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Posted 7/8/13 , edited 7/8/13

lolitsronald wrote:

King of Thorns was an anime movie... All I know that Kana Hanazawa is in it...
I never watched it yet... So if you watch it, tell me how it is... It's licensed by Funi so I think there may be blurays/dvds out...

I had mixed feelings about it; it was far from bad, but they crammed 8 manga volumes into two hours.

Sunrise was smart with what they cut and kept so that the fundamental story was still present and extraneous stuff wasn't, but it left the rest of the cast feeling a bit stocked: generic scientist guy, generic old guy, generic tough guy, etc.; I liked the story though. Although the monsters were all pretty bad CGI. But I'd be thrilled if it was made into a full cour.

It wouldn't be at the top of my "buy" list, but I didn't regret seeing it.

And if you want more than the movie can give you can always pick up the manga.
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Stewker wrote:

The first two episodes of Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse are very good for horror/gore. After that it turns into an entirely different show, a comedic/drama harem mecha.

Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is an awesome vampire horror movie. It's classic anime. This is also one of the few animes that I recommend the english dub over english subtitles,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GnpFXUQUyk


Wasn't Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust actually animated and created with English as the first language and adapted to Japanese later?
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Bakassasin wrote:

I mean you would think with the popularity of higurashi, another, hellsing, elfen lied, blood +, monster, code geass, etc they would make more. If anyone knows a good one that isnt any of the ones i mention feel free to enlighten me.



Believe me, living in Japan for an extended period of time will eventually open your eyes to the striking differences in taste between Japanese anime fans and Western anime fans.

Based on my experiences in living in Japan and the United States and interacting with both Japanese and American anime fans, this is what I noticed between the two:


At the moment, this is what's popular among many Japanese fans (not all):

-Hot-blooded teenaged shounen action heroes
-Sexy and fanservicey bishoujo girls
-Cute and/or fanservicey moe girls
-Handsome/Pretty/Sexy bishounen dudes


And according to observation, a lot of American fans (not all) seem to crave the following:

-Ultraviolence
-Blood and Gore
-Guns
-Generic 30-year-old hypermasculine/macho first person shooter/Hollywood protagonist.


Given the (extremely) limited budget of many anime studios, why should they fulfill western fads and interests (which are quite niche among Japanese fans) when there is a lot more money and profit to be made with Japanese fads? This is exactly the reason why you see a lot of shounen action shows, moe romantic comedies, moe girl-centric shows, and bishounen reverse harems being made nowadays instead of gory horror stuff.

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Posted 7/8/13 , edited 7/8/13

waverat81 wrote:


Stewker wrote:

The first two episodes of Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse are very good for horror/gore. After that it turns into an entirely different show, a comedic/drama harem mecha.

Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is an awesome vampire horror movie. It's classic anime. This is also one of the few animes that I recommend the english dub over english subtitles,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GnpFXUQUyk


Wasn't Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust actually animated and created with English as the first language and adapted to Japanese later?


You are right. Which I guess is one reason why, in this case, the English track is superior to the Japanese one.
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Posted 7/9/13 , edited 7/9/13

mahoshojo03 wrote:


Bakassasin wrote:

I mean you would think with the popularity of higurashi, another, hellsing, elfen lied, blood +, monster, code geass, etc they would make more. If anyone knows a good one that isnt any of the ones i mention feel free to enlighten me.



Believe me, living in Japan for an extended period of time will eventually open your eyes to the striking differences in taste between Japanese anime fans and Western anime fans.

Based on my experiences in living in Japan and the United States and interacting with both Japanese and American anime fans, this is what I noticed between the two:


At the moment, this is what's popular among many Japanese fans (not all):

-Hot-blooded teenaged shounen action heroes
-Sexy and fanservicey bishoujo girls
-Cute and/or fanservicey moe girls
-Handsome/Pretty/Sexy bishounen dudes


And according to observation, a lot of American fans (not all) seem to crave the following:

-Ultraviolence
-Blood and Gore
-Guns
-Generic 30-year-old hypermasculine/macho first person shooter/Hollywood protagonist.


Given the (extremely) limited budget of many anime studios, why should they fulfill western fads and interests (which are quite niche among Japanese fans) when there is a lot more money and profit to be made with Japanese fads? This is exactly the reason why you see a lot of shounen action shows, moe romantic comedies, moe girl-centric shows, and bishounen reverse harems being made nowadays instead of gory horror stuff.



I feel like this would be the hook for western culture, most of the anime that comes out is still very foreign and viewed differently. The "violence" and "gore" are the types that get people watching it in the first place and hopefully move into some of the better ones.

This is not to say that they should ignore the alternatives but if they can move past that initial stage of foreign culture then they can enjoy the anime genre much more in depth.
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Well I've never once seen an anime that I would call horror because there is nothing scary about them. As far as gory, well there's tons of that if you look even a bit out of the main stream.

As far as intellectual, well that depends what you consider as intellectual. There are a ton of manga I would call intellectual, but for a company to drop the budget on an anime, they have to be confident it will reach as much of an audience that it needs to be profitable.
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