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Post Reply Monogatari Series Second Season Discussion - Daisuki watchers
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Daisuki has the first 5 episodes of Bake and Nise up now. Bake seems 480p like here. Nise has HD... sometimes, dynamically switches based upon load/speed.

They are showing Neko Shiro on Thursday in LA at an anime convention. Hopefully it goes up on the site soon after.

Neko Kuro is a prequel to Bakemonogatari, Golden Week and is briefly mentioned in the last few episodes of the Tsubasa Cat arc of Bakemonogatari. It comes after Kizumonogatari (still not animated) but before the start of Bake. Shiro comes AFTER Nisemonogatari so we are chronologically on track once Second Season starts... well, to begin with anyways

Belt in and hold on tight is all I can say!
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I'm so glad CR got this, even if it is delayed a month. I'm going to try waiting but I don't know if I've got the willpower!

Daisuke couldn't even keep Bakemonogatari at 480p for me and the sound quality was all over the place, haven't tried Nisemonogatari
on it yet but it looks like I'm going to be disappointed.

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Yeah, at least with Crunchyroll getting it we know we'll be able to watch it properly... eventually. I too have been disappointed in Daisuji's Bake and Nise quality. What bummage!

Might just wait and buy the import Blurays blind! I did that with Nekomonogatari (Kuro) and love it! Nisioisin, VOFAN, Shaft and Aniplex so you can't go wrong...
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someone made the joke but I'll make it again:

wow.
just wow. 1 month wait for CR to air season 2.

talk about getting the...SHAFT

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I'm not sure I have the strength to wait for CR to stream this...
But on the other hand, I can't stand Daisuki's video player!!

What to do >.>
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And as I'd feared, the have started putting up Nekomonogatari Black but... only one episode! LOL or woohoo?
https://www.daisuki.net/movies/seriesdetail/n
Will they put up the other 3 before Nekomonogarati White starts tomorrow? I will be shocked if they do. Way to go Daisuki, put up one third of Bakemonogatari, almost half of Nisemonogatari and one quarter of Nekomongatari (Kuro) before Second Season starts... they just don't get it!

Perfect Slumbers is a wonderful OP however. And this is a great series so everyone should definitely watch it... even if it takes a month for Daisuki to put it up... first time with official subs anyway, even though I'm finding them questionable in a few spots (first time I've seen it with subs).
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Hitagi with short hair, sad face is sad. Looked alot better with long
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hpulley wrote:

And as I'd feared, the have started putting up Nekomonogatari Black but... only one episode! LOL or woohoo?
https://www.daisuki.net/movies/seriesdetail/n
Will they put up the other 3 before Nekomonogarati White starts tomorrow? I will be shocked if they do. Way to go Daisuki, put up one third of Bakemonogatari, almost half of Nisemonogatari and one quarter of Nekomongatari (Kuro) before Second Season starts... they just don't get it!

I won't be surprised if they stick to their "about one episode per week" update schedule.

While it won't affect me too much since I've gotten in the habit of waiting and marathoning series (meaning I'll have no problem waiting on Black to complete, since I won't be starting Monogatari Second for quite some time), it sucks for anyone that enjoys watching each episode as they come out but avoids illegal sources.

Then they compound the problem for the people in areas outside the U.S. and Canada, that had no legal access to Bakemonogatari until Daisuki. If they don't update those episodes faster than their previous pace, people could be looking at about 7 weeks before they could begin to watch Monogatari Second in the proper order (or 10 weeks, if Daisuki gets the 3 eisodes that CR did not).


On the bright side, at least anyone in the U.S. and Canada that has the ability to watch Bakemonogatari now, but wants to wait on CR for Monogatari Second will likely be able to catch all of Black at Daisuki before it premieres here. Of course, there is always a chance that by that time, we'll find one of catalog title slots on CR's lineup page is Nekomonogatari Black.
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I won't be surprised if they stick to their "about one episode per week" update schedule.

While it won't affect me too much since I've gotten in the habit of waiting and marathoning series (meaning I'll have no problem waiting on Black to complete, since I won't be starting Monogatari Second for quite some time), it sucks for anyone that enjoys watching each episode as they come out but avoids illegal sources.

Then they compound the problem for the people in areas outside the U.S. and Canada, that had no legal access to Bakemonogatari until Daisuki. If they don't update those episodes faster than their previous pace, people could be looking at about 7 weeks before they could begin to watch Monogatari Second in the proper order (or 10 weeks, if Daisuki gets the 3 eisodes that CR did not).

On the bright side, at least anyone in the U.S. and Canada that has the ability to watch Bakemonogatari now, but wants to wait on CR for Monogatari Second will likely be able to catch all of Black at Daisuki before it premieres here. Of course, there is always a chance that by that time, we'll find one of catalog title slots on CR's lineup page is Nekomonogatari Black.

Agreed, it seems they are sticking to their stupid one a week. Which Crunchyroll often does but I'm sure that is under contract while I had hoped that Daisuki, being closer to the Japanese companies, could give us better on Catalog title access times.

I am confident they will show Bakemonogatari 13-15 at least but as you say #15 won't come out for 10 weeks at this rate. I guess they want people to look for illegal sources or something. They must know how much people like to wait for stuff in this newfangled internet age...

Why am I complaining anyways when I have all the discs for this one? Because I don't have all the discs for everything and I don't want this to happen for something I want to watch. Just a poor indication of how they will be working the site in future.
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hpulley wrote:
Agreed, it seems they are sticking to their stupid one a week. Which Crunchyroll often does but I'm sure that is under contract while I had hoped that Daisuki, being closer to the Japanese companies, could give us better on Catalog title access times.

I am confident they will show Bakemonogatari 13-15 at least but as you say #15 won't come out for 10 weeks at this rate. I guess they want people to look for illegal sources or something. They must know how much people like to wait for stuff in this newfangled internet age...

Why am I complaining anyways when I have all the discs for this one? Because I don't have all the discs for everything and I don't want this to happen for something I want to watch. Just a poor indication of how they will be working the site in future.

Their "about one per week" update cycle simply can't last. As I pointed out (perhaps in another topic), that would mean it would take them over 12 years with One Piece to reach the episode Funimation streamed recently.

It is bad enough with Gundam Seed HD Remastered, where they are only up to episode 10, but after finishing the first 5 on Daisuki weeks ago, I was able to pop over to the GundamInfo channel on YouTube and finish the entire series right away. It almost seems they are stuck in a broadcast TV mentality.

Frankly, I don't have a lot of confidence that Monogatari Second will be posted on schedule each Saturday, either, but given that none of their episode posts thus far have even had a schedule to fail or keep, it is difficult to judge. I'm primarily going by what we experienced with NicoNico.com.

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TheAncientOne wrote:
...Frankly, I don't have a lot of confidence that Monogatari Second will be posted on schedule each Saturday, either, but given that none of their episode posts thus far have even had a schedule to fail or keep, it is difficult to judge. I'm primarily going by what we experienced with NicoNico.com.

Agreed. I will believe their simulcast times when I see them consistently delivered week after week. I panic when Crunchyroll doesn't have Servant x Service placeholders up already but with Funimation I know I will just need to check and see if, a) the website is up at all; and b) if they have bothered to put any version of the video up yet, let alone the Elite version... I will need to learn new expecations for Daisuki.
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So have Crunchyroll not gotten Nekomonogatari:Kuro? Or is everyone still anticipating the announcement today or Monday?

I thought it was the only sensible thing to do to put up the 4 episodes weekly to make up for the month-long wait on Monogatari 2nd Season.
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So have Crunchyroll not gotten Nekomonogatari:Kuro? Or is everyone still anticipating the announcement today or Monday?

I thought it was the only sensible thing to do to put up the 4 episodes weekly to make up for the month-long wait on Monogatari 2nd Season.
Not yet but would be nice! There are still 4 catalog boxes empty. I was 110% sure one of the two empty boxes for spring was Neko Kuro but... alas... it was not.
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I was 110% sure one of the two empty boxes for spring was Neko Kuro but... alas... it was not.

Perhaps they were, but they just got delayed into the summer season.

I would like to think if CR got Nekomonogatari Black that they would post all 4 episodes at once (at least for premium subscribers), but there are past precedents of Aniplex doling out a catalog title one episode per week to CR (e.g., Stardriver, Madoka Magica).

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All of this talk about Nekomonogatari Kuro is making me excited

It would be pretty great if CR was able to get it and air it before Monogatari Season 2 started in August
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