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What is crying
Posted 7/14/13
Do you see crying as a weakness or a strength?
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Posted 7/14/13
Depends on how it is used.
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Depends.

I usually hold myself from having even a thought of crying whatever the situation is. Tho last month I managed to drop few tears as I were holding many problems and they started to collect to almost unbearable amount and it crushed me as situation to get out from deep whole I did dig for myself started to seem hopeless and impossible.
But anyways sometimes its for good to drop some tears. Can make you feel better. All people feel different for different things so there is no possibility to judge the reason.
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Well, obviously it's a weakness, it's when you let your emotions overpower you so much that they drip onto your shirt, interfere with your vision, make you look all sad and pathetic, and this is just if it's tears - if it's proper full-on bawling, you get snot as well, and that's just awful.

But, a character that cries sometime isn't necessarily weaker for it, because a character with flaws seems more real and three-dimensional than a flawless mary-sue that wouldn't cry for any reason, and so sometimes it makes sense to have a strong character cry, and having them not cry wouldn't make them appear stronger so much as it would make them seem fake.

That fact doesn't mean crying is itself a strength, though, it's a show of weakness, if you disagree about that you're confused or just plain wrong.
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Rowan93 wrote:

Well, obviously it's a weakness, it's when you let your emotions overpower you so much that they drip onto your shirt, interfere with your vision, make you look all sad and pathetic, and this is just if it's tears - if it's proper full-on bawling, you get snot as well, and that's just awful.

But, a character that cries sometime isn't necessarily weaker for it, because a character with flaws seems more real and three-dimensional than a flawless mary-sue that wouldn't cry for any reason, and so sometimes it makes sense to have a strong character cry, and having them not cry wouldn't make them appear stronger so much as it would make them seem fake.

That fact doesn't mean crying is itself a strength, though, it's a show of weakness, if you disagree about that you're confused or just plain wrong.


You obviously haven't thought enough about it to realize that crying can be a useful tool to get things you want when used in different situations. It can even be used to confuse and deceive people. That would make it a strength.
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Posted 7/14/13

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Rowan93 wrote:

Well, obviously it's a weakness, it's when you let your emotions overpower you so much that they drip onto your shirt, interfere with your vision, make you look all sad and pathetic, and this is just if it's tears - if it's proper full-on bawling, you get snot as well, and that's just awful.

But, a character that cries sometime isn't necessarily weaker for it, because a character with flaws seems more real and three-dimensional than a flawless mary-sue that wouldn't cry for any reason, and so sometimes it makes sense to have a strong character cry, and having them not cry wouldn't make them appear stronger so much as it would make them seem fake.

That fact doesn't mean crying is itself a strength, though, it's a show of weakness, if you disagree about that you're confused or just plain wrong.


You obviously haven't thought enough about it to realize that crying can be a useful tool to get things you want when used in different situations. It can even be used to confuse and deceive people. That would make it a strength.


Deceit is a force multiplier. Strength is what you have before you take force-multipliers into account. Being weak enough to need to use cowardly, underhanded tactics is proof of weakness. Using cowardly, underhanded tactics when you don't need to shows an incredible weakness of character.
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Rowan93 wrote:

Well, obviously it's a weakness, it's when you let your emotions overpower you so much that they drip onto your shirt, interfere with your vision, make you look all sad and pathetic, and this is just if it's tears - if it's proper full-on bawling, you get snot as well, and that's just awful.

But, a character that cries sometime isn't necessarily weaker for it, because a character with flaws seems more real and three-dimensional than a flawless mary-sue that wouldn't cry for any reason, and so sometimes it makes sense to have a strong character cry, and having them not cry wouldn't make them appear stronger so much as it would make them seem fake.

That fact doesn't mean crying is itself a strength, though, it's a show of weakness, if you disagree about that you're confused or just plain wrong.


What, exactly, is inherently weak about having strong emotions? What's inherently weak about releasing those strong emotions in a totally natural way?
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What is crying..... eye-pee?
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It is a physical reaction of happiness, sorrow, pain, etc. And, it's perfectly OK to cry. Honestly, people... *grumbles*
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justanotherguy_2005 wrote:


You obviously haven't thought enough about it to realize that crying can be a useful tool to get things you want when used in different situations. It can even be used to confuse and deceive people. That would make it a strength.


That's not a strength, that's being dishonest and probably comes about due to weakness in the first place.
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We will just have to disagree on that then. What is considered a strong character and a weak character is merely opinion.


CarboKill wrote:


justanotherguy_2005 wrote:


You obviously haven't thought enough about it to realize that crying can be a useful tool to get things you want when used in different situations. It can even be used to confuse and deceive people. That would make it a strength.


That's not a strength, that's being dishonest and probably comes about due to weakness in the first place.


Not necessarily. What constitutes strength is all based on ones point of view anyway. Deceit has always been a tool to be used when necessary or when it is the best option. Even when used for fun doesn't make it any less useful in situations. When someone uses it to do something a majority deem wrong we look down on it but if, for example, a cop uses it to trip up a criminal into saying something he shouldn't most of us applaud the cop for using a good strategy and outsmarting them. In my opinion it doesn't make either side weak.
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justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

In my opinion it doesn't make either side weak.


In my opinion it does.
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Posted 7/14/13

CarboKill wrote:


justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

In my opinion it doesn't make either side weak.


In my opinion it does.


And neither side wins the debate.
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justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

And neither side wins the debate.


Debate is such a cringeworthy word. Personally, i'm alright in admitting that everything we say is insignificant and worthless, and merely serves to kill our own time. When you think like that, suddenly it's hard to give a shit about the "debate" in the first place. Man, I love over-thinking everything.
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Posted 7/14/13

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Rowan93 wrote:

Well, obviously it's a weakness, it's when you let your emotions overpower you so much that they drip onto your shirt, interfere with your vision, make you look all sad and pathetic, and this is just if it's tears - if it's proper full-on bawling, you get snot as well, and that's just awful.

But, a character that cries sometime isn't necessarily weaker for it, because a character with flaws seems more real and three-dimensional than a flawless mary-sue that wouldn't cry for any reason, and so sometimes it makes sense to have a strong character cry, and having them not cry wouldn't make them appear stronger so much as it would make them seem fake.

That fact doesn't mean crying is itself a strength, though, it's a show of weakness, if you disagree about that you're confused or just plain wrong.


What, exactly, is inherently weak about having strong emotions? What's inherently weak about releasing those strong emotions in a totally natural way?


Emotions are qualia, talking about how strong one person's emotions are relative to another person's is pointless, perhaps even meaningless, because of how completely unmeasurable they are.

Thus, "having strong emotions" is only meaningful in relative terms, compared to other parts of one's psyche. In this case, either it's opposing one's willpower, or nothing at all, depending on whether the crier is trying not to cry or not.

If it's not opposing anything, then describing the situation as "having strong emotions" is utterly meaningless.

If it's opposing one's willpower, then "having strong emotions" means "having emotions that are stronger than one's willpower", which is isomorphic with "being weak-willed". Being weak-willed is inherently weak.
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