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xxJing wrote:

I think people should not try to compare an anime to it's manga version, unless the anime itself is really bad. If the anime is one of those shows that makes the watcher want to read the manga to find out what happens next, then it is successful as an anime. If the anime is entertaining despite being different from the manga, then it is successful as an anime. The only time it is not successful as an anime is when it actually deters someone from wanting to know how the story continues.


The only thing about this part that I want to comment on, what about those of use who read the source material long before there is an Anime? Yeah for quite a few shows/series that are already out, you end up watching the Anime before thinking about the Manga, especially in the West. But to say that we shouldn't compare an Anime to it's source material is a bit... silly. You do the same things when any book is turned into a movie, example: Harry Potter, Eragon, Game of Thrones, plenty more to go from but the point is there.

While most people in the West won't see an Anime's source material before it is turned into an Anime, then yeah your argument stands. But there are plenty of people who do read it before it is turned into an Anime. Like Nisekoi, I was reading that long before they announced an Anime for it. So by your argument I shouldn't compare it's Anime to it's Manga, even though that is what it is adapting.

Now I am not saying you are wrong. Because if you watch an Anime that is already done and it makes you want to read the Manga, that is good. But saying that despite being an Anime being different from its source material but still being good is alright... that is where I also differ from you, but only slightly in the sense, IF I read the source material BEFORE it was adapted. I will complain, I like my shows to be as close to the source material as possible. But if I haven't read the source material, then i'm fine with it, Magi is a good example there.

The last point of yours is another eh... point for me. I didn't think Rosario + Vampire was that great, hell the Anime was only about "PLOT" anyway. But I still wanted to know what was different about it cause everyone said the Manga was better. So I went for the Manga, and completely agree it is better.


The reason I say to try not to compare the anime to the manga or source material is because of personal experience. I have noticed many times I can watch an anime first and tend to really like it. Then after, I read the manga. However, after reading the manga I tend to start nitpicking the anime. However, is that really the right thing to do? I mean I really enjoyed the anime as it was when I was ignorant toward what happened in the manga, it was only knowledge of the manga that made me prejudice toward the anime.

A good example is Nisekoi. There are many people who really enjoy the Nisekoi anime who have not read the manga. On the other hand, having read the manga pretty closely before the anime came out, I felt that there was something off with the anime. It makes me wonder, had I not read the manga, would I be able to enjoy the anime more for what it was?

That is why I say to at least make an effort to not compare the anime to the manga, unless the anime is bad on its own grounds. Because the anime could be really good, and you may have thought it was really good without knowing the manga.
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I'm gonna say Elfen Lied. The manga was pretty good, with a complex story, grey morality, and several interesting and complex characters. The anime removed every scene that didn't include blood or tits, entirely cut most of the characters (including the one who named the damn series), screwed the portrayal of everybody they kept, and chopped the story all to hell even before they replaced the ending wholesale. Now you can't even mention the title without people connecting it to idiotic torture porn.

Also agreeing with Rosario x Vampire. The beginning of the manga had its share of monster-of-the-week and pointless harem antics, but then it developed into a real story, and a good one. The anime started with a faithful adaptation of the beginning, dialed up the fanservice, and then just sort of ran with the harem fanservice bullshit instead of trying to handle the actual plot.


There seems to be a common theme here of manga that happen to have some sexual content, producers who can't see anything else, and anime which drop everything but fanservice as a result. The question in my mind is: are the people in charge of these adaptations out of touch perverts who don't have any idea what attracted people to the series in the first place? Or is the pointless bouncing tits actually selling well enough to make adaptations like that a sound financial decision, and we should just give up and look elsewhere if we want intelligent entertainment instead of softcore porn?


Other ruined adaptations...
Claymore was good for most of its run, faithfully adapting the manga and doing very well with their action scenes and such iirc, but then the ending was just borked. That's understandable to me though, because when you run out of manga to adapt you pretty much have to either cut it off without any explanation (leaving everything hanging for years at least, and possibly never getting another season), add filler to stall (the ruin of virtually every major shounen), or write your own ending. And while sometimes that new ending could work (Fullmetal Alchemist might not have been as great as Brotherhood, but it was pretty great), much more often it ruins things.
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xxJingThe reason I say to try not to compare the anime to the manga or source material is because of personal experience. I have noticed many times I can watch an anime first and tend to really like it. Then after, I read the manga. However, after reading the manga I tend to start nitpicking the anime. However, is that really the right thing to do? I mean I really enjoyed the anime as it was when I was ignorant toward what happened in the manga, it was only knowledge of the manga that made me prejudice toward the anime.

A good example is Nisekoi. There are many people who really enjoy the Nisekoi anime who have not read the manga. On the other hand, having read the manga pretty closely before the anime came out, I felt that there was something off with the anime. It makes me wonder, had I not read the manga, would I be able to enjoy the anime more for what it was?

That is why I say to at least make an effort to not compare the anime to the manga, unless the anime is bad on its own grounds. Because the anime could be really good, and you may have thought it was really good without knowing the manga.


I hear you there. Sometimes you can't enjoy a series that's good because you're expecting it to be magnificent. Or there are two versions of a thing, like FMA, and if you watch the slightly better one first then the other will always be a disappointment but if you watch in the other order then you enjoy them both fully. And sometimes (when I have sufficient time and interest to actually go through them both) having seen the decent animated version will actually enhance my enjoyment of a superior manga, because I have the visual references for things in my head (let's face it, manga is not the best medium for conveying action sequences, and a lot of the best writers are not also the best artists).

Or sometimes there's an anime series you love, like Baccano! or Durarara!!, and even though they're incomplete they lead you to dive into the light novels to get the rest of the story when you would never have found them otherwise.

Other times, like with Rosario x Vampire, Negima, Pupa, etc. I tried to watch the anime first because I liked the concept but then I just couldn't continue because of the shitty execution. In that case, threads like this and people complaining about the adaptation are very helpful because they let you know that the series isn't shit, just the animated version of it.
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I don't get the Magi adaptation hate. It was pretty much page for page the exact same thing. The only actual change I noticed was in the first dungeon in the first few episodes they changed an arrow trap to a flame pillar trap to match the theme of the dungeon and the djinn in it. Other than that I think it is a great adaptation.

Anime that I think were bad adaptations were Rosario+Vampire and Negima. I still thoroughly enjoyed them but they were not what the originals were which were amazing.
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Pupa. The manga was creepy and a bit nasty, but it was still great. In the anime, they made the monster pink. How am I supposed to get scared of that? Oh, and the ever so subtle censorship. Plus, they decided to make each episode 5 minutes long and then rushed by a lot of parts. The manga is a lot more enjoyable.
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Kimi no irumachi(the town where you live). That thing was a disaster. Dropped it faster than any show I can remember.
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Kodocha. I always thought that anime was a bit weird. I preferred the manga hands down.
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Suzuka
Loved the manga, but the anime was terrible.

Initially watching the anime it definitely felt lacking in a solid resolution. Once I read the manga I was able to understand it better
and get the satisfaction of finishing it, though to be fair there's no way they could've made it all the way to their marriage with the
anime episode constraints.

On the brightside, watching the anime first made the manga that much better.
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*Walks in and looks around*

So, um....Hellsing Ultimate, right? Or Trinity Blood....
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Rosario + Vampire

Kimi no iru machi

And i don't get why you guys hate Magi adaptation....
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Posted 3/8/14
Definitely Mahou Sensei Negima
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I really didn't think Magi was that bad. At the least it made me want to read the manga, I'm always in need for more comedy shounen to add to my list.

idk, i don't usually watch the anime if I'm already reading the manga. I've always been more of a reader than a watcher anyway.\

that being said, a remake of the Claymore anime would be really nice. I've lost interest in the manga but I feel like a decent adaptation would reel me back in; it was a good read for a long time.
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Kimi no irumachi(the town where you live). That thing was a disaster. Dropped it faster than any show I can remember.


Lol I never even started it once i found out they were starting from the Tokyo Arc hahaha.

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Definitely Mahou Sensei Negima


That manga Deserves a true adaptation that it will never get. Much sadness. Ima laugh if they try to Adapt UQ holder.
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Ahahahahha

The Groove Adventures of Rave
I found it after reading half of the manga, I found it and tried to pick off from where I was but the animation was so cheaply done, the character designs so off model, I couldn't bring myself to watch it. It was like those derp screenshots you see so often now, except all the time.
I don't know what the circumstances were, maybe I just happened to pick up an episode where the quality was inexplicably worse than usual, but I thought Rave was a big enough of a hit to deserve more than that.
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