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Posted 9/11/13 , edited 9/11/13
The problem I have with this show is much simpler -- she is a lame character.

She is stupid, lazy, selfish and delusional... thus everything fails because everything she does is done half-baked. I have never met anybody with so few redeeming qualities, and if I ever did I would stay as far from them as I could.

The contrast with her brother and mother is startling. There is nothing about her that could not be overcome with the slightest bit of genuine and consistent effort. Being able to talk to people is not a requirement for being a good or successful human being (even if society pretends it is)... if she started by just improving herself, and forgetting all the half-baked quick fixes, she would find her situation naturally improving over time.
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jason_maranto wrote:

The problem I have with this show is much simpler -- she is a lame character.

She is stupid, lazy, selfish and delusional... thus everything fails because everything she does is done half-baked. I have never met anybody with so few redeeming qualities, and if I ever did I would stay as far from them as I could.

The contrast with her brother and mother is startling. There is nothing about her that could not be overcome with the slightest bit of genuine and consistent effort. Being able to talk to people is not a requirement for being a good or successful human being (even if society pretends it is)... if she started by just improving herself, and forgetting all the half-baked quick fixes, she would find her situation naturally improving over time.




but the point of the show is that she is delusional and cant improve herself in her mind so she uses this radiculas quick fixes..


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Sure, but that has nothing at all to do with social anxiety. The social anxiety is just an excuse -- if people actually got to know her they would like her even less. In this way she is better off saying nothing, because at least people assume she might be a decent human being.

A simple example of improving herself would be not being a lazy slug at home -- a simple thing that can make a big difference in how those closest to her treat and view her.
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Sure, but that has nothing at all to do with social anxiety. The social anxiety is just an excuse -- if people actually got to know her they would like her even less. In this way she is better off saying nothing, because at least people assume she might be a decent human being.

A simple example of improving herself would be not being a lazy slug at home -- a simple thing that can make a big difference in how those closest to her treat and view her.


It is clear that you do not understand what social anxiety is and what it is like to have it. Social anxiety is a deep fear of being ridiculed or judged perpetrated by low self esteem. In short, Tomoko finds it difficult to connect with her peers because she's afraid of being mocked.

Having Social Anxiety is NOT AN EXCUSE. It is an obstacle that needs to be overcome by people like me who have it. People like me are just naturally bad at small talk, therefore we find it hard at first to connect with others.

Also, do you know the difference between an extrovert and an introvert? An extrovert finds stimulation within social situations while the common introvert finds it in solitude. I'm an introvert and I find solace within privacy. Being in public settings drain me physically. Tomoko is clearly an introvert as she spends most of her time in her room.

If you want to know more about introversion and extroversion, I suggest you youtube Susan Cain: The power of introverts for more information.

In conclusion, Tomoko is not a bad person. She has trouble showing the world who she really is because she's afraid of what they might think of her.
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Sometimes it hurts to see Tomoko being so miserable.... man, could somebody stand up and help her?
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Sesshoumaru-sama wrote:

Sometimes it hurts to see Tomoko being so miserable.... man, could somebody stand up and help her?


It could help in it's own way, but as I have some things in common with Tomoko and that I'm more than twice her age, it's working out exactly like it would in real life. I had difficulties in school in the same ways Tomoko has, but I never considered trying to do crazy things to fit in. This kind of isolation is exactly what I experienced in all of my school years through college and no one including the teachers reached out. Sorry, but sometimes there is no help.
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I am not sure why you think I don't understand -- I am an extremely introverted person. As I said, she is just a bad person... her problems don't stem from her inability to interact with others, they come from the fact she is stupid, lazy, selfish, etc.

I am not good at social interaction, and tend to find it tedious labor most of time... but my worth as a human being is not defined by my ability to engage in small talk. While I am well aware we are dealing with a fictional character, she is one I cannot sympathize with... she deserves everything that she gets -- mostly it is her own doing anyway.

The character in this show who really has it rough is her brother...
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I'll reiterate what I said on a previous thread: Watamote is not Schadenfreude. It is not meant to make fun of "the lonely girl with issues". It is meant to make fun of the "in" crowd. The only reason why you Dummkopfs are viewing it as such is because you value being "popular" and having "a normal social life". Well, screw that crap. If everyone lived the same way, with the same friends, and did the same activities, life would suck. Tomoko is not mentally ill. I hate it when ignorant, incompetent, pretentious, foppish high school b*****s (without degrees in psychology) try to diagnose FICTIONAL CHARACTERS.


See I could buy that if there were many jokes based around the "in" crowd. However the "in" crowd in Watamote isn't the butt of, well...any jokes really and actually come off to me as decent people. Now you could probably say the show makes some fun about the various methods of trying to get in with the "in" crowd, because so far all of Tomoko's attempts of doing so have backfired in big ways.

Either way I personally don't laugh at Tomoko(unless she's making a funny/creepy looking face, like in this most recent episode when she's standing outside the culture club's room), but rather the awkwardness/pathetic desperation of the situations she gets into. So it is the situations I laugh at, not Tomoko(unless, like I said, she makes a face so absurd I can't help but laugh at it).
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Just to get another opinion, but doesn't Tomoko's case seem to be the most extreme example of someone with almost every kind of social problem that exists? I don't really find her funny an almost any way, but it's like watching Nascar I watch WATAMOTE for the inevitable crash that she brings on herself. It's a funny thing about this anime. As Koda89 says, she's trying to fit in with the in-crowd, but she's so far on the outside that a random guy standing on a corner is the in-crowd. Just look at a past episode where she was sizing up the fat guy in the manga club as a potential boyfriend just because he was there.
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For you to even think it's that easy for everybody makes you the delusional one, sir.
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Got some awesome Watamote goods in the post today. Opening and Ending theme CD's. Opening theme CD comes with a DVD with music videos and a making of on it. And also a free gift photo of Konomi Suzuki who sings the song. Ending theme should have come witha poster but that was canceled for some reason.


Ending theme full version is really fun and it comes with an alternative version sung by Yu-Chan and it's a fully positive version. Also as a bonus track it has the special Vocoloid ending.

(MakotoKamui - added a quote tag around the image to make it fit in the thread due to a report, hope you don't mind!)
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^^^ Awesome! I keep wondering if they are going to use the Yuu-chan version. I thought they would use it in 'her' episode about her cake serving job a couple weeks ago but no... for some reason they haven't used it yet.
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Got some awesome Watamote goods in the post today. Opening and Ending theme CD's. Opening theme CD comes with a DVD with music videos and a making of on it. And also a free gift photo of Konomi Suzuki who sings the song. Ending theme should have come witha poster but that was canceled for some reason.


Ending theme full version is really fun and it comes with an alternative version sung by Yu-Chan and it's a fully positive version. Also as a bonus track it has the special Vocoloid ending.


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MrMoondoggie wrote:

Got some awesome Watamote goods in the post today. Opening and Ending theme CD's. Opening theme CD comes with a DVD with music videos and a making of on it. And also a free gift photo of Konomi Suzuki who sings the song. Ending theme should have come witha poster but that was canceled for some reason.



I wonder what the music video of the opening theme is like?
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I wonder what the music video of the opening theme is like?


It's a mix of clips and footage of the actual people who sing the soing with tons of Japanese all over the place. The most surprising thing is that it comes with subs on the video in English . It's becoming common for some companies in Japan to make music videos with English subtitles.

Some screen caps to explain what i mean.





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