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Is it possible to wear off evil from Humanity?
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This reminds me of the argument, "if someone borrows without asking, is it considered stealing?"

We wouldn't know what is considered "good" without "evil" just like in the above, we wouldn't consider borrowing without asking to be any different from borrowing in the first place if it weren't for people who steal.

The news will always be playing stories like those cause they attract audiences. It's rare but the news channels also do stories on "good" things too but usually if its an extremity cause its exciting. I hardly ever watch the news anymore other than checking online every now and then for top stories and events. Even then you really have to take everything with a grain of salt and make your own judgments.
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Its great to be a sensitive person,but you have to be skillful with your heart. Sometimes open your heart to beauty and love, but if you are like this all the time life will be unbearable. You will witness more and more terrible things happening to those you love and to yourself. You will lose your desire to continue living unless you can develop skill in using your sensitivity.
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"wear off evil from humanity?" eh? I don't understand. Who's wearing evil and did they receive their attire from humanity?

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There's no light without darkness and vice versa.
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If I was Thane had my position on my throne in Whiterun Then I would rain punishment on the wicked. BUT If you committed a crime that was worthy of death then I wouldn't kill you I'd lock you in a dungeon to prevent another crime. what do I mean? Well The next time someone wanted to commit a crime like rape they would go to a church and have there name and things put into our system and allowed the ability to "have there way" with a Criminal. but then they would have to attend some sort of mental meeting to help them out psychologically. If this man was apprehended at a later date for rapping someone then he would be locked away and the same punishment would be givin to him

^~^ I feel like there is a possibility for me letting them do it once and they want to do it again. but I think it would atleast cut it down 50% since it's better than letting these people build up these urges and going wild on the streets.
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I think everyone gets raped in prison already.
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GayAsianBoy wrote:

No.

What I've noticed is that most herbivorous animals (not all) tend to be gentle in nature, like sheep, cows, rabbits etc.
While carnivorous and omnivorous animals (humans) are fierce in nature.

This is due to the fact that such traits (murderous intent, greed, strong sexual essence) were needed for survival and continuation of species in the wild.
I'm not saying eating meat is responsible for violent nature in humans, what I'm saying is that to hunt down meat, humans needed murderous instincts.

These primitive instincts obviously are still present in today's humans, in some people, they are stronger than others.

In the future, it is possible that human males could start to appear less and less violent because of a reduced level of testosterone and continous social conditioning of moral values; but I don't think it will be gone completely.


"What I've noticed is that most herbivorous animals (not all) tend to be gentle in nature, like sheep, cows, rabbits etc.
While carnivorous and omnivorous animals (humans) are fierce in nature."

yes because house cats are super fierce

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In the minds of evil, what they're doing is good.
So, no.
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I think it's possible, but highly unlikely. In some way, I actually agree with what Pain said in Naruto Shippuden. Teach the world peace through pain and despair.

Now I'm not saying go out and kill a bunch of people, but it seems like the people of today's society only learn their lesson through trials and tribulation, which it shouldn't be, but it is.

It's sad I know.
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Rowan93 wrote:





By human deaths, hippopotami are the most dangerous land animals, and they're mostly herbivorous. Bulls are aggresive enough that we have several sports based on trying not to let one of them kill you.


That's why I said most herbivores, not all, are peaceful in nature.
And the examples you gave do not represent the nature of herbivores. Herbivores don't attack for survival, they attack if they feel threatened, this is pretty much a defensive mechanism that exists in all organisms--even plants have defense mechanisms like poison ivy for example, if you touch them, you will be affected.

The point is, herbivores don't attack unless they feel threatened by something, like rhinoceros, they will charge at anything unfamiliar because they are threatened by poachers.

http://animal.discovery.com/mammals/rhinos-charge.htm



I don't think this tendency you're talking about exists at all, and if anything herbivores are more violent: Do you have any non-anecdotal evidence to support your theory that herbivores tend to be peaceful?


Yes. This scientific paper:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.13.6574&rep=rep1&type=pdf


You don't have to read through all of it, basically in the paper they were simulating an ecosystem and simulating the behaviour of herbivores vs. carnivores.

This is the point you should focus on:

"1. Herbivore doesn't move until starvation or it is eaten by carnivore.
2. Then, herbivore starts walking towards plants and eats them
3. Then, herbivore runs away when carnivore in eye sight
4. When satiation, herbivore doesn't move until carnivore comes in eye sight or its energy decreases under some level. If carnivore comes in eye sight, herbivore runs away. Herbivore starts eating plants again when its energy decreases."
(Takashina et al.)

This youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRZocdRNxSw

"Some carnivores, such as lions, stalk and kill their prey"




So no, my points weren't anecdotal, every scientists and animal documentaries pretty much support my statements.



You know how much humans tend to hate murderers? We didn't decide on that by a rational process, that's an evolved trait.

You know how guilty you would feel if someone made you kill a guy? Evolved trait. Same goes for theft. Humans are social animals, and couldn't survive on our own in the wild, we had to co-operate with a whole bunch of people, and make sure not to piss them off by murdering their friends or whatever.



I'll have to disagree with that statement.

Guiltiness is not an evolved trait, it is a trait developed by social conditioning. This trait stems from humans' high intelligence. In other words, intelligence and the capacity to empathise are the evolved traits, not guiltiness itself.

You feel guilty when you kill a human because that was what was conditioned into you from a young age by society and social norms.

Thought experiment: If a person was raised by wolves in the jungle until adulthood and he killed humans, would he feel guilty?



And if you think that humans evolved "morals" by nature, you obviously haven't read up on this unethical human experiment: "Stanford prison experiment".

Basically in that experiment, normal people were placed into a prison setting and taken the roles of prisoners and wardens, they didn't expect this to happen but the wardens became violent toward the prisoners FOR REAL.

Read more here if you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
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Woah woah, we don't need to have a philosophy debate over a CR forum, but in my personal opinion I agree with one of the comments. If there is good there will always be evil. Just as it says in many religious texts, 'if there is light there will be darkness". Same goes with the example of human nature, 'If there is a predator, there will be a prey.'

more nerd info, it's not just all about things on Earth, it involves everything in the universe. Everything must have a balance, or it will be unstable. i.e. a compound of Barium Bromide must bond with two other bromide ions to balance the ionic bond.
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There aren't many living and sentient creatures that aren't opportunists. Culture and Society then defines what methods of opportunism are considered taboo; but other than that, I don't agree with the notion of "evil" or "good". All actions have the capability of negative and positive consequence, as well as individual perception of what constitutes negative and positive consequence.

But what do I know? I'm just human.

*kicks The_Protector, steals food and runs away.*
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No, that's unrealistic optimism. Sure it would be great if that could happen in some way but most of us knows better. I'm so lucky to not grow up in constant war like other countries are so I can look at it in perspectives. I wonder what I would think if I was abused by war every minute. Definetly not these thoughts of love and courage and such. Yeah...
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I've always wished that there was a place of no hate and no violence where everyone could be just who they are without fear of persecution... Seems like that's just a fantasy though.
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Nope.
Unless you lock yourself inside a small box
You won't have to worry about those things anymore o3o
Other than that just shut up and deal with it.
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