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this belong to general discussion?
p.s:many of your forum topic been looked
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Extended discussion.

As in, long well elaborated posts. Not a single sentence post.
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world wont become peace
why because police will lose the job
there will no lawyer in this world
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sorry to disappoint. There will always be war as long as there are living being.

even animals have a war for hunting grounds, refuge. Humans will always fight for resources,
minerals etc.stuff you dont hac within your own boarder or just to get rid of an enemy off your back.

its just that simple




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The world will never reach world peace, because what is peaceful for one culture may not be necessarily peaceful to another.

The contention exists in the mere fact that the world is a conglomeration of different beliefs and different belief systems. Though they may have certain qualities that allow them to collaborate, they are overshadowed by the fact that they have many differences, and these differences usually lead to misunderstandings; and at worse, conflict.



But this isn't to say that peace is not impossible. It is, but not on a global level. To bestow upon every human being the divine blessing of pure, absolute understanding is enough to say that we are all Gods on this earth. If you want world peace, it means sterilization of the human mind to accommodate a stringent set of values that it would consider as pure and complete. If you work on a theoretical model, this could probably work, but the world is far more complex than that.

Would you believe me if I said that if Hitler secured victory in the second world war, that we would have world peace? He would have eliminated all those that opposed him, strengthened the belief that the Aryan race was the chosen supremacy of all mankind... there would be world peace, because everyone would believe him and the world would follow all the values that he would declare as fitting for mankind and the survival of the human race.

But really, is this world peace?



Try define it first, before you go asking if it's possible.
Posted 1/26/08
You can solve one issue, but one will always follow.

Chaos theory, which has been proved time and time and time again, states that perfection is just impossible. I believe "world peace" can't and will therefore never be accomplished.
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i just want to know people's opinions and by doing so people would find out how one reacts to another's opinion. soo if u know what the other thinks,then u can probably work things out. i just want people to stimulate their brains ... not offending anyone but everyone has a say to this


I didn't accuse you of offending anyone, I simply stated my opinion:

"know first what you mean by world peace, before you go asking if it's possible."


And this isn't directed at you, personally ~ it's directed to everyone who's seeking to make a difference in this world as ambassadors of peace.

Simply "knowing" peoples' opinions is not enough. You have to understand the context of these values for peace, and what it means to be in a state of constant conflict. Is peace truly the absence of conflict, or serenity amidst the chaos and turmoil of the world that is, most definitely, unavoidable?




Fluorescent wrote:

You can solve one issue, but one will always follow.

Chaos theory, which has been proved time and time and time again, states that perfection is just impossible. I believe "world peace" can't and will therefore never be accomplished.


The problem with your statement is that you're assuming World peace = perfection. Perhaps you mean world peace is quixotic, hence it is impossible to achieve, just as it is impossible to reach a state of perfection... but saying world peace is perfection is most definitely a fallacy.

How could a world be perfect if there was no conflict, or better yet, peace? I find such a world lacking, and far from perfect... don't you?
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as long as there are humans there will be war, it's part of humam nature, people are bad, people are cruel, people do things that shouldn't be done, and that's reality
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ok ur right.. but what im saying is not world peace = perfection. but u know those old days where people dont crave for money... its just the modern day that sort of pollutes the mind of people. and y cant people just think about others first not for theirselves... i mean okay im not even at my college years.. and im not a genius.. i just want other peoples opinions.. i dont want to fight about this.. just answer yes or no and a brief explanation


You have an odd knack of jumping to conclusions... I wasn't referring to you when I said "world peace ≠ perfection"... I was referring to Fluorescent, hence the quote...


Also, if you're not aware, this is part of the extended discussion thread. A simply "yes" or "no" won't suffice, and more so a simple, brief explanation... and isn't it obvious that I'm already telling you No? But to be honest, I don't think the question "Will there ever be world peace?" can be answer with a simple yes or no. There are a lot of nuances to consider, and it begins with something as simple as "what is world peace?" ~ which is what I've been pushing since the beginning.


And, if you want peace in the forums, would you avoid double posting, please? Thank you.
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Guys I hate to bitch, but this is a extended discussion topic, stop posting stupid shit. Posting that Kira (Light) will save the world isn't an extended discussion post. Explaining why he would in details would fit, but just saying just because he's here/there it's all good. [Edit]: Plus saying such a thing is pretty stupid...

3694, the forums aren't a place for escaping from boredom. It just isn't, because it's really no fun when you're not even attempting at anything good. But please don't respond back, just reflect, this topic is going off-topic as is. And I don't want to make it more off-topic, but I still want you to stop answering back to people who are saying you did a bad job. Just know your mistake, and move on. Answering them will just derail this whole topic further.

Anyways, World Peace, may or may not happen. It definitely will not happen anytime soon, because of poor countries, and countries who want to be all that. Meh, it may never happen, it may. It's all in the unpredicatable future, new religions may pop out and destroy the peace. All these kinds of things will play factor to if it happens or not, my opinion is, it most likely won't happen. Until somehow ignorance is gotten rid of, but as I can see it... it's most likely to never happen.
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HokiePokie wrote:

Anyways, World Peace, may or may not happen. It definitely will not happen anytime soon, because of poor countries, and countries who want to be all that. Meh, it may never happen, it may. It's all in the unpredicatable future, new religions may pop out and destroy the peace. All these kinds of things will play factor to if it happens or not, my opinion is, it most likely won't happen. Until somehow ignorance is gotten rid of, but as I can see it... it's most likely to never happen.


Hence, the more pertinent question would be: "what would it mean to live in a world that is living in a state of world peace?"

I think this implies a lot of philosophical dispute. Sterilization of human thought, the homogenization of all culture/value systems... The list goes on and on...
Posted 1/26/08
no beucz everyone has different point of views for peace. like someone can be the next hitler and find peace by killing off all catholics.
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3694 wrote:


You have an odd knack of jumping to conclusions... I wasn't referring to you when I said "world peace ≠ perfection"... I was referring to Fluorescent, hence the quote...


Also, if you're not aware, this is part of the extended discussion thread. A simply "yes" or "no" won't suffice, and more so a simple, brief explanation... and isn't it obvious that I'm already telling you No?


And, if you want peace in the forums, would you avoid double posting, please? Thank you.



i didnt realize i was double posting since i have a slow connection, and i didnt mean to do that. i know its annoying.

and since i started this topic, i just want to speak my mind out. im an open minded person, i just want to know further why people think that way.

ok if u want to explain your answers in a not-so-simple explanation then do so



Simple isn't always the best way to go. Getting in depth is always a good thing, it gives people more thought into what you're saying, and better understand your true meaning. Because we all know we can't always say exactly what we mean on a forum, or even through speaking. But giving a good description of what you mean can always help people understand better... anyways... please. Like I said before, learn from your mistakes, and stop derailing this any further.

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World Peace right now, wouldn't be so lovely. Because opinions need to expressed, and sadly war is one of the ways to express opinions. If the whole world isn't well developed morally World Peace wouldn't do the world much good, because countries are stubborn mother fuckers. You can't reason with many of them without violence, it's sad but true. People act like war is an all around bad thing for the world, it's actually good and bad. Bad for people dying and getting injured... mental illnesses that come from the violence.. etc. Good because reality it expresses opinions. If it's a war over resources, depending on what it is... if it's over peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.. hmm..

War can be to express a country's dislike of another country's/group's morals, like Hitler thinking it's right to kill all the Jewish people. Just going "Hey Hitler! That's not nice :(, you make us not like you..." most likely wouldn't have made a difference, war made the difference in stopping him. And saving Jewish people's lives, like Nina! *hides* Many pointless wars go on, but many of them actually are for something important. Something that can only be taken care of with violence (war.)
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and there shall be humans that want to rule the world

but this makes everybody's personality different
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I doubt there'll be world peace, due to the fact that Jealousy/Envy/Hate all those kind of feelings is in side humans and they're one of the many human natures there are.

and due to them, things will be done, War is another cost and the result is....Trash >_<

we know better than to have wars, but we're not good enough to stop wars >_< because there'll always be something one wants or think unfair of...thats' human =l the only way to have world peace is when all dies.
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