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I actually liked SAO.. And I'm aware that it may have been pretty close to its source material, but a few of the plot points I think, this is one of those many anime that I think should have been stretched to another season. I think things would have been a lot better that way. I still like it, but it failed to be 'top notch' in my view, largely because the pacing seemed off, and rushed more often than not.
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It might be stupid, but it might also move Toonami to prime time. I haven't seen it yet, but it can't be much worse than Dragonball Z or Yu-Gi-Oh or any other stupid anime series that is also stupid popular.
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SAO was my first anime i watched properly and made me want to watch more.

the way I see it you diehard anime critics who love to argue and start arguments without knowing are the ones that oppose it..

I admit the they ended it way to quick the SAO arc should have been 25 EPS on its own with more exploration... While Alfheim should of been 15-20

I don't see whats to hate about it overall.. Most people I see oppose it say "yeh but Kirito is op" .. Every main character is OP i haven't seen one anime were the MC beats the shit out of the final boss and wins...
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I think SAO is a wonderful anime, story and all, but at the same time, I also believe that people are entitled to their own opinions, so if they hate a show, so be it. But, the fact that people hate ON a show is not okay. Nobody forced you to watch the show, why are you complaining and hating on something NOBODY FORCED YOU TO WATCH. If you watched the show and didn't like it, that's your own problem, there is no need to go hating on a show just because you didn't enjoy it. SAO did not do anything bad like insulting a culture or making a distasteful joke about something, therefore you don't really need to hate on it. I hate the show "One Piece", I'm not going to deny it, but I don't go around saying "F*ck One Piece, One Piece is sh*t, whoever likes One Piece is gay!" because there isn't a need for it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but in the words of a great anon, "If you have nothing nice to say, then keep your mouth shut."
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ichigosr55 wrote:

SAO was a very disappointing show for me. Episodes 1 and 2 were a great start for the show, but after that, it just went down hill. Pretty much every episode after that up to episode 9 (the point where I stopped) were side stories that had nothing to do with the main plot. So obviously there was little story development but also character development. After I got up to episode 9, what did I know about this character? He is good at the game, he prefers to play alone (was his reasoning even explained or was it just used to make the main character look cool because he is doing all of this difficult stuff alone? I mean, that is a very impractical way of playing the game if you want to beat it and not die and save the countless people who are stuck in the game..

But even with that, I don't hate the show or the people who like it. I was just sad that it ended up being what it was, especially since I play MMOs all the time, so it had a theme that was very meaningful to me.


You nailed it!

I watched SAO because of the hype. After the first two episodes, i was like "hell yeah, this looks awesome!". But then it turned into a bunch of side/filler stuff with no real continuity. After introducing the MC and what I thought would be supporting cast, it just drifts aimlessly until near the end (of the first arc/season). Watching episodes 3-5 I was getting ready to see more side characters, but as it became apparant this was all (filler/not really advancing much) I started to get mad that an anime I started with high hopes for after the first two episodes went downhill fast.

Because of stubborn curiosity I watched the 2nd arc/season. Started off good as the MC is still fighting for the woman he loves and wants to rescue her. But the evil guy was just plain freaky/stupid/lame. A good show needs a good evil opponent, not this lame weirdo. Also the MC's SISTER wants to try and get with her brother? And at the end, he is more with his sister than the woman who he professed his love for? And goes off with her in the virtual world? WTF?!

SAO had hype. The start of SAO justified it. After that SAO went downhill. The second season/arc was just disappointing (MC + sister), AND lame & wierd (protagonist).

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Well I liked it and it was one of the series I watched when I was first getting into anime it was like my 6th but I wasn't blown away
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Kikusui10 wrote:

Well personally i thought it was very well executed. Why people hate on it so much i don't understand. Even though it couldn't hold up to the genius material in the light novel, the anime was still amazing(up to the 14th episode). Maybe by putting their expectations at a 100, they were disappointed to see it only reached 80.

They said the source material of Fate/stay night was better than the anime, too. I won't be tricked again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.


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I think SAO shotgunned itself in the feet a few too many times and wasted a lot of potential from an objective perspective, but I still enjoyed watching (most of) it. And even if I hadn't I wouldn't mind if someone else did. I might point and laugh sometimes, but it's in the same way that I would if I saw someone wearing a ridiculous hat; not to actually be mean.

Personally I tend to break down media like it's an old alarm clock or something and take a look at all the parts, so I can sound absurdly critical of even things that I kind of like. There are very few things, anime or otherwise, that I like enough to be blind to their faults. But I try not to inconvenience people with my tinkering (unless they like Code Geass).

>Likes SAO.
>Doesn't like Code Geass.

All I needed to know.


xCrimsonEX wrote:

You'll always have overly critical nitpickers that think arrogantly that they have a right to judge any work or medium. If lucky the sales/views of a certain work/medium will prove its worth and if the world was just shut the critics up. Arrogant people always want to feel like others want to hear their opinion, some even think they're words should be heeded, but only thing to do is just to ignore or prove them wrong.

You'll also always have overly critical people on forums that arrogantly think they have a right to judge nitpickers.


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In regards to SAO specifically, the nitpickers are the ones that annoyed me. Taking a small detail (relative to the whole story) and making it seem like it ruined the series, when at worst its just a simple overlooked or left to the viewers imagination detail. Not to mention the 'omg Asuna didn't hack the system and beat down an admin character, she's so weak of a character' idea. I wish people would drop the 'harem' aspect since if anything it'd be 'unwanted harem' (maybe Love Triangle with Sugu), though I don't even see it as that since Kirito only returns the affection/attraction to 1 of the female characters w/o even hinting at going for another. But whatever I stick by what I've said in the past and think its a good anime.

People who take a small detail and think it ruins a whole series/movie/etc. are irritating, but it's generally because they don't have the analytical skills necessary to find the underlying fault that causes them to dislike the media in question. For example, people can list countless reasons why Star Wars Episode I is bad, but all those are drops in the bucket compared to its fundamental problems of it being a bad story poorly told.

Asuna is a weak character.

An unwanted harem is still a harem. Otherwise it wouldn't be called an unwanted harem, it would be called an unwanted not-a-harem.


TheCoolAlchemist wrote:

Didn't we go through all this already with Guilty Crown?

Guilty what? I think we all forgot Guilty Crown ever even happened.


zesire wrote:

Can we all have a moment of respect for the Blind Love you had for the show when it ended.

Then like a day later you finally came back like oh wait...that was actually pretty sucky.

but that feel right after had you thinking this was the new DBZ...I will admit it...;]

Blind love? I was simultaneously creeped the hell out and laughing my ass off. Congratulations, though, A-1 Pictures. You managed to make rape funny.
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Just reminding people, eps 1-7 are side stories. The actual story starts at ep 8.
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bobland wrote:

Just reminding people, eps 1-7 are side stories. The actual story starts at ep 8.


Episode 1 is actually part of the original novel

Here's how it goes:

Episodes 1, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14 - Novel 1

Episode 2 - Side Story (Part of Progressive 1 currently, called Aria of the Starless Night)

Episode 3, 4, 7, 11, 12 - Novel 2 (So Sachi, Silica, Lizbeth, and Yui, none of which I'd call side stories)

Episode 5, 6 - Novel 8 (Which itself is a collection of side stories)

Episode 15-25 - Novels 3+4 (Fairy Dance arc)
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Posted 7/22/13
Tentacle rape! Gary Stu! Time skips! Harem! Second half sucked! Rabble rabble rabble!

Seriously though, I love the anime. My favorite of 2012 for sure. And it led me to a bunch of light novels that I've also now enjoyed.

It's hard to believe that a series with that much heart has earned so much ire. Maybe it's because it's crossing genre's that people don't like to see crossed? I don't know. I enjoyed even what could be construed as the most boring of the ALO arc episodes. The action, music, the animation quality, they were all so top notch. Is the anime perfect? Of course not. Name one that is, and I'll tell you a bunch of things I don't like about it.

People even complain about how the anime is nothing at all like the novels, which is pure insanity to me since it's pretty much scene by scene a direct adaptation. Was the omission of the underworld part of ALO kind of a bummer? Sure, but I could also understand where they were coming from in not including it. Would have gone over time for their programming block, and it would have been expensive to animate.

I dislike a lot of anime series that people adore. But I don't clog up forums spewing post after angst ridden post saying things like "GARY STU" a million freaking times. I just let their fan bases enjoy themselves. I haven't had much of a chance to enjoy SAO with fellow fans because of this drama like I usually like to do, so thanks a lot haters. Classy.
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It's hard to believe that a series with that much heart has earned so much ire.


Thank you for finally nailing down something that's been bugging me for a while. Despite all its flaws, SAO had heart, centered around what is a, frankly, beautiful relationship between Kirito and Asuna. I haven't been able to say that myself, even though I think that is the main reason I like the show so much. Thanks for putting it out there.
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Balzack wrote:
It's hard to believe that a series with that much heart has earned so much ire.


Thank you for finally nailing down something that's been bugging me for a while. Despite all its flaws, SAO had heart, centered around what is a, frankly, beautiful relationship between Kirito and Asuna. I haven't been able to say that myself, even though I think that is the main reason I like the show so much. Thanks for putting it out there.

Even the people who like SAO at least have the good grace to acknowledge that it is a show pretty much devoid of soul. And it most certainly earns top marks for having one of the worst romances in anything ever.

Evangelion "had heart", Kokoro Connect "had heart", fucking Twilight "had heart". SAO did not have anything remotely like the barest hint of a circulatory system, at least not one that science has yet discovered.
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Thrazonn wrote:


iblessall wrote:


Balzack wrote:
It's hard to believe that a series with that much heart has earned so much ire.


Thank you for finally nailing down something that's been bugging me for a while. Despite all its flaws, SAO had heart, centered around what is a, frankly, beautiful relationship between Kirito and Asuna. I haven't been able to say that myself, even though I think that is the main reason I like the show so much. Thanks for putting it out there.

Even the people who like SAO at least have the good grace to acknowledge that it is a show pretty much devoid of soul. And it most certainly earns top marks for having one of the worst romances in anything ever.

Evangelion "had heart", Kokoro Connect "had heart", fucking Twilight "had heart". SAO did not have anything remotely like the barest hint of a circulatory system, at least not one that science has yet discovered.


Your antagonistic and insulting tone aside, I respectfully disagree. And I never said it the romance was good. I said their relationship was. Thanks for the troll. Peace.
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Posted 7/22/13

Thrazonn wrote:


iblessall wrote:


Balzack wrote:
It's hard to believe that a series with that much heart has earned so much ire.


Thank you for finally nailing down something that's been bugging me for a while. Despite all its flaws, SAO had heart, centered around what is a, frankly, beautiful relationship between Kirito and Asuna. I haven't been able to say that myself, even though I think that is the main reason I like the show so much. Thanks for putting it out there.

Even the people who like SAO at least have the good grace to acknowledge that it is a show pretty much devoid of soul. And it most certainly earns top marks for having one of the worst romances in anything ever.

Evangelion "had heart", Kokoro Connect "had heart", fucking Twilight "had heart". SAO did not have anything remotely like the barest hint of a circulatory system, at least not one that science has yet discovered.


DAMN! I busted on SAO above, but dude, even I didn't pile on hate like what I bolded above

Note: Twilight and its fans are a plague on humanity
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I see what you mean. I simply stated that we should respect the dead and not make fun of those who have passed. It got too many negative results and the top comments were comments against it. SAO, in my opinion, failed in the end. It had the chance to do well.
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