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The man was innocent, personally if you're on top of me smashing my head into the concrete, I'm gonna kill you. I don't care what color you are.


Yeah, because a grown man can't throw a skinny 17 year-old off of him. I personally he should have gotten something, because in reality, how heavy does Trayvon have to be for Zimmerman not to be able to throw him off when he's a pretty decent-sized man.
Either way, I hope people will just stop protesting. Obviously enough, doing it from the beginning didn't change a thing, what would it really do now?
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Wigglee wrote:

The man was innocent, personally if you're on top of me smashing my head into the concrete, I'm gonna kill you. I don't care what color you are.


Yeah, because a grown man can't throw a skinny 17 year-old off of him. I personally he should have gotten something, because in reality, how heavy does Trayvon have to be for Zimmerman not to be able to throw him off when he's a pretty decent-sized man.
Either way, I hope people will just stop protesting. Obviously enough, doing it from the beginning didn't change a thing, what would it really do now?


Look at internet tough girl here.

You might never get to experience this, being a girl and all, but when you have a 17 year old punching you repeatedly in the face/head, it's kind of hard to react the way you want things to. Especially when you don't see it coming.


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The moment Zimmerman thought it was a good idea to follow him.


Being followed does not justify jumping a person, punching him in the face, climbing on top of him, and then pounding his head into concrete. Which is irrelevant anyways, because George Zimmerman stated that Trayvon Martin jumped him on his way back to his car, and there is absolutely no evidence that contradicts this.


its pretty easy to talk about the events of a incident when the only other witness was killed by you.
I dont fucking like your attitude. you just get spoonfed lies and beleive them. people fucking lie ESPECIALLY when jail is thrown in the mix.

if i killed you i definetly wouldnt try to lie at all........right?


Because taking a person's word is all they do to determine a sentence in a court of law.

You might not know this, but there are things called evidence. Evidence > Your interpertation of events, when convincing the jury.
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d4nchan wrote:


Wigglee wrote:

The man was innocent, personally if you're on top of me smashing my head into the concrete, I'm gonna kill you. I don't care what color you are.


Yeah, because a grown man can't throw a skinny 17 year-old off of him. I personally he should have gotten something, because in reality, how heavy does Trayvon have to be for Zimmerman not to be able to throw him off when he's a pretty decent-sized man.
Either way, I hope people will just stop protesting. Obviously enough, doing it from the beginning didn't change a thing, what would it really do now?


I agree with your second part, protesting will get them nowhere. The Justice system has already decided, as for your first point, When someone is on top of you raining down punches and slamming your head into the ground, most people are going to try to protect their face when that kinda thing happens, you only have so many hands so what're you gonna do? Plus they even have the MMA coach that Zimmerman trained with saying he was a pansy, he was too weak to do MMA and he couldn't even punch the bag because his wrists were too weak. If you've ever been in that position you know that throwing someone off when they're in a full guard is easier said than done, especially like I said if you're being attacked.
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Wigglee wrote:


d4nchan wrote:


Wigglee wrote:

The man was innocent, personally if you're on top of me smashing my head into the concrete, I'm gonna kill you. I don't care what color you are.


Yeah, because a grown man can't throw a skinny 17 year-old off of him. I personally he should have gotten something, because in reality, how heavy does Trayvon have to be for Zimmerman not to be able to throw him off when he's a pretty decent-sized man.
Either way, I hope people will just stop protesting. Obviously enough, doing it from the beginning didn't change a thing, what would it really do now?


I agree with your second part, protesting will get them nowhere. The Justice system has already decided, as for your first point, When someone is on top of you raining down punches and slamming your head into the ground, most people are going to try to protect their face when that kinda thing happens, you only have so many hands so what're you gonna do? Plus they even have the MMA coach that Zimmerman trained with saying he was a pansy, he was too weak to do MMA and he couldn't even punch the bag because his wrists were too weak. If you've ever been in that position you know that throwing someone off when they're in a full guard is easier said than done, especially like I said if you're being attacked.


I hadn't known that but, that does make sense and I had been in a situation like that but, it'd been more of a sparring-type moment. I realize now that it wouldn't be the easiest thing to do. And, with my second point, I honestly had forgotten about this until recently. It's not affecting me in any way, shape, or form. More than half of the people causing a raucous aren't going to get anything personal out of it, and it's highly likely that anything will change because of said actions.. If a 13 year-old girl can get that into her brain, other people should be able to do just that.
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This thread is guilty of misleading information and falsifying accusation. :3
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So now we're victim blaming the 17-year-old for "not taking action" instead of the grown ass 28-year-old man whose suppose to be the adult in the situation? Zimmerman was not associated with the neighborhood watch and even if he was, a neighborhood watchman's job is to not confront, but to observe. Why didn't Zimmerman obey 911 dispatchers? Why did he pursue Trayvon to begin with? This entire thing could have been avoided if Zimmerman hadn't been a wannabee vigilantly and took the law into his own hands.


Actually, George Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch coordinator. He was observing Trayvon and that is why he called the police. The dispatcher asked which direction Trayvon was headed and that is when the door chimes were heard on the call with the dispatcher and when Zimmerman left the vehicle. The dispatcher asked if Zimmerman was following Trayvon and he said yes. The dispatcher said we don't need you to do this and Zimmerman said okay. At this point, he headed back to his vehicle and hung up with the dispatcher. He was then approached by Trayvon instead of Trayvon proceeding to his destination, or calling the police himself to say he was being followed. This on its own leads me to think that Trayvon intended on an altercation. Not only this, but Trayvon was only 70 yards from the back door of the father's fiancé's home when he proceeded to assault Zimmerman. He could have easily gone inside instead of approaching Zimmerman and instead chose otherwise.

As far as people saying Zimmerman was stalking - there is a difference in the definition of stalking and following. Zimmerman was definitely only following Trayvon. And this is not against the law. I can follow anyone I want down my street and open carry while I stroll through my neighborhood. And watching out for suspicious people is not being a wannabee vigilante...it is unfortunate that more people nowadays don't watch out for their neighbors and just don't want to get involved when there is a crime.
If I had a neighbor like Zimmerman, maybe the police would have been called while my home was being broken into, instead of the old man across the street who decided he didn't want repercussions for helping so he didn't call the police...
There is nothing racial in my being suspicious of anyone I don't know on my street. There is nothing racial in my coming to ask you who you are if you are in my neighbors yard or wandering around door to door trying to sell something.
I have done this and more, and will continue to do so because there is a reason to. And I refuse to be victimized again when there are things I can do to prevent it.
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d4nchan wrote:


Wigglee wrote:


d4nchan wrote:


Wigglee wrote:

The man was innocent, personally if you're on top of me smashing my head into the concrete, I'm gonna kill you. I don't care what color you are.


Yeah, because a grown man can't throw a skinny 17 year-old off of him. I personally he should have gotten something, because in reality, how heavy does Trayvon have to be for Zimmerman not to be able to throw him off when he's a pretty decent-sized man.
Either way, I hope people will just stop protesting. Obviously enough, doing it from the beginning didn't change a thing, what would it really do now?


I agree with your second part, protesting will get them nowhere. The Justice system has already decided, as for your first point, When someone is on top of you raining down punches and slamming your head into the ground, most people are going to try to protect their face when that kinda thing happens, you only have so many hands so what're you gonna do? Plus they even have the MMA coach that Zimmerman trained with saying he was a pansy, he was too weak to do MMA and he couldn't even punch the bag because his wrists were too weak. If you've ever been in that position you know that throwing someone off when they're in a full guard is easier said than done, especially like I said if you're being attacked.


I hadn't known that but, that does make sense and I had been in a situation like that but, it'd been more of a sparring-type moment. I realize now that it wouldn't be the easiest thing to do. And, with my second point, I honestly had forgotten about this until recently. It's not affecting me in any way, shape, or form. More than half of the people causing a raucous aren't going to get anything personal out of it, and it's highly likely that anything will change because of said actions.. If a 13 year-old girl can get that into her brain, other people should be able to do just that.


It's not affecting me at all, what is affecting me is people are turning this into a race thing when it is cut and dry self defense.
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Actually, George Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch coordinator. He was observing Trayvon and that is why he called the police. The dispatcher asked which direction Trayvon was headed and that is when the door chimes were heard on the call with the dispatcher and when Zimmerman left the vehicle. The dispatcher asked if Zimmerman was following Trayvon and he said yes. The dispatcher said we don't need you to do this and Zimmerman said okay. At this point, he headed back to his vehicle and hung up with the dispatcher. He was then approached by Trayvon instead of Trayvon proceeding to his destination, or calling the police himself to say he was being followed. This on its own leads me to think that Trayvon intended on an altercation. Not only this, but Trayvon was only 70 yards from the back door of the father's fiancé's home when he proceeded to assault Zimmerman. He could have easily gone inside instead of approaching Zimmerman and instead chose otherwise.

As far as people saying Zimmerman was stalking - there is a difference in the definition of stalking and following. Zimmerman was definitely only following Trayvon. And this is not against the law. I can follow anyone I want down my street and open carry while I stroll through my neighborhood. And watching out for suspicious people is not being a wannabee vigilante...it is unfortunate that more people nowadays don't watch out for their neighbors and just don't want to get involved when there is a crime.
If I had a neighbor like Zimmerman, maybe the police would have been called while my home was being broken into, instead of the old man across the street who decided he didn't want repercussions for helping so he didn't call the police...
There is nothing racial in my being suspicious of anyone I don't know on my street. There is nothing racial in my coming to ask you who you are if you are in my neighbors yard or wandering around door to door trying to sell something.
I have done this and more, and will continue to do so because there is a reason to. And I refuse to be victimized again when there are things I can do to prevent it.


My car was not working so I had to walk to work a mile away. The walk home was at 3 am in the cold, I was wearing a black hooded coat. I'm white and a white cop pulled up and asked what I was doing. I was well aware I probably looked suspicious and fully cooperated so it became a non-event. The point is that race has nothing at all to do with it just as you point out. It has everything to do with someone that is out of place in an area you feel a responsibility to protect.
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Wigglee wrote:


d4nchan wrote:


Wigglee wrote:


d4nchan wrote:


Wigglee wrote:

The man was innocent, personally if you're on top of me smashing my head into the concrete, I'm gonna kill you. I don't care what color you are.


Yeah, because a grown man can't throw a skinny 17 year-old off of him. I personally he should have gotten something, because in reality, how heavy does Trayvon have to be for Zimmerman not to be able to throw him off when he's a pretty decent-sized man.
Either way, I hope people will just stop protesting. Obviously enough, doing it from the beginning didn't change a thing, what would it really do now?


I agree with your second part, protesting will get them nowhere. The Justice system has already decided, as for your first point, When someone is on top of you raining down punches and slamming your head into the ground, most people are going to try to protect their face when that kinda thing happens, you only have so many hands so what're you gonna do? Plus they even have the MMA coach that Zimmerman trained with saying he was a pansy, he was too weak to do MMA and he couldn't even punch the bag because his wrists were too weak. If you've ever been in that position you know that throwing someone off when they're in a full guard is easier said than done, especially like I said if you're being attacked.


I hadn't known that but, that does make sense and I had been in a situation like that but, it'd been more of a sparring-type moment. I realize now that it wouldn't be the easiest thing to do. And, with my second point, I honestly had forgotten about this until recently. It's not affecting me in any way, shape, or form. More than half of the people causing a raucous aren't going to get anything personal out of it, and it's highly likely that anything will change because of said actions.. If a 13 year-old girl can get that into her brain, other people should be able to do just that.


It's not affecting me at all, what is affecting me is people are turning this into a race thing when it is cut and dry self defense.


From a black person's standpoint, it does look like racism but, then again, I hate to say that whenever we see anything against another black person I think most just scream "racist" automatically, like it's a reflex. I agree, to a point, that it was just self defense on both sides although, I'm more lenient towards Trayvon's. Still, my side doesn't matter, so why should I stress on it?

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i personally felt that zimmerman should of been found guilty. that's just my opinion
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i'm not replying to any more comments i get from this fuckin thread i'll just say that i'm glad to know that if i want to I can go after anyone i want and if I kill them all I have to do is scratch my face up a bit and make up a story because you know thats how america works..............
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Here is a little something I said in a facebook comment when people were talking about the Zimmerman case.

"The fact is no one but Zim and Tray know how it all went down. We will probably never know. We can also say that we would react this way or that way if in that situation. Everyone reacts differently. Having been the victim of violent crime, I can tell you right now that in a situation where there is blood flying and you are being pummeled, you will do ANYTHING to survive. It's purely instinctual. Adrenaline is pumping and you're not thinking so much as you are just reacting. Even as I am typing this, I am hearing someone speaking as if they were there and can prove that this or that happens. So many armchair lawyers out there, claiming they know how it happened when there is no way they can prove it one way or the other. The jury saw all the evidence and they found Zim innocent. They saw many things that most people never saw so I have to go with their verdict."

Another comment I made was (paraphrasing here) "As the law is written, the jury could not find Zimmerman guilty."

"As the law is written...."

Maybe instead of protesting against a not guilty verdict and screaming about racism, people need to go to the source that allowed Zimmerman to walk free: the Stand Your Ground Law. It looks like it needs retooling and rewording to prevent this type of thing from happening again. I cannot figure out why no one is talking about this in the media. Oh, that's right. Sensationalism over facts.
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Mayo2111 wrote:
Another comment I made was (paraphrasing here) "As the law is written, the jury could not find Zimmerman guilty."

"As the law is written...."

Maybe instead of protesting against a not guilty verdict and screaming about racism, people need to go to the source that allowed Zimmerman to walk free: the Stand Your Ground Law. It looks like it needs retooling and rewording to prevent this type of thing from happening again. I cannot figure out why no one is talking about this in the media. Oh, that's right. Sensationalism over facts.


Actually, the Stand Your Ground Law was not a factor in this case at all. Zimmerman was penned down, so he couldn't retreat, so plain old self-defense laws were invoked for the defense.
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After a few minutes of reading this thread, I'd like to say that I find it ironic that a mixed group of teenage and adult anime fans seems to have done a better job debating this situation with civility than most of the professional commentators on the cable news stations.

As for my opinion, perhaps there should be a change to the concealed carry laws in FL to say that you have a responsibility to avoid if reasonably possible a confrontation while carrying concealed. If that were the law, Zimmerman may have waited for the police and stayed in his car, or he could have been charged with an offense, or at the very least had his concealed carry rights reviewed.

But the way the law is written, it would have been, in my opinion, unreasonable to find a man guilty of manslaughter or 2nd degree murder when he fired a single shot while being physically attacked.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVTPily3ZyU

John Oliver on the daily show discussing the trial found it hilarious.
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