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Who Win in a all out fight Naruto or ichigo
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Posted 8/4/13
tie
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Posted 8/4/13
they have a draw and then a titan eats them
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Posted 8/5/13
Anyone wants to see a manga that will reach DB level..go read Toriko's latest chapters..

But if it is a fight between Naruto and Ichigo, I would say Naruto..
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Okay in bleach's manga the head captain just told ichigos friends that his spiritual pressure will probably so intense now that he has trained with squad zero that he may not be able to return to the world of living because his pressure could wipe out all the other humans spirits. Im just go with Ichigo just saying XD
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Both are not even the main focus of their own manga's. However I would say Ichigo but barley.
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Posted 8/6/13
Ichigo would win easily
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Ichigo wins for me!
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Posted 8/6/13
Luffy. Because Naruto and Ichigo are lame.
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In terms of speed, it's like I tell you, the Flash step is faster then Naruto simply running to his destination, also a flash step is a " movement which can't be perceived from the eye " ( said that in the anime someone, btw different sites different subs ) while in some cases you can still see Naruto running. When people compared Naruto to Yandaime's speed, they weren't really talking about speed, it was about reaction time, when the Raikage was like what, 1 mm from punching Naruto in the face, then Naruto evaded that hit, it was really about reflexes.

Ha, I just used that against my own disadvantage, reflexes are sometimes all that it takes to change the tide of a battle, tiring out your enemy. But I just wanted to remind you, Ichigo in his current state can fight on par with Naruto Bijuu mode, but if Naruto is loosing, he loses, unlike Ichigo who has a final power up ( Hollow mode ). And yes, after Ichigo talking with Zangetsu, and Zangetsu even explaining him how his Hollow saved him, I'm sure they can cooperate now.

Just a final thing, there was no proof that Ichigo's strength ( version prior to FGT ) was because of his riatsu. Aizen simply couldn't sense it since he was a lower being. Plus you can't compare a Bijuu bomb to Mugetsu like that, it's like comparing a Railgun shot to an explosion, the Railgun will go through anything easily, and the second Aizen realized Ichigo did Mugetsu, he was already cut in half. Too fast.
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Actually, that isn't true this go around with Ichigo. Remember, prier to fighting Aizen, Ichigo turned all his reiatsu into pure strength. He couldn't use kido at that time or even flash step. Hi reiatsu was completely gone in a manner of speaking because he channeled all of it into pure physical strength and enhancement to his body so he basically broke out of the black hole by brute force. Once again, you can't compare the two universes exactly, but ninjutsu is is basically kido. Two different names for to different universes but basically the same think with hand gestures and saying your chant. That is why I guessed Ichigo would just barely win, because he didn't need to use spirit pressure, which,like chakra, comes in a limited amount even if you have abnormal amounts like Ichigo and naruto. But yeah, in the showdown, ichigo didn't use spiritual pressure, just brute force because of turning his spiritual pressure into physical enhancement in every way. His speed, strength, agility; none of which was because of spiritual pressure or him using a kido. That is why he had to regain his spiritual energy in the next ark because he had used all energy to turn physically strong and used whatever tiny bit of energy to do his last stage of getsuga tensho
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Actually, that isn't true this go around with Ichigo. Remember, prier to fighting Aizen, Ichigo turned all his reiatsu into pure strength. He couldn't use kido at that time or even flash step. Hi reiatsu was completely gone in a manner of speaking because he channeled all of it into pure physical strength and enhancement to his body so he basically broke out of the black hole by brute force. Once again, you can't compare the two universes exactly, but ninjutsu is is basically kido. Two different names for to different universes but basically the same think with hand gestures and saying your chant. That is why I guessed Ichigo would just barely win, because he didn't need to use spirit pressure, which,like chakra, comes in a limited amount even if you have abnormal amounts like Ichigo and naruto. But yeah, in the showdown, ichigo didn't use spiritual pressure, just brute force because of turning his spiritual pressure into physical enhancement in every way. His speed, strength, agility; none of which was because of spiritual pressure or him using a kido. That is why he had to regain his spiritual energy in the next ark because he had used all energy to turn physically strong and used whatever tiny bit of energy to do his last stage of getsuga tensho. However, I think he could beat naruto without going into final mode, therefore just sticking with strength and not having to run out because he doesn't have the reiatsu anymore and at the time he fought Aizen, he wasn't in spirt form because a spirit form could not become physically strong like a real body can. Naruto would run out of chakra eventually, even with nine tails. Again, I'm not saying 1 of them would win every time, but Ichigo would win by a little a few times.
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Actually, that isn't true this go around with Ichigo. Remember, prier to fighting Aizen, Ichigo turned all his reiatsu into pure strength. He couldn't use kido at that time or even flash step. Hi reiatsu was completely gone in a manner of speaking because he channeled all of it into pure physical strength and enhancement to his body so he basically broke out of the black hole by brute force. Once again, you can't compare the two universes exactly, but ninjutsu is is basically kido. Two different names for to different universes but basically the same think with hand gestures and saying your chant. That is why I guessed Ichigo would just barely win, because he didn't need to use spirit pressure, which,like chakra, comes in a limited amount even if you have abnormal amounts like Ichigo and naruto. But yeah, in the showdown, ichigo didn't use spiritual pressure, just brute force because of turning his spiritual pressure into physical enhancement in every way. His speed, strength, agility; none of which was because of spiritual pressure or him using a kido. That is why he had to regain his spiritual energy in the next ark because he had used all energy to turn physically strong and used whatever tiny bit of energy to do his last stage of getsuga tensho. However, I think he could beat naruto without going into final mode, therefore just sticking with strength and not having to run out because he doesn't have the reiatsu anymore and at the time he fought Aizen, he wasn't in spirt form because a spirit form could not become physically strong like a real body can. Naruto would run out of chakra eventually, even with nine tails. Again, I'm not saying 1 of them would win every time, but Ichigo would win by a little a few times.


But he didn't convert his reiatsu into physical strength. Aizen thought he did because he couldn't sense his reiatsu, but watch the part of the episode where Ichigo uses the Final Getsuga Tenshou again. Aizen realizes that he couldn't sense Ichigo's Riatsu, not because it was gone, but because like him, beings weaker than him can only feel his Reiatsu when he consciously lowered it. Ichigo's Reiatsu is completely intact, it was just beyond Aizen's ability to sense it.

In his own words, "Just as two-dimensional beings can never interact with three-dimensional beings, no Soul Reaper or Human could detect my spiritual pressure unless I deliberately brought down my powers to their level of awareness."
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In terms of speed, it's like I tell you, the Flash step is faster then Naruto simply running to his destination, also a flash step is a " movement which can't be perceived from the eye " ( said that in the anime someone, btw different sites different subs ) while in some cases you can still see Naruto running. When people compared Naruto to Yandaime's speed, they weren't really talking about speed, it was about reaction time, when the Raikage was like what, 1 mm from punching Naruto in the face, then Naruto evaded that hit, it was really about reflexes.

Ha, I just used that against my own disadvantage, reflexes are sometimes all that it takes to change the tide of a battle, tiring out your enemy. But I just wanted to remind you, Ichigo in his current state can fight on par with Naruto Bijuu mode, but if Naruto is loosing, he loses, unlike Ichigo who has a final power up ( Hollow mode ). And yes, after Ichigo talking with Zangetsu, and Zangetsu even explaining him how his Hollow saved him, I'm sure they can cooperate now.

Just a final thing, there was no proof that Ichigo's strength ( version prior to FGT ) was because of his riatsu. Aizen simply couldn't sense it since he was a lower being. Plus you can't compare a Bijuu bomb to Mugetsu like that, it's like comparing a Railgun shot to an explosion, the Railgun will go through anything easily, and the second Aizen realized Ichigo did Mugetsu, he was already cut in half. Too fast.


but the flash step can be perceived by the eye. The whole point of Ichigo's battle on that bridge with byakuya was that Ichigo could now clearly see his flash step movement. Also the reflex thing was Sage Mode. Naruto specifically said Kyubi chakra mode is faster, but his reaction time is better in Sage Mode.

The Biju Dama is a big solid mass of chakra, it explodes like a bomb because it's not a beam attack. That's like saying the Rasengan(which is a technique the fourth developed based on the Bijuu Dama) can't be slammed into a Chidori, because the chidori is made for continuous cutting while the Rasengan is meant for a single, forceful hit, and match it. Which we know it can. Also it happened like that because Ichigo was so much faster than Aizen. It had nothing to do with the technique itself being fast. Someone with equal speed to Ichigo could very easily dodge it since it is a slash, which all you have to do to avoid is move to the side.
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What I think most people are forgetting is that they know nothing about each other. All that they know about their own universes is changed and different. Naruto, unlike Ichigo, can use his shadow clones to get a grasp of Ichigo's abilities before Ichigo can know Naruto's. So, I think Naruto would most likely win.
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Eh you're wrong about the Rasengan, it isn't a single forceful hit, it's rather continuous wind blows rotating on you. It starts rotating violently when it touches you, that's why there are swirly marks on your stomach left after being hit by a Rasengan. Also, I think you're right on the Mugetsu part, being not too hard to skip if you don't let your guard down, BUT, it is a last resort attack anyway, so after a long battle, while both Naruto and Ichigo are both down and barely keep it, that's when Mugetsu comes. Also, Naruto's amazing reflexes in Sage Mode is due to a jutsu he did ( go see him vs Edo Raikage ), it's not natural on its own.
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