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The structure of DNA appears to be intelligently designed, what are the implications?
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Well, I believe it to be intelligently designed, but others would probably say that it is human nature to see patterns and confer upon patterns greater significance than they are due.

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The sheer lunacy and retardation of people who believe in ID appears to be designed, implications?

If you actually look at the structure of DNA its clearly either not designed or designed by a pretty bad designer, given all the problems it throws up and huge limitations it does place on things.
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It doesn't appear to be intelligently designed, so there aren't really implications.
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Lol, topics like these really get me passionate and fired up. I love discussing science vs religion things xD


Before I get on to the implications of DNA being intelligently designed, we need to firstly look at the implications of the existence of an "intelligent designer" itself.
Suppose DNA was intelligently designed, why does it need to be "designed"? Is it because of the complexity of this biological molecule? Is it because biological things cannot manifest by themselves?
And if it was intelligently designed due to the notion of complexity, what or who designed the "intelligent designer"? Where and when does this cycle end?

Therefore, it comes down to a logical conclusion, if "intelligent designers" can exist by themselves, why can't DNA exist and manifest by themselves?



Ok, now on to the implication of DNA being "intelligently designed".

It doesn't look intelligently designed, because DNA makes errors. Yup, it makes errors continuously every time it replicate itself. Now, in early stages of life (3-4 billion years ago), this error occurred very often, that was how so many different lifeforms come to exist today.
But in higher eukaryotes (animals and mammals like us), DNA has evolved a new mechanism to lower this rate of error tremendously, that is, by incorporating a proof-reading error correction mechanism (this is sort of like spell check on a word document).

Thus allowing humans to exist without much DNA replication errors, i.e., we stay consistent, we don't suddenly get four arms or four legs on a random basis.


Now, if you look at smaller organisms (known as Prokaryotes) such as bacteria and virus, their mutation rate is VERY high because they lack a proof-reading mechanism in their DNA replication process.
HIV (Human immunodeficiency virus) is a perfect example of this. That's why it's hard to find a cure for HIV, because they don't have a proof-reading mechanism at all, they mutate at free will, allowing their protein to change shape all the time, and thus they can avoid any medicine that we invent.
Even though there are anti-viral medicine, you can only reduce the amount of viral content, you can never get rid of HIV completely from your body. Because it mutates all the time.


Anyway, my point is that, DNA existed and manifest by itself, it didn't need a designer, it took over 4 billion years for it to get to this stage. It didn't happen in a day.
So you can't expect 4 billion years worth of replicating over and over to remain simple.

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Order and complexity can come out of randomness just by the application of rules, in this case the rules are those governing chemical interactions. There is a whole branch of mathematics call Cellular Automata that came out of attempts to model biological systems, the most well known example of Cellular Automata is probably Conway's Game of Life but there are numerous other systems, this one having only four rules and there only two possible out comes a live cell or a dead one.
A javascript version of Conway's Game of life http://pmav.eu/stuff/javascript-game-of-life-v3.1.1/
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CellularAutomaton.html

There is yet another example, The Millennium Simulation done by the Max Plank Institute for AstroPhysics.
http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/galform/virgo/millennium/ where they modeled a universe.
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It's in the nature of the molecules to bond in that manner, nothing further.
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"The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. ... The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life."

-Steven Hawking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe
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WordsToLiveBy wrote:
The structure of DNA appears to be intelligently designed, what are the implications?

I get the feeling you just casually declared something unbelievable.


I'm not getting into this right now.
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theYchromosome wrote:


WordsToLiveBy wrote:
The structure of DNA appears to be intelligently designed, what are the implications?

I get the feeling you just casually declared something unbelievable.


I'm not getting into this right now.


You just did...
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Posted 7/18/13 , edited 7/18/13
yup I believe it to be intelligently designed.

but don't we already have a religious type thread
Posted 7/18/13
Well, I believe it is intelligently designed, but that's just my two cents.
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Maybe it's Intelligently Designed, but then again, maybe it isn't. The position of Intelligent Design isn't falsifiable, so it isn't all that interesting to discuss outside of watching everybody troll each other.
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This looks like some kind of delicious candy.

If it were, it would be an intelligent design - it clearly can be broken up into convenient portions for sharing or saving until later, it has multiple flavors, and can probably be played with, kind of like a piece of string.
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Posted 7/18/13 , edited 7/18/13
So I saw the helical lattice, and I am amazed at the colors. Is there a point in discussing DNA right now? Are we implicating that DNA molecules and structures is smart?
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