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For example...Naruto Manga....The only reason they literally brought back Kakashi after he died was because of the uproar it caused and how much of a no go it was....So due to popularity he was brought back.

What do you think of how much popularity controls so much of our great manga

















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Obito is final bad guy

Obito was Kakashi's best friend

Yeah. Popularity is why Kakashi didn't die in the pain ark
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I used to like the Naruto storyline, it used to be hardcore. Innocent people were ruthlessly murdered. Revenge was taken on the perpetrators in the form of ten gallon buckets of blood. Hell, children were outright indoctrinated in the methods of war and made into child soldiers at an elementary school where the training itself often got them killed. Even the hero of the show counted as a violation of Article 50, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV and Article 38(3) of the 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Now it's as cheesy as 1970's batman, the enemies never really die, the good guys never really die, same characters just get reused over and over. The entire leaf village gets nuked, but then everyone's brought back to life no-harm-no-foul... It's a garbage manga and garbage anime which has betrayed its roots and viewership time and again. I hope Masashi Kishimoto gets cancer.
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AshRandom wrote:

I used to like the Naruto storyline, it used to be hardcore. Innocent people were ruthlessly murdered. Revenge was taken on the perpetrators in the form of ten gallon buckets of blood. Hell, children were outright indoctrinated in the methods of war and made into child soldiers at an elementary school where the training itself often got them killed. Even the hero of the show counted as a violation of Article 50, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV and Article 38(3) of the 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Now it's as cheesy as 1970's batman, the enemies never really die, the good guys never really die, same characters just get reused over and over. The entire leaf village gets nuked, but then everyone's brought back to life no-harm-no-foul... It's a garbage manga and garbage anime which has betrayed its roots and viewership time and again. I hope Masashi Kishimoto gets cancer.


haha, Naruto "hardcore"
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Naruto has become utter shit because it is basically fan fiction now. I watch and read it because it was really good in the beginning and I've stuck with it until now but it seems Kishi has ran out of ideas and is writing fan fic of his own manga now.

Bleach is still good but has lost some respect from me after bringing back Rukia's brother.

It's a big problem with shonen.
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FumblesRX78 wrote:


AshRandom wrote:

I used to like the Naruto storyline, it used to be hardcore. Innocent people were ruthlessly murdered. Revenge was taken on the perpetrators in the form of ten gallon buckets of blood. Hell, children were outright indoctrinated in the methods of war and made into child soldiers at an elementary school where the training itself often got them killed. Even the hero of the show counted as a violation of Article 50, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV and Article 38(3) of the 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Now it's as cheesy as 1970's batman, the enemies never really die, the good guys never really die, same characters just get reused over and over. The entire leaf village gets nuked, but then everyone's brought back to life no-harm-no-foul... It's a garbage manga and garbage anime which has betrayed its roots and viewership time and again. I hope Masashi Kishimoto gets cancer.


haha, Naruto "hardcore"


What the fuck is even happening here anymore.
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Posted 9/30/13 , edited 9/30/13
That's basically how it works with every form of media, and yes manga is a form of meadia.
If a series is going to loose viewers, be it a manga, movie, tv show, comic book, anything, because of something that happened in the series of course an editor or publisher or even the writer is going to want to find a way to revise it, because as much as we want to think that popular media is here for our, the viewers, entertainment, in reality it's a business and a business needs to make money.
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YEah in general I have a huge issue with fiction bringing back dead characters. It completely undermines any character development for the other characters.

If a mangaka going to bring them back alive then don't even kill them... and if the fans don't like the ideas then they're not truly fans by not respecting the mangaka's story, ideas, and his (or her) creation. It's ok to be upset but not rage at the author about it his decision (i am guilty of this lol). Bowing to fan demand really lessens the author's (or editor's) credibility, not to mention his originality.

Another problem as far as Jump is concerned is that the editors have a good bit to say about a chapter before it can be posted. The magazine has a pretty tight control over its stories (except maybe Gintama haha) so each story stays true to the "mainstream" ideal.

I read that Attack on Titan was originally pitched to Jump but they wanted Isayama to change some things, and rather than bending to their ideas he went with Bessatsu Shounen instead. Well, we know how that went.
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I believe the only limitations that should be placed on an author by the editors should be plot unrelated racial bigotry. Notice I said plot UNrelated there. Anything else is going to ruin an author's grasp on their story and it no longer becomes their story. It's been mentioned by others here already but bringing characters back to life just for the sake of fans pisses me off. Looking at you DBZ.
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It's kind of 50/50 whether the series flows better depending on fans reactions. I oddly really liked early Dragonball as compared to dragonball z (the comedy martial arts suited my taste better)
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Nope, Masashi had explained way before that Kakashi was going to have a very important role. So that's why he didn't die, No just by fan requests.
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Posted 10/3/13

AshRandom wrote:

I used to like the Naruto storyline, it used to be hardcore. Innocent people were ruthlessly murdered. Revenge was taken on the perpetrators in the form of ten gallon buckets of blood. Hell, children were outright indoctrinated in the methods of war and made into child soldiers at an elementary school where the training itself often got them killed. Even the hero of the show counted as a violation of Article 50, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV and Article 38(3) of the 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Now it's as cheesy as 1970's batman, the enemies never really die, the good guys never really die, same characters just get reused over and over. The entire leaf village gets nuked, but then everyone's brought back to life no-harm-no-foul... It's a garbage manga and garbage anime which has betrayed its roots and viewership time and again. I hope Masashi Kishimoto gets cancer.


Amen!
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I really like some of the Jump series, but I'm a bit wary of that magazine because of how focused on popularity it is. Sometimes their mangaka don't have as much control as they should because they're pressured to do things like making the story longer than they want it (as the most obvious example).
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It is what it is...but it also ruins a story.

For example, Bleach. God, that series should've ended with Aizen's defeat.....though currently
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It is what it is...but it also ruins a story.

For example, Bleach. God, that series should've ended with Aizen's defeat.....though currently


So much of this. I'm reading Bleach & Naruto just because I want to finish what I've started. But damn are they making it hard.
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