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This is sort of just a persons opinion about either specific anime or the genre in general but it I am targeting more or less the light novel/love story type of anime.

When I first started watching anime it was shows like InuYasha, Pokemon, DB/DBZ. So basically I was used to these shows with hundreds of episodes and plenty of story detail.

Lately though I found an interest in the light novel anime, one of the more recent being Toradora and just finished Angel Beats. The recurring theme that seems to happen in most of these animes is what seems like a few scenes or even an entire episode missing with details on why a certain character development is happening.

It may be that they are written this way to leave interpretation to the reader/watcher but I feel like the gap is too big sometimes.

I will give examples to the two most recent ones.

Toradora:

Overall I felt Toradora was a full circle story with lots of character development and details that would be used later but there is one character I feel fell really short with the writing, which was a shame because I feel she impacted a lot of the other characters with their decisions. That character was Ami Kawashima, she started out as a snob living with a facade during her school hours but the other protagonists quickly discovered what she was actually like.

This character had many "Adult" talks with Ryuji Takasu about relationships and friendships with the others and while during each of these talks she always gave the hint that she liked him Ryuji had always been totally oblivious. Now even though her scenes were minimal throughout the entire series she had one of the more interesting character transitions and overall deserved more recognition for her feelings towards Ryuji as they were pushed aside every time.

At the final scene with her and Ryuji in the gym, looking for Taiga's star, she has one last serious conversation with him and mentions her feelings towards him one last time and he hears it but again it is quickly pushed aside by Minorin running in with the box.

After that scene Ami kind of falls out of loop entirely and while the other characters aren't really relative after that either at least they sort of had an ending or closure to their characters while I feel Ami got left out and pushed aside every time for someone who put a lot of effort into being their friends.

Angel Beats:

This show I had seen/read about all over the place so I saw that it was only 13 episodes and ended up watching the entire thing in one sitting.

I have to admit I love how it started, every scene in the first two episodes had me hooked to the story and it only go better from there, at least until the end.

The overall story of this anime was great, I loved it, but a lot of the characters actions seemed very sudden. The first and only time it really bugged me was at the end when Yuzuru Otonashi confessed his love to Angel. I get that he sort of helped her transition into the group and into the more positive person she was at the end but there was almost zero notice of a relationship happening between all the other scenes coming into play. Most of the anime covered Yuzuru helping the others come to peace with their lives but he did the same for Angel and she got even less screen time than some of the others.

Even though that one scene felt very rushed and out of the blue the anime overall was very appealing and I would watch it again in no time. It is very possible the writers meant to keep it this short and minimal but I felt even a couple of private conversations between the two characters could have gone a long way.

Anyway these are just my thoughts, maybe some of you would agree, and maybe you won't.

Are there any animes you feel were short on detail/character development?

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The more time constraint an anime is, the more opportunity it has to be a big success. Again uniqueness and existence will be my "argument."

Say an anime movie, it only has and hour and something to be entirely unique for everything that has existed in that time frame. If it fits my fancy it will be very very good.

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AnimeKami wrote:

The more time constraint an anime is, the more opportunity it has to be a big success. Again uniqueness and existence will be my "argument."

Say an anime movie, it only has and hour and something to be entirely unique for everything that has existed in that time frame. If it fits my fancy it will be very very good.



I agree with you on that front, where a time constraint allows you to plan out how exactly you will tell the story but I also feel it can leave some details left out.

At least with anime movies I always feel like they do a pretty good job at creating an enjoyable experience. I think for me it is mostly the short animes that have this tiny fraction of the story left out that would have led me to care more about that character or understand why they make certain decisions.
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I think its more of a general trend in all media that rather than have everything full explained a certain level of mystery and guess work is left upto the audience. Now, I would say that in some genres this works very well. Just look at EVA for example, thats almost 90% figuring out what you think is actually going on and due to the setting and themes works incredibly well (whether you like it or not you cant argue its a bad series). Where as in toradora the unexplained 'wtf are you doing woman' part with taiga is completely unnecessary and adds confusion and a sense of unfulfilled rather than mystery
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I didn't think Angel Beats were made based on time constraint at all, I felt that there were one or two unnecessary episodes, I can't remember which ones since I watched this a long time ago. But I remembered they were there, and I wondered why they put those episodes in when they could have used that time slot to focus on character development.

My point is, it's not really about the number of episodes, it's how the directors and writers approach the anime. Some anime just give you the feeling of great character development and some anime just have one-dimensional characters.

A recent example I could think of is "Uta no prince sama", that anime has 13 episodes and a second season, but I feel like the characters remain one-dimensional throughout, they don't develop at all.

But when I watch the anime, "BTOOOM" which has 12 episodes, you can tell the difference straight away. There is extensive character development in that anime and no unnecessary scenes.

So I think it all boils down to writing.
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GayAsianBoy wrote:

I didn't think Angel Beats were made based on time constraint at all, I felt that there were one or two unnecessary episodes, I can't remember which ones since I watched this a long time ago. But I remembered they were there, and I wondered why they put those episodes in when they could have used that time slot to focus on character development.

My point is, it's not really about the number of episodes, it's how the directors and writers approach the anime. Some anime just give you the feeling of great character development and some anime just have one-dimensional characters.

A recent example I could think of is "Uta no prince sama", that anime has 13 episodes and a second season, but I feel like the characters remain one-dimensional throughout, they don't develop at all.

But when I watch the anime, "BTOOOM" which has 12 episodes, you can tell the difference straight away. There is extensive character development in that anime and no unnecessary scenes.

So I think it all boils down to writing.



Oh I agree with you that it all comes down to writing, but we can all agree there is no other type of writing style quite like an anime/manga.

I think my main gripe about the whole thing is kind of like you said where they had what you could call "filler" episodes where they could have had meaningful character development episodes, especially when you only have those 13 to tell the entire story.

As for the light novels to anime transition I can understand where some of the writing gets lost along the way, I have read through the novel for Toradora and found a lot more detail about the characters including Ami but in the anime it was like "Nope, she just helps them and leaves for the rest of the episode".

I knew he was going to end up with Taiga but I actually wanted him to end up with Ami.
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