake of allowing myself to be alone with someone I thought I could trust. He had a knife and threatened to use it if I screamed. I screamed anyway, and he backed off and let me go. I spent years wondering what I'd done wrong, thinking of it as a sexual thing. Once I redefined it, it made more sense.
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Posted 8/5/13

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I'm no expert in criminology but... I'm 95% certain that clothing have anything to do with increasing the chance of getting raped.


If that were the case, then there wouldn't be any child rape victims... children don't wear provoking clothes or have provoking body structure.

In my opinion, rape has more to do with the perpetrator's mental instability, sexual repression and childhood violence/sexual abuse history. Or any combination of those three.


A normal person has a certain level of empathy that a rapist's mentality lacks.


I agree that it mostly has to do with the mentality of the rapist but you can't completely refute the affects of physical triggers. The human mind is hardwired to respond to physical aspects of the human body. Ex.) A man is affected by the physical aspect of a woman's breast or hips. The human body, male and female, relay information to the other sex of the health of the individual. For example: Skin complexion gives a certain amount of information of the health of the person, the hips (in the case of women) shows the ability to bear children and the same goes for the breast. Though I think the mental state of a person is the most important factor on the subject of rape.
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Kelliher89 wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

I'm no expert in criminology but... I'm 95% certain that clothing have anything to do with increasing the chance of getting raped.


If that were the case, then there wouldn't be any child rape victims... children don't wear provoking clothes or have provoking body structure.

In my opinion, rape has more to do with the perpetrator's mental instability, sexual repression and childhood violence/sexual abuse history. Or any combination of those three.


A normal person has a certain level of empathy that a rapist's mentality lacks.


I agree that it mostly has to do with the mentality of the rapist but you can't completely refute the affects of physical triggers. The human mind is hardwired to respond to physical aspects of the human body. Ex.) A man is affected by the physical aspect of a woman's breast or hips. The human body, male and female, relay information to the other sex of the health of the individual. For example: Skin complexion gives a certain amount of information of the health of the person, the hips (in the case of women) shows the ability to bear children and the same goes for the breast. Though I think the mental state of a person is the most important factor on the subject of rape.


I think the major point though is that in cases of rape, people will jump at the chance to throw the way the victim dressed into consideration, trying to use a means to push the blame on the victim when really, you should be blaming the rapist 100% for deciding to harm someone in the first place. I know some clothing can be provocative but that type of conversation tends to drown out the beneficial conversations about how to prevent rapists from raping rather than making sure the rapist gets the next girl instead.
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Posted 8/6/13

GayAsianBoy wrote:

I'm no expert in criminology but... I'm 95% certain that clothing have anything to do with increasing the chance of getting raped.


If that were the case, then there wouldn't be any child rape victims... children don't wear provoking clothes or have provoking body structure.

In my opinion, rape has more to do with the perpetrator's mental instability, sexual repression and childhood violence/sexual abuse history. Or any combination of those three.


A normal person has a certain level of empathy that a rapist's mentality lacks.


I wholly agree with everything. *worships*

A sane guy would never rape a girl no matter how she is dressed as...they can think about wanting to have sex with them but they wouldn't force themselves upon any girl/boy (boys get raped too). Only sick bastards would ever do such acts, and they will rape no matter if the girl is dressed as a nun or as a slut.

Those who rape kids deserve to be burnt alive!
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Posted 8/6/13
Honestly? Sure, wearing small clothing can make any normal guy get aroused; which is pretty embarassing for them.
But it should NEVER provoke rape in a sane person.



In any case, I will still wear whatever I want to, skimpy or not.
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Posted 8/6/13 , edited 8/6/13

HellaStrider wrote:


Kelliher89 wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

I'm no expert in criminology but... I'm 95% certain that clothing have anything to do with increasing the chance of getting raped.


If that were the case, then there wouldn't be any child rape victims... children don't wear provoking clothes or have provoking body structure.

In my opinion, rape has more to do with the perpetrator's mental instability, sexual repression and childhood violence/sexual abuse history. Or any combination of those three.


A normal person has a certain level of empathy that a rapist's mentality lacks.


I agree that it mostly has to do with the mentality of the rapist but you can't completely refute the affects of physical triggers. The human mind is hardwired to respond to physical aspects of the human body. Ex.) A man is affected by the physical aspect of a woman's breast or hips. The human body, male and female, relay information to the other sex of the health of the individual. For example: Skin complexion gives a certain amount of information of the health of the person, the hips (in the case of women) shows the ability to bear children and the same goes for the breast. Though I think the mental state of a person is the most important factor on the subject of rape.


I think the major point though is that in cases of rape, people will jump at the chance to throw the way the victim dressed into consideration, trying to use a means to push the blame on the victim when really, you should be blaming the rapist 100% for deciding to harm someone in the first place. I know some clothing can be provocative but that type of conversation tends to drown out the beneficial conversations about how to prevent rapists from raping rather than making sure the rapist gets the next girl instead.



That is true the person who initiates the confrontation should be held at fault. I just want to make sure I was clear, that physical aspects (body or clothing) may convey messages to people consciously or subconsciously. I think what people are saying about the what-the-victim-wore is that it (appearances) conveys a message which can be misconstrued, which could lead to serious problems(rape). A kind of judgment of a book by its cover.In general, people presume things about people based upon how they dress or talk. I am not saying that it is the victims fault but people need to understand that how you present yourself can lead to how people around you act and perceive you. A person who has a warped mentality may perceive your attire in the wrong way.
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Posted 8/6/13
Well, wearing revealing or 'sexy' clothes would definitely increase the risk, because it makes you more desirable or appealing, I'd imagine.
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Posted 8/15/13
First of all, RAPE IS NOT OKAY WHETHER OR NOT THE GIRL IS WEARING SEXY CLOTHES.
If someone gets raped, they get raped. It doesn't matter if the girl is wearing nothing but a bra, rape is never ever okay. Sure, it'll "provoke" rape/sexual attention, but are men such animals that they have no self control? No.
That being said, whoever it is that is raping the other has a SERIOUS mental disorder and needs to get checked up. I can't tell you how many times I've heard of a rapist's lawyer going "Oh well she was dressed this way"- NO NO NO NO NO. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING should ever justify rape or unwanted sexual advances.
The biggest factor in rape is the rapist. It is not the victim's fault. So no, clothes shouldn't/doesn't have anything to do with why someone raped someone. They raped because they're a disgusting human being.
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Posted 8/15/13
._. I was in a QuickTrip wearing an Adventure Time sweater, I look like I'm 15 but I'm not really and 25+ year olds were hitting on me in the store. So apparently its not all what you wear that attracts potentially dangerous individuals. I do think that if you are wearing sleezy clothes people may be more attracted than wearing a t-shirt though...
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Posted 9/15/13 , edited 9/15/13
Clothing may catch a person's eye yes but it does not justify a woman being raped. Honestly, walking around butt a$$ naked doesn't justify it. Nothing justifies it. There is no "asking for it" or "deserving it" it is a person's, read rapist's, lack of self control that causes it. A man, or woman because let's get real the ish could possibly occur, can see somebody and think that they are attractive and see some cleavage or pecs and feel turned on for lack of a better phrase but that does not mean that they have the right to go up and force themselves upon that person without there consent. So the basic overview of this mini-paragraph I suppose would be tat clothing, whether scarce or worn in abundance, has absolutely nothing to do with rape, it is the fault of the rapist and the rapist alone for not being able to control themselves.

Edit: Also, for those saying that sexy clothes makes you a higher risk please read this, specifically bullet number 2.
http://www.yourbestselfdefenseproducts.com/rapists_eyes
The easiest clothing to remove may not be a tight fitting dress or some intricately woven sexy shorts. Honestly, it would probably be easier to cut a mildly baggy t-shirt.
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Posted 9/15/13
Yeah, it increases the risk. Saying that it doesn't affect it all is just plain dumb.
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Posted 9/15/13 , edited 9/15/13
regardless of how a woman's dressed, she's not asking to get raped. it's the fault of the rapist. it's because people think "well, she was dressed slutty" more people are willing to justify it using that excuse. does a rich guy wearing a Rolex ask for his watch to get stolen by wearing it down a busy street? no, it's the person who decides to commit the crime that's at fault. "well, he was wearing a $20,0000 watch, so he was asking for it" wouldn't cut it in courts. i hate that so many damn rapists get away with it b/c of this "she was asking for it by wearing sexy clothing" assumption crap. women shouldn't have to assess whether or not a potential out fit may be a danger to her because of some self-entitled, chauvinistic jerk might become SO aroused that he can't HELP but rape her. it's such bull crap. it's not her fault you can't keep it in your pants & treat her with the respect she deserves as a human being, not a sex object. rawr.
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Posted 9/15/13
Don't blame the victim.
Posted 9/19/13 , edited 9/19/13
Imo it's not wrong to be sexually attracted to someone whose manner of dress provokes a sexual reaction. It is wrong to continue to "pursue" them after they express disinterest. However, if a girl does not want to be viewed in that kind of light, I don't think she ought to dress like that in the first place. I once discussed this with another girl who couldn't tell the difference between being HIT ON and sexual harassment. I really don't understand girls who dress like that in public and expect nothing in return - I could be wrong but just because you hadn't thought about any messages you might be sending out to others doesn't mean they aren't being sent out.
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