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I'm still waiting for an air date for Pupa. I'm most excited for this one
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mipegg wrote: As for blaming aniplex, there are plenty of aniplex shows up here for UK/EU and specifically last season had quite alot. It seems unlikely they've suddenly decided that they'll stop all together, ...

First, this shouldn't be about "blaming" anyone ~ its about looking at what's happening and seeing what patterns show up.

Second, why in the world would it be unlikely? For something that is a relatively small cash flow, its far more likely that they change their streaming region request at one time. Especially if there's a strategic direction coming down from their owners, Aniplex of Japan, that Aniplex of America is not going to be in Europe anymore.

Its been normal for these licensors to do an experiment with broader region rights with a series or two first, before adopting a new policy, but if they are dropping a region from their standard request, there's no particular reason why they would not do that all at once. If they changed the regions in their standard request, the only time the dropped region would show up would be a contract for a sequel where the old contract was just rolled over into the new one.


... and given that we've heard nothing about any other UK streaming (AoD is dead) Im putting it down to CR

But streaming is a sideshow for the Japanese licensors. The large majority of revenues is still from home video distribution. So its perfectly possible that there's something happening with home video distribution ~ perhaps some reaction to Kaze getting out of the UK market ~ that is affecting UK streaming rights.



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Sebbyxc wrote:

I'm still waiting for an air date for Pupa. I'm most excited for this one


Yup, same. that one looks and sounds pretty good
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Is Crunchroll slow to put the time up for the simulcasts? Because I don't see it yet
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http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/09/28-1/crunchyroll-to-stream-walkure-romanze-galilei-donna-and-meganebu-anime


Crunchyroll just threw down the gauntlet at Anime Weekend Atlanta with a quartet of new streaming anime announcements for fall 2013: Walkure Romanze, Galilei Donna, and MEGANEBU! along with season two of Bottom Biting Bug!



Walkure Romanze is set to broadcast every Sunday starting on October 6, 2013 at 9:30 am Pacific Time for its premium members, with free members able to watch one week later. More information can be found on www.crunchyroll.com/walkure



Walkure Romanze will be available to Crunchyroll’s members worldwide except for Asia.



Galilei Donna is set to broadcast every Thursday starting on October 10, at 11:00a.m. Pacific Time for its premium members, with free members able to watch one week later. More information can be found on www.crunchyroll.com/galileidonna.



Galilei Donnawill be available to Crunchyroll’s audience in the following territories: U.S.A, Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Central and South America including Caribbean, Europe (including Scandinavia and French-speaking and German-speaking territories).



MEGANEBU! is set to broadcast every Sunday starting on October 6, 2013 at 9:00am Pacific Time for its premium members, with free members able to watch one week later. More information can be found on www.crunchyroll.com/meganebu.



MEGANEBU! will be available to Crunchyroll’s audience in North America.



Bottom Biting Bug 2 is set to broadcast every Monday starting on September 30, 2013 at 3:00pm Pacific Time. More information can be found on www.crunchyroll.com/bbb.



Bottom Biting Bug 2 will be available to in the following territories: U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Latin America (Central and South America including Caribbean), Austria, Germany, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Belgium, Italy, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, France, French DOM-TOM, Andorra, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco.
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With these announcements, the lineup page is temporarily filled. I expect more boxes will be added soon.

The next announcements date is listed as secret/unknown, maybe the other ones are probably announced closer with their airing dates.

I wonder which series Funimation and Viz is going to simulcast this season. I guess Funi will at least get Freezing Vibration.

Edit: CR add 4 more boxes at the lineup page.
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mipegg wrote: As for blaming aniplex, there are plenty of aniplex shows up here for UK/EU and specifically last season had quite alot. It seems unlikely they've suddenly decided that they'll stop all together, ...

First, this shouldn't be about "blaming" anyone ~ its about looking at what's happening and seeing what patterns show up.

Second, why in the world would it be unlikely? For something that is a relatively small cash flow, its far more likely that they change their streaming region request at one time. Especially if there's a strategic direction coming down from their owners, Aniplex of Japan, that Aniplex of America is not going to be in Europe anymore.

Its been normal for these licensors to do an experiment with broader region rights with a series or two first, before adopting a new policy, but if they are dropping a region from their standard request, there's no particular reason why they would not do that all at once. If they changed the regions in their standard request, the only time the dropped region would show up would be a contract for a sequel where the old contract was just rolled over into the new one.


... and given that we've heard nothing about any other UK streaming (AoD is dead) Im putting it down to CR

But streaming is a sideshow for the Japanese licensors. The large majority of revenues is still from home video distribution. So its perfectly possible that there's something happening with home video distribution ~ perhaps some reaction to Kaze getting out of the UK market ~ that is affecting UK streaming rights.



I would say there's only two realistic reasons:
(a) Anime on Demand isn't dead, and Kaze.fr have secured the UK rights along with the French ones
(b) Viz Europe had some success or interest in a non-English Magi dub for European TV, and is interested in European rights for all the deals Kaze.fr signed.

Granted, UK streaming rights are chicken-feed in comparison, and UK sales won't be huge. However, when you consider that Aniplex & Manga is releasing dubbed SAO in December (over a period of a few months) for a series total of £80-£90 (~$120) with pretty much zero advertising budget, and all the advertising coming through the fact it streamed on Crunchyroll UK, UK streaming definitely is beneficial for Aniplex.

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icecreamsnow wrote: I would say there's only two realistic reasons:
(a) Anime on Demand isn't dead, and Kaze.fr have secured the UK rights along with the French ones

With Kaze doing a new joint site in France with Kana Media, which previously was using Crunchyroll's infrastructure for streaming in France, they could well be working on establishing an "Anime Digital Network UK" to go along with the "Anime Digital Network France".


(b) Viz Europe had some success or interest in a non-English Magi dub for European TV, and is interested in European rights for all the deals Kaze.fr signed.

Except Kill la Kill is only blocked on Daisuki for UK/Ireland & France/Francaphone-EU. So any rights outside of UK and France would have to be non-exclusive streaming rights.

If its something else, it seems likely to be something we haven't got wind of yet, and for that, there's no telling until more information comes out. So "realistically" it could be something else, its just not telling what.


Granted, UK streaming rights are chicken-feed in comparison, and UK sales won't be huge. However, when you consider that Aniplex & Manga is releasing dubbed SAO in December (over a period of a few months) for a series total of £80-£90 (~$120) with pretty much zero advertising budget, and all the advertising coming through the fact it streamed on Crunchyroll UK, UK streaming definitely is beneficial for Aniplex.

But on the other hand there's no clear indication of MangaUK wanting to work directly with Crunchyroll, and if MangaUK was working on something else, Aniplex of America would obviously defer to MangaUK's strategy.
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Sebbyxc wrote:

I'm still waiting for an air date for Pupa. I'm most excited for this one


Frustrating, isn't it. Pupa's the only show left in the dark right now.
Well at least, it's in October and not November. Looking forward to this one.
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Ah great, the two series I was pumped to watch this season aren't being streamed in the UK. Oh well, back to torrents.
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Update to Initial Post:
Last updated: Sunday, September 29th, 2013 @ 12:24PM EDT
Added episode count to BlazBlue Alter Memory and Freezing Vibration
Added Bottom Biting Bug 2, Galilei Donna, Meganebu and Walkure Romanze to Crunchyroll Simulcasts


My for-sure list for Fall has jumped to 6 now.
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melina_putri wrote:
I wonder which series Funimation and Viz is going to simulcast this season. I guess Funi will at least get Freezing Vibration.

There is always the chance that Viz won't have a new simulcast this season. I recall they skipped at least one or two seasons this year, and I thought perhaps they had given up simulcasts, but then they came back with Blood Lad for the summer.




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Frustrating, isn't it. Pupa's the only show left in the dark right now.
Well at least, it's in October and not November. Looking forward to this one.

A fall anime still missing a premiere date does seem a bit troubling.

There is also the fact that this apparently premieres on Nico Nico, and for the past several seasons, that has meant no simulcast until they premiere on TV (which has usually been the following season).

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agila61 wrote:
But on the other hand there's no clear indication of MangaUK wanting to work directly with Crunchyroll, and if MangaUK was working on something else, Aniplex of America would obviously defer to MangaUK's strategy.


MangaUK tend to be a publisher/distributor of physical discs for US dubbed releases, occasionally the odd sub-only title. Unless it's a smash-hit (or if the US licensor insists) the UK release tends to lag the US release heavily (often by 9-12 months). There was a British dub of Arietty, but aside from that it's repackaging US dubs. So anything Crunchyroll does benefits Aniplex/Sentai etc and MangaUK are further down the food chain.

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Other than Kaze, no UK distributor has anything to do with simulcasts. They get the licenses far too late for that.
And I doubt either MangaUK or MVM would get involved - the former really really hates sub-only series (and actually talked only recently about the fact that the only company that provides online viewing services that their US parent company will let them directly cooperate with as being Netflix - and even that only for really old stuff), the latter almost never releases things which they can't share the disc authoring cost with an Australian company - and I don't think their the sort of company that would get involved in that sort of thing either.
The other two UK anime distributors are either mainly (Anime Limited) or entirely (StudioCanal) focused on films, so would expend the effort to get new stuff visible by putting it in cinemas rather than by running streaming sites.
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icecreamsnow wrote:


agila61 wrote:
But on the other hand there's no clear indication of MangaUK wanting to work directly with Crunchyroll, and if MangaUK was working on something else, Aniplex of America would obviously defer to MangaUK's strategy.


MangaUK tend to be a publisher/distributor of physical discs for US dubbed releases, occasionally the odd sub-only title. Unless it's a smash-hit (or if the US licensor insists) the UK release tends to lag the US release heavily (often by 9-12 months). There was a British dub of Arietty, but aside from that it's repackaging US dubs. So anything Crunchyroll does benefits Aniplex/Sentai etc and MangaUK are further down the food chain.

If MangaUK got into a streaming deal with somebody, similar to Viz Media's Kaze doing a deal with Kana Media, MangaUK's side would indeed seem likely to focus on the catalog.

But it would still disrupt the UK streaming market, and it only takes a home video distributor indicating that they might want exclusive streaming rights to a series to take the rights off the table for Crunchyroll.

I'm not saying that what is going on is evidence that that in particular is going on, just pointing out that when a market is in flux, we shouldn't be overly confident that past behavior predicts future behavior.


kuuderes_shadow wrote: Other than Kaze, no UK distributor has anything to do with simulcasts. They get the licenses far too late for that.

But it doesn't take a simulcast license with one company to block a simulcast license. Depending on the international licensor in Japan, an early expression of interest from a home video distributor can easily be enough to block a simulcast license.


kuuderes_shadow wrote: And I doubt either MangaUK or MVM would get involved ... the latter almost never releases things which they can't share the disc authoring cost with an Australian company.

That make it sound more likely that its an expression of interest from MVM, since Madman has already announced the acquisition and simulcast of one of the series in question.
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