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Posted 7/14/13 , edited 7/14/13

So you're telling me that if a person broke into your home and puts your family lives at danger. You kill him. So you should spend 15 years in jail for protecting your family?

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Doesn't matter. He still murdered some other human being. It's a FACT. There should be some kind of a felonious charge that applies. Even if he didn't have the intention to kill. The fact is, he got away with killing someone, completely. No community service, no fee, nothing.


Self-defense is not murder. Zimmerman was fully justified in doing whatever he needed to do to protect himself against the guy who was pounding his head into the ground. And the jury agreed. Nobody should be forced by a criminal to decide between death or imprisonment.
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The law is just a set of rules established for keeping order. It does not dictate morality or how beneficial something may be. Legal =/= moral =/= beneficial.

The purpose of the justice system should not be to simply establish whether or not a person broke the law. It should be to determine whether a person's actions were justified or not and, if not, to provide a punishment that is fair.

If an action is justified, the person performing it should not be punished. Simple. If you believe that simply breaking a law means that a person deserves punishment, you really need to delve deeper and look at the details. Not doing so would mean that you are punishing everyone equally and without discrimination when, in fact, people should not receive cruel and unusual punishment. Punishments should fit the weight of the crime. If a self-defense kill is justified, the person in question did not do something inherently wrong and, thus, committed no crime and should not be punished for such a crime.

So, yeah....."So you're telling me that if a person broke in your home and puts your family lives at danger. You kill him. So you should spend 15 years in jail for protecting your family?"

Punishing everyone who has killed without taking into consideration why they have killed is very shallow and unwise. The person either falls victim to the attacker or is punked by the court for doing the only thing he could to preserve his/her own well-being. You are indirectly siding with the instigator of the unwarranted assault if you punish his intended victim, whether or not the attacker is alive.
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Something that needs to be said: despite what almost everybody seems to be saying, Zimmerman's defense was not based on Stand Your Ground laws in any way whatsoever, but rather ordinary self-defense laws. Stand Your Ground does not apply because Zimmerman was not in any position to retreat while Trayvon Martin was on top of him.
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why can't we spend money on coverage of all court cases. hell make it a reality show with Star power judges. hell we can even let america decide via texting
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Just a bit ago the jury found GZ not guilty in killing Trayvon Martin. Not even a manslaughter charge. So word of warning everyone stay away from Florida.


Florida's stand your ground law clearly states that if you are threatened you are allowed to kill your attacker. The fact that he was injured meant that it was an act of self defense. The whole trial was stupid from the beginning.
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What I don't really understand is how this incident became such a media circus to begin with. People are shot every day: people of every age and race, and under various circumstances. How did this case become so special? Maybe I'm just cynical after years in law enforcement, but seems like just another shooting to me.
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What I don't really understand is how this incident became such a media circus to begin with. People are shot every day: people of every age and race, and under various circumstances. How did this case become so special? Maybe I'm just cynical after years in law enforcement, but seems like just another shooting to me.


Finally. Someone who thinks like me.
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moonhawk81 wrote:

What I don't really understand is how this incident became such a media circus to begin with. People are shot every day: people of every age and race, and under various circumstances. How did this case become so special? Maybe I'm just cynical after years in law enforcement, but seems like just another shooting to me.


Because the media blew it up as an act of racial violence.
Posted 7/14/13

koji8123 wrote:


chase6565 wrote:


mmadbzfan wrote:

Just a bit ago the jury found GZ not guilty in killing Trayvon Martin. Not even a manslaughter charge. So word of warning everyone stay away from Florida.


Honestly, I agree with the verdict. The evidence heavily support Zimmerman's side of the story, and he didn't seem like a man who would just kill someone. However, Zimmerman should've never gotten out of his car that night and this incident should've never happened. Well that's my two cents anyways. This is a sad story either way.


Doesn't matter. He still murdered some other human being. It's a FACT. There should be some kind of a felonious charge that applies. Even if he didn't have the intention to kill. The fact is, he got away with killing someone, completely. No community service, no fee, nothing.


Yes, there should've been some sort of punishment thrown his way without a doubt. Murder charges? Hell no. What he did was in self defense. Also, the definition for murder is this: The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. What Zimmerman did wasn't premeditated. He didn't exit his vehicle ready to kill Trayvon Martin. What really disappoints me though is the fact that I read an article today that said Zimmerman is allowed to get his gun (or rights to owning a weapon) back. That, to me, is a load of shit. This would've never happened if it wasn't for Zimmerman trying to play cop. Even though I agree with the not guilty verdict I still can agree with that. Should he have been punished in some form (definitely not being able to own a weapon for the rest of his life)? Yes, no doubt. But was he guilty of murder? No.

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What a coincidence


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Im not justifying Zimmerman shooting Trayvon but if he had a gun and was going to shoot why not aim below the waist. Then Trayvon would not have died but probably would have been incapacitated. Hell would of been raged but not to the point of a riot. As a lot people pointed out the media painted these two victims as a certain picture and no one knew what really happened that night except for Zimmerman and Trayvon.

Personally I dont think the whole "people are killed everyday speech" really holds a candle to something like this, because although it is true both parties were at fault, I think Z went overboard and should pay for his actions. However, if you are going to pull that "people die everyday bullshit card" atleast have similar examples to this because people die everyday for different reasons: war, gangs, racism, psychopaths, serial killers, reckless child endangerment, etc.... I dont think it is a similar example to this incident that why it caught people off guard at least it caught me off guard. Two minorities at that, it is common but doesnt attract media like this incident did.
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Posted 7/14/13 , edited 7/14/13

moonhawk81 wrote:

What I don't really understand is how this incident became such a media circus to begin with. People are shot every day: people of every age and race, and under various circumstances. How did this case become so special? Maybe I'm just cynical after years in law enforcement, but seems like just another shooting to me.

It's all about the money. It always has been and it always will be. Sad really.
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Posted 7/14/13
Ahhh bleeding hearts... You're all being played. Don't get tunnel-visioned now.
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Posted 7/14/13
You know, It's still funny that most of the jury were women.

Man, if I EVER see Zimmerman moving into my block, I'll break over to his house, tie him up, and deport his ass back to Cuba. Let Castro take care of him.
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