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The longer a show is, the more needlessly slow-paced and fillery it tends to be. I watched the first season of Magical Index a while ago, and it was decent, but jeez... so many loooooong shots, so much drawn-out expositing, a few minutes of recap in every episode. They could have condensed that entire plot into about 6 episodes without rushing anything, but somehow they stretched it out to 24.

I think it works better, most of the time, for a show to start out with one roughly 12-episode season, and only continue if the story actually needs to continue and the first season wasn't terrible.
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Honestly, I find most of the comments with "with the exception of (insert series here)". If a series needs to be long, then go right ahead. This may come of as rude, but if every single song on the planet was the same length (i.e Bohemian Rhapsody only 1 minute long), or every book on the planet was the same length (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings etc. only 100 pages long), how utterly silly would that be?

There are short stories that can be wrapped up quickly, and there are long stories that need years to complete (Heck, human history is one long story that has been going on for centuries). So if a series' length is necessary for the story it has to tell, or if it doesn't decline in quality, I see no reason to complain, but then again, people have a tendency to complain about everything.

Also, I find that longer stories can be far more engaging, build stronger appreciation for the characters and have easily more intricate plots. For all those saying "FMA is the exception," imagine if FMA only had 13 episodes like Angel Beats! See the problem with thinking that every anime should have the same length?
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Bleach and Naruto are the biggest offenders of this crap. Bleach really does not have the substance to even be going on at all after Aizen (and, really during that whole Fake Karakura Town Arc fiasco with how THAT crap ended.... ugh...) Add in obnoxiously long and pointless fillers (which includes the Fullbring Arc BS... actual canon that is filler... lolz... oh, was that arc painful...) and you have a recipe for obvious disaster.

Naruto is too long not only because of pointlessly bad fillers, but because Kishimoto seems to have done all the cocaine in Japan off his piles of cash while reading Naruto fanfiction, and the current story is the resulting visions he had while doing so.... <.<'

Overall, though, series that are long CAN be good if all the creators care enough about the series, or just don't start slipping writing wise. As long as things stay consistent, the series can still be good. Look at One Piece for the most perfect example. What is most important is consistency. It is just harder for longer series to find that and keep it going for longer than half the actual length of the series.
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24-26 episodes per season (depending on the broadcast) seems to be the perfect number, in my opinion.

At 10-14, the characters are often glazed over or the ending doesn't leave much fulfillment. It's great for simple plot lines or comedy anime, but it leaves little room for complex characters and stories. Then again, I really enjoyed Encouragement of Climb and Miss Monochrome due to their brevity.

At 50+ per season, the commitment is too much, the anime gets drawn out (since a single plot is usually concluded at the end of the anime season), and character traits get drawn out far too much (leaving most things "told" and not "figured out").

Multiple seasons of an anime are great, mostly due to the fact that an overall plot is usually concluded at the end of a season. And with the seasons split, a manga or novel is likely to have time to get ahead of the anime before it's continued. In these cases, I wouldn't mind if the anime continued until adding more plots would be unreasonable or character traits were starting to reach too much stasis.

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Gintama, on episode 30 and still don't understand what the hype is all about!
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This is where One Piece comes in.
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Yimj18 wrote:

Gintama, on episode 30 and still don't understand what the hype is all about!


Patience

As for whether an anime can have too many episodes, I say no. They can be stretched and fillered beyond reasonable expectation, but each show has a length that will fit it properly, be it 12 or 100+.
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I believe that currently the best anime with 100+ episodes that you could watch right now is Hunter x Hunter (2011) It hooks you right in with it's first few episodes and it has great pacing. Before you know it, you're already caught up with the weekly schedule since it's ongoing right now. and there are NO FILLERS. Really, no fillers.
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Sazae-san
Doremon
Pokemon
Detective Conan
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Gintama
Hunter x Hunter

I don't feel like thinking anymore.
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Sazae-san
Doremon


I honestly worry that the two of these will be on-going until the collapse of animation as a medium.
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I think it comes down to how well they hold themselves up. I do like the 24~ish episode series formula. But for those longer series, I think One Piece has it right. Long arcs, few filler arcs (which are usually short for that matter) and not too terribly much in the way of dragging an episode out just to stretch the arch that much more. Now if they cut down (keep in mind i'm at episode bout 428...) on the recapping, that'd be coo, but not a big deal. Just when marathon-ing, i wanna scream "BUT I JUST WATCHED THIS!!!!", probably be alright if i was watching weekly. :3
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HauAreWe wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:

Sazae-san
Doremon


I honestly worry that the two of these will be on-going until the collapse of animation as a medium.


Those series are WAY too long. And everyone loves complaining about the "other" never ending shounen series being too long.
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I think some anime have too many episodes, but it's not a numerical problem, per se. Personally, I prefer any serious story (particularly those with a strict continuity) that I read/watch to not stray too far from the point, or deviate from the logical progression of things. If I have to ask myself, "why is this happening now," or, "how did it come to this," chances are I'm going to lose interest if it keeps up, especially if I can see no necessary reason for whatever-it-is to be happening. When I watch an anime episode, I expect every second of it to be worth my time; if you're going to draw out a scene for dramatic effect, fine, but it's only going to work so many times within a given situation, and you shouldn't need to draw out the exact same scene more than once. (Yes, Dragonball Z, we know that the planet Namek is on the verge of exploding, even though people seem to have plenty of time to just float around and flap their gums.)

If a series is still going because of its popularity, not because of any initial intent on the creator's part, I tend to stay away from those if I haven't begun to watch them yet. All too often the quality of the work degrades from that point, whether or not the series in question was good or bad to begin with. Some of the common reasons for the degradation, at that point, often stem from issues beyond the series itself, like having a quota of episodes to make but not enough story to fill them with (such as when the anime catches up with a story that is itself still a work in progress). Basically, I don't like milking cash cows, because there's a good chance that they will lose a great deal of substance and dignity by the time they're milked dry.

Most of the anime that I like doesn't come close to reaching a hundred episodes. Of the few that actually exceed that number, the only one I (personally) find worthy of note is Galaxy Angel. Of course, Galaxy Angel isn't the typical type of anime to have that many episodes...
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Posted 12/9/13
I agree, Attack on Titan would have been a better 12 episode series.
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Posted 12/9/13 , edited 12/9/13

pirththee wrote:

I agree, Attack on Titan would have been a better 12 episode series.


It would have been better if it was an hour and half long movie than ends with the part early on with Eren being eaten and Part 2 coming out a month later in theatres.
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