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A mod named laureen posted this here rule regarding the number of pics users may share per post on the message boards:

9.2 Avoid Posting Multiple Images
Not everyone has high speed internet, therefore, do put a note before submitting a new thread that is image intensive. It would also be wise to limit the number of pictures per post to 2 and refrain from posting a lot of pictures in one post. This does not mean you can double or triple post right after wards with 2 more images per post. If you must put a lot of images in a post, try linking to the url instead of embedding the image with the IMG tags.
And she seems pretty intent on making sure people follow it, going through and deleting any picture over two that someone posts. Just doing her job, I guess...but, why.

The last i checked, this was primarily a video streaming site. Who, exactly, are you worried about overloading the bandwidth of with a few too many screenshots?

I don't really care--especially since this is happening on the board for Free and I am not a 14-year-old fangirl--but this just struck me as...misplaced.
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It's more than just being worried about bandwidth.
It's about showing respect towards other users when interacting with them on the forum.

Not everyone has fast & uncapped internet, but everyone prefers a smooth internet experience. If you try to limit the amount of bandwidth you use, and keep it under control so that you can watch a few episodes on CR without going over the cap limit - the last thing you want is to be bombarded by images because someone felt compelled to post 30+ images embedded in one post.

I'm sure most people don't mind an image or two being embedded and not placed in a spoiler, but when you get above that amount without showing any thought or care about others experience, there is a line that got crossed.

A page taking forever to load, because there are so many images on a page doesn't help as well.

But here's the thing, nobody is stopping you from linking the images to the users via url.

Like so:

http://i.imgur.com/pYF9MBf.gif

And finally, a small reminder:


This is not an image board.
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And...if you don't mind me throwing it out there...

Only Crunchyroll's main forum is enforced by this rule. Group forums made by users, for instance, may allow you to post more than two images--but that's up to the group's own rules and mods.

If the post absolutely calls for you to post more than two images, such as this post I made a couple of days ago, then it is sometimes acceptable to put these pictures within a spoiler--but really, only if it's absolutely necessary. Even if it is necessary, and even if you do put these extra pictures in spoilers, I'd still say to limit your post to 6-7 stillframe images or 2-3 gifs.

Oh, right, and don't take Lorreen's moderation too strongly or offensively or anything. She's still a fairly new moderator, and like anyone with a new responsibility, they generally want to show that they can take it and do it well, and that's just what she's doing. ...Doing it well.
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AHTL wrote: It's more than just being worried about bandwidth.
It's about showing respect towards other users when interacting with them on the forum.
No, actually, it's about the rule, which quite plainly says, "not everyone has high speed internet." My argument: yes, everyone DOES have high speed internet, if they're on CR.

In any case, it's not a rule, but a guideline; at least the way it's written--but it's being treated like a rule. You want a rule because without it apparently society breaks down and soon we're killing small children because we're not "showing respect towards other users?" Then make it a rule, not a guideline. And, justify it without using an excuse from 1998.


AHTL wrote: Not everyone has fast & uncapped internet, but everyone prefers a smooth internet experience. If you try to limit the amount of bandwidth you use, and keep it under control so that you can watch a few episodes on CR without going over the cap limit - the last thing you want is to be bombarded by images because someone felt compelled to post 30+ images embedded in one post.

I'm sure most people don't mind an image or two being embedded and not placed in a spoiler, but when you get above that amount without showing any thought or care about others experience, there is a line that got crossed.
I guess the folks here are the same ones scream if the catch someone taking eleven items into a ten-or-less checkout lane. They probably give a lecture about "if we let you do that, what's to stop the next person from bringing in thirty?" If you look at the deletion activity I was complaining about, it appeared that literally, someone posted four pictures, and had two of them deleted. Not quite the same as your over-the-top imagined doomsday of someone posting thirty, is it? Presumably someone posting that many could be dealt with in the spirit of the law, rather than the letter. That is to say, I think we can tell when someone's being disruptive.

AHTL wrote: But here's the thing, nobody is stopping you from linking the images to the users via url.
Those tend to disappear over time, making looking back at old posts useless.

AHTL wrote: And finally, a small reminder: This is not an image board.
It's not really a very good message board, either, as I've complained before, which is partly what keeps CR from being a one-stop shop for anime. Capping the posts at two pictures doesn't improve anything; in fact, it just makes this place that much more of a drag.

mwhitco91 wrote:Oh, right, and don't take Lorreen's moderation too strongly or offensively or anything. She's still a fairly new moderator, and like anyone with a new responsibility, they generally want to show that they can take it and do it well, and that's just what she's doing. ...Doing it well.
Yeah, I get that, too. 25+ years on the Internet and I know the pattern. In any case, personally IDGAFF; indeed, I'd be just as happy to not see pic after pic of cartoon teenaged boys' butts bent over into the camera. I just thought this rule was idiotic. "Don't post THREE pictures, because of all the starving children on AOL! Now go enjoy your streaming 1080p."

By the way, I'm following loreeen's advice. After giving me a similar lecture to the ones here, she concluded, like any good functionary: "but I don't make the rules," then pointed me to the Complaints Department here down the hall. Whereto next?

TL/DR VERSION:
If this is really important enough to actually actively enforce, then change the "suggestion" to be an actual rule, and with a proper justification.
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Thank you for your feedback, will take that into advisement.

Have a nice day.
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There is always someone who finds some excuse to whine over the simplest of things... I'm happy with the message board and why in all things sane would you want to post more than 2 pictures in a post? If posting pictures is something your intent on why not use pinterest or tumblr? websites solely made for the exchange of pictures. Crunchyroll is made for people to share in there enjoyment for anime/manga/general stuff. The people who do want to post pictures have (as mwhitco91 pointed out) use groups where they can post pictures to there heart is content. Just wan't to know your thought process before making such a insane post.

Also, crunchyroll is available for view on mobile phones where people have caps on data.
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tcfenstermaker wrote:
No, actually, it's about the rule, which quite plainly says, "not everyone has high speed internet." My argument: yes, everyone DOES have high speed internet, if they're on CR.

You proceed from the assumption everyone only comes to CR to watch videos. There are people that come to CR only to participate in the forum, and many of those don't have very good internet connections (either slow, inconsistent, or capped).

Also, "high speed" is relative. Someone on a 1.5Mbps DSL connection that actually delivers only around 1Mbps at their home could watch 360p and perhaps even 480p video at CR, but that doesn't mean they want anymore delay than necessary when browsing the forums.

As was pointed out, if you really having a dying need to provide more than two pics, link to them. There are plenty of free image hosting services. If people are interested in them, clicking on a link isn't some major effort.

You complained these tend to disappear over time, "making them useless". Despite your long history with the internet, you apparently don't know how to utilize it very well. There are services on which if you create a free account, the images will stay there indefinitely. I have pics on Photobucket that haven't been accessed in years that are still there.

Also, with forum posts, how often is someone going to be accessing a message that is months old?


I guess the folks here are the same ones scream if the catch someone taking eleven items into a ten-or-less checkout lane. They probably give a lecture about "if we let you do that, what's to stop the next person from bringing in thirty?"

I'm guessing you're the type that knowingly takes 11-12 items into that lane when the store in busy, and then complains if someone calls you out on it.
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Posted 7/6/13 , edited 7/6/13

tcfenstermaker wrote:

I guess the folks here are the same ones scream if the catch someone taking eleven items into a ten-or-less checkout lane. They probably give a lecture about "if we let you do that, what's to stop the next person from bringing in thirty?" If you look at the deletion activity I was complaining about, it appeared that literally, someone posted four pictures, and had two of them deleted.

Not true. I deleted images from only two posts in the thread. One started with 9 images, the other with 7. I did not tamper with a number of earlier posts that had more than 2 images--if you go back, I'm sure you'll see several with as many as, (IIRC) 5 images.

See, I really do moderate in moderation.
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The proper response, everyone, is the one that AHTL gave in his second post (even though it's obviously dripping with sarcasm). The rest of this crap isn't necessary to tell ME, since I've posted a total of three goddamn pictures on these crap boards over the last 9 months, in two different threads. I'm a paying member of this site, so I thought I'd weigh in on the asininity of a guideline that assumes that "not everyone has highspeed internet," when this site's raison d'être is video streaming.

Ranting about people's data caps on their cell phones, how this isn't a photo board, and how stupid I must be to want to look at a post from more than 10 minutes ago, has nothing to do with this one and single point I made. And addressing your comments to me personally is equally meaningless because I'm not the one getting pics deleted.

So, please don't hammer another 95 thesis on my door about this crap. Hurray, you guys can argue over petty BS. You win the internets! (I'm especially glad that one of the few regular posters here that's actually OLDER than me can behave worse than a typical bratty higschool NOOB in his arguing.)

Maybe one of you "non-overbearing" "fair" moderators can exercise your authority and lock this stupid thread before another genius decides to tell me how it's all my fault that I actually pay for this crap.
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"And addressing your comments to me personally is equally meaningless because I'm not the one getting pics deleted".

So a person makes a compliant (which implies something is affecting them), but when someone else responds, they declare the response meaningless, citing they aren't affected.

We also seem to have someone that doesn't understand the difference between private communication and a forum.
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