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Posted 6/11/13
That's why a lot of sites have a critics' reviews sections and a users' review section. But no matter what people will disagree with reviews. Just rate it how you see it, don't worry about how others will react.
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The main problem is that everything is rated the same. Hence there is no value in the rating system. As has been mentioned, the solution right now is to read reviews and go to external sites.

The critics' review section is an interesting idea. Then how does one become a critic that is recognized by the community?
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Posted 6/11/13
Most of the community on any website like this is at least somewhat weeaboo-ish and cancerous.
Anyone who rates every anime with five stars is ridiculous.
Anyone who rates anime with one star without decent reasoning is ridiculous.
Reviews written on series that haven't aired or with only 1-7 episodes out... You get the point.
Crunchyroll isn't really known for having viewers with a lot of experience.
No offense or anything, but it's true.

inb4 I'm wrong
inb4 WW3 breaks out because of me
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Posted 6/11/13 , edited 9/14/14
I would say the issue is also the lack of action when people see something poor. I know for me personally, if I am watching something and it drops below, I don't know, call it my 4 stars, I stop watching. Period. I don't go back, which also means I don't rate it.

Fans have the will to show their support for certain shows, but detractors don't always have the same passion for putting a show down as the fans do of lifting it up. And this is just one factor of many that lead to over inflated ratings.

But there in lies what the rating system really is. A way for fans to show their support. Reflect, and share why they thought something was omfgbbqsauce awesome. Maybe it needs a rename so people don't ..... assume too much out of it (like you are doing).

Ultimately though, there isn't a reason to fix it. If you use only the rating system to figure out whether or not you are going to watch something, you are lazy. I know there are plenty of things out there that I watch and enjoy that critics say is worthless, and there are plenty of things I watch and hate that critics say is the best thing ever. By this point in time, you should have sources which YOU trust on whether or not you will enjoy something or not. You have the internet; watch a trailer, check out an episode, read a review, and ffs put some effort into your own entertainment. There is no point to complain about one feature on a website when you have, literally at your finger tips, your own solution to the problem.
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I feel that 5 star rating is crap anyway. I like having 10 stars, because it's closer to the 0-100 scale, which makes more sense. Also, I feel that a half star rating should be a thing. Sometimes anime aren't whole stars. Maybe something is a 2.5 or a 3.5. Maybe I don't want to round up or down. I just feel they need to redo their whole system. Also, I never watch a show based on rating. I watch it because they premise sounds interesting. I don't trust other people's taste much because I am a unusual individual. Anime like Pupa are interesting (not the actually anime; the concept and the gore cause that anime was God awful), but I do like comedy, romance, and shonen. Obviously, my tastes are weird, so I can't follow anyone's advice on shows. Hope that sort of makes sense... :/
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XishaletLaforet wrote:

I feel that 5 star rating is crap anyway. I like having 10 stars, because it's closer to the 0-100 scale, which makes more sense. Also, I feel that a half star rating should be a thing. Sometimes anime aren't whole stars. Maybe something is a 2.5 or a 3.5. Maybe I don't want to round up or down. I just feel they need to redo their whole system. Also, I never watch a show based on rating. I watch it because they premise sounds interesting. I don't trust other people's taste much because I am a unusual individual. Anime like Pupa are interesting (not the actually anime; the concept and the gore cause that anime was God awful), but I do like comedy, romance, and shonen. Obviously, my tastes are weird, so I can't follow anyone's advice on shows. Hope that sort of makes sense... :/


I've never really bothered with the ratings on CR, it just seems like everything is either 4 or 5 stars. If they converted to a 10-star scale, that would just mean all the shows are rated 8-10 stars.
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Posted 4/6/14 , edited 4/6/14
Well, as long as others are offering their opinions on ratings, I may as well, too. I'm not demanding anything here, just offering my thoughts on what I would do instead, since that seems to be the topic of conversation.

I do believe this is all just wishful thinking anyway, it's kind of late now to do anything about it here without starting over, which would probably upset quite a few people who have taken the old system seriously and already participated. Inherent in that statement is my agreement with others that the old system doesn't have much practical value, either, and that's why I don't (currently) bother to participate in it (but I would certainly make recommendation votes if some of this would be seriously considered)

Why do we look at ratings? Two reasons:

  • To validate our own feelings after we have already watched
  • To find a new show to watch that we haven't seen that other people thought highly of

I believe ratings should just be counts: one person, one "vote". If you allow gradients, then a person giving out a five or a ten, depending on scale, effectively gave their vote more weight than a person not so "enthusiastic" about it. It's one reason you see so many fives in the existing system. Voting less than a 5 means your vote literally means less than someone who did vote 5 (or 1, if you're downvoting something).

Similar to Rotten Tomatoes, but not exactly, I think there should only be three choices as "values" for a rating to present as a recommendation, any gradient isn't useful.

  • Not recommended
  • Meh (or words to that effect)
  • Recommended

A separate checkbox could be added for "Yes I did/will rewatch", which would give an additional data point of interest.

That way what you can show is literally how many people liked it vs. some silly average carried out to way too many decimals of precision with two shows potentially being ranked nearly the same, but one had 10 people rating it and the other had 10,000. You could still present an average of "likes" to "dislikes" if you want to optionally do that, as well.

That's not to say everyone can't keep their own personal system to track everything they have watched for their own recordkeeping if they so desire. Sites like myanimelist, Hummingbird, Anime-Planet already exist with that in place. Knock yourself out, but it doesn't belong in a popular ranking. Whether you rate something as an 8 or as a 9 isn't really useful, that's just the testosterone/estrogen talking. It's only whether each person liked it or not, that's what counts.

Having said the above:

  • Just like a poll, participants only get to vote once, but you should be allowed to change your mind.
  • I think you should only allow Premium Members to participate, or at least have CR Points involved in it somehow...
  • I think you should divorce the ranking from the reviews, and allow someone to rank a show without giving a review and someone to give a review without scoring. Go ahead and give a review after only one episode now that it isn't connected to your vote
  • Voting a recommendation on a show shouldn't be allowed unless the user's history has shown that they have watched some minimum amount of episodes, like three, or six.(because now you can due to the point just above divorcing rank from review)

Since the ranking and the reviews would (then) be separate, your review can still say whatever it wants to express how much you like something. You can even say "I give this a 10 out of 10", or "this was complete drek" in so many words there. So you can still give a gradient rating opinion (or not) without overpowering someone else's vote. (Again, one person, one equal vote)

And, yes, of course there still needs to be the "Report as Spam" link to alert mods when someone's mother made 1034 dollars by visiting a website, and the "Like" link (did you find this useful) for each review.

But take a page from the Facebook philosophy and don't allow for "dislike" feedback on the reviews. There is a reason (to prevent drive-by trolling) why it is important to only allow Like feedback and why Facebook does not have a "dislike" button. It simply isn't necessary. If there are no, or very few likes, then that makes the exact same point, but trolls don't get any satisfaction from their boredom...And that concept should also be applied to feedback on comments from news articles and individual episodes as well.


TL;DR The current rating system should be changed to mere counts of people recommending or not.
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Posted 4/6/14
This is very true. Unfortunately, giving valid criticism in the anime community is literally considered taboo to most (not all) people. It's sickening how this community is plagued by fanboys.
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There are two things that come to mind when I read this forum...

First off, I have written several reviews and there are two reasons I write reviews. One, to help improve my god awful English by getting feedback from my buddies who read my reviews, and two, to share the multiple series that I fully enjoy. So why are my reviews 4/5 stars? Because I'm only reviewing what I feel strongly about. If you look at it from that perspective, almost all of my reviews are going to be either on the extreme high or low end. This plays a motivation factor for others as well. After all, not many people review simply for the sake of reviewing, nor are they going to review every series they watch here. Basically look more at the volume of reviews a show has when making your final decision on whether or not watching it.

Secondly, feedback definitely plays a role here. I'm not 100% sure, but it appears that newer reviews and reviews with highest positive feedback appear to float to the top of the review page. If you are simply reviewing for the sake of reviewing, you want people to visit your page. Meaning, you’re obviously going to want people to read your review so that they will visit your page to see what else you have written. Giving a one, two, or three star review to a show with 5,000 five star reviews is going to render your review useless. No one is going to go to the 47th page just to find out what you said. The opposite is also true. Let’s say you really like a particular show, so you give it five stars. But, the show has a TON of negative reviews. The same thing will occur. Even not taking into account the "I want you to notice me, senpai" ordeal, there still is the matter of your personal feelings to take into account. If time is taken in order to write a review, there is the possibility that you put some thought into it. If that's the case it’s likely that you’re emotionally invested into your work. Let’s face it, no one wants to see something they’ve worked hard on get negative feedback just because they don't agree. There’s simply no pleasing everyone.

In conclusion, we as readers need to ask ourselves some questions: what is it that you as a reader are looking to get out of a review? Are you simply trying to figure out what’s popular? What quality are you looking to see in a review? Are you looking for something with good art or simply something with a good story? If you’re looking for what’s the new hot thing right now, looking at the number of its reviews are the way to go. If you’re looking for something in particular; if it’s funny, good art, music, story, etc., I highly recommend you take those keywords and use them to find the review you’re looking for. I'm sure this goes without saying, but, because reviews are highly opinionated in nature, you should read more than one of them to use them properly. I generally read around 4-5 reviews before I form my own opinion.

So that’s my two cents. I hope this addresses some of the problems anyone has with the review system here. Also on a side note, if for some reason you do have the urge to comment on my awful English (maybe provide feedback), I would ask that you send me a private message vs. quoting me and pointing out my mistakes on the form, as this is a sensitive issue for me. Thank you so much for taking the time to read my post.

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