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Fanservice. It has been presenting itself in ever larger quantities in the past decade, and while it has always been there is some form or fashion, it has become such a common trope in anime that many people claim that there should be a genre devoted to it known as the ecchi genre.

But is fanservice a good or a bad thing? Well, in order to tell if it is good or bad, we need to define it. Fanservice is, well, servicing the fans. It means showing them what they want. Because of this fanservice can be a pretty hard thing to just shrug off as one of anime's many annoying cliche's. Fanservice toward men is most often seen in panty shots and boob jiggles, while female fanservice is most commonly seen in shirtless, semi-buff men standing around looking bored (Yes, that was a joke). But these are not the only kinds of fanservice. There is also military fanservice. Think about shows like Gunslinger Girl, where the guns and bullets are so detailed that actual gun owners actually watch those kinds of shows to see which kind of gun they want to try out next at the gun range. And Mecha fanservice, in which political intrigue and character development are thrown out the window and the writers say "Fuck you, we want to watch giant robots fucking everyone's shit up".

Are any of these kinds of fanservice inherently bad? I don't really think so, but I find it hard to watch shows like Free! and Black Butler which are so chock full of female fanservice that I start questioning my own manhood, and I get the feeling that a lot of girls feel the same way about ecchi shows with male fanservice. And I have also met gay people who dislike Yaoi because it is so targeted at the female audience that it stops actually being for gay people, and I'm sure that there are probably lesbians who feel the same way about Yuri. Is all of this fanservice really pandering to the right fans, or is it turning off people who might have been interested in the genres if they weren't so full of titties and grossly over-muscled swimmers?

What do you guys think?
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It can be a bad thing, sometimes it's just intrusive to the story telling, or just completely unneeded. Sadly can't think of any examples off the top of my head. Most of the time, I couldn't care less if it's there. Other than when I was a kid and would have to worry about somebody walking into the room with god knows what on the tv.
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It depends on the show and what they are trying to do. If it is trying to be a serious show with a deep story then it can ruin the experience for me. However, if the show is slice of life or a high school anime then I do not find it to be a problem.
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Its really about balancing the fanservice with the actual story for me. I could care less if there's panty shots or w/e if the core story is still progressing. There's some things that are considered fanservice that to me just add realism to the story. For instance I've seen several people whine about the nudity in anime/manga as being fanservice when fact is if you've got a female character getting slashed at (ie like Freezing) then its reasonable to assume there will be something shown, or if you have guys playing basketball or training for it for hours of course they're going to take their shirts off (ie like Kuroko's Basketball). I think people just need to learn to focus on the story and just not pay attention to the fanservice you don't like. People really just need to stop being overly critical with every anime that comes out these days.
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It can be bad when the anime focuses on fanservice and not the actual story. It's ok and actually enjoyable in moderation, however. Depends on how often the anime uses fanservice.
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Pretty sure there's already a thread for this.
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Personally I think fanservice is the anime and manga industry's equivalent of sliced bread and bacon. Greatest thing ever invented and it goes with almost any show.

For me, you can NEVER have too much fanservice. You CAN, however, have too little. My God, I'm starting to sound like a fanservice connoisseur... Then again, I'm really open-minded with what goes on in anime and manga, and I find it hard to hate fanservice in excess. I can separate it from the story, and there's no longer the problem of it "ruining the story." Besides, fanservice is a fairly reasonable thing in shows like, hmmm, say, Ikkitousen, or any other fighting anime or manga with busty babes. Clothes aren't armor; when confronted from a sword, no amount of Gucci or Prada is going to protect your boobs. And think athletic shows while you're at it, like Softenni or FREE.

Sure you could argue that it needs to be left out. But it subtracts nothing from the value of the show or manga, unless you let it. And also, with extremely boring shows that have seemingly no good premise to sell on, fanservice is a good, albeit dirty, alternative to moving out sales and BD's with said shows.
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I love gore fanservice anime like my favorite character been skinned alive.
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I have nothing against it as long as it positively effects the anime experience. However, if an anime contains no fanservice, it's practically guaranteed to be extraordinary. That doesn't mean that removing fanservice from a bad anime would make it good, just that really great ones don't need the crutch.

I'd be very hard pressed to name an anime that contains no fanservice and is also terrible (or even average).

Although I suppose it'd also depend on your definition of fanservice.
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I really dislike fan-service, always have done, always will do. I try to get people into anime, but they have the same reason for not being able to sit through the seriously good shows I watch (especially Hellsing) because of fan service. Whether it's small or large, it really bothers fans like me and newcomers. I hate not being able to recommend an amazing show because it has unnecessary fan-service. I personally wish that fan service would be saved exclusively for sub-genres like Harems or Ecchi. It's like I say to others, sometimes the industry does not help itself at gaining popularity over here. I see why people want it, but maybe popular shows should have their own ecchi show so the fans can still be serviced without getting in the way of the main series.
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i think one example of fanservice getting in the way of story is sora no otoshimono.
i really like the story and all the moment that are emotional in it. but i have to wait for the main character to stop using alien tech to sneak in the locker room and other shit to the story to actually happen.
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Fan service is those moments when they'll show you a half second of a characters A$$ or miniskirt, right????

It's definitely something that screws up animes that doesn't have a warning for it, like being labeled in the ecchi or eroge genre for example. Luckily i've found a good amount without it on Crunchyroll. Or maybe it isn't lucky, I've noticed that Crunchyroll isn't fond of it.
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Morputh wrote:

I really dislike fan-service, always have done, always will do. I try to get people into anime, but they have the same reason for not being able to sit through the seriously good shows I watch (especially Hellsing) because of fan service. Whether it's small or large, it really bothers fans like me and newcomers. I hate not being able to recommend an amazing show because it has unnecessary fan-service. I personally wish that fan service would be saved exclusively for sub-genres like Harems or Ecchi. It's like I say to others, sometimes the industry does not help itself at gaining popularity over here. I see why people want it, but maybe popular shows should have their own ecchi show so the fans can still be serviced without getting in the way of the main series.


Like if it content on random sub-genre no one will complain what they have just watched, no mater how the anime changed through out the episodes.
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Zachman wrote:
Besides, fanservice is a fairly reasonable thing in shows like, hmmm, say, Ikkitousen, or any other fighting anime or manga with busty babes. Clothes aren't armor; when confronted from a sword, no amount of Gucci or Prada is going to protect your boobs.

That kind of fanservice actually bothers me more than most: swords magically only cutting clothes and not the body beneath rattles my suspension of disbelief so, so much, and that's not even going into the question of why they don't wear armor.
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